Massive Network of underground tunnels in American Southwest

originally posted by: Blue Shift

originally posted by: SeaWorthy
I am pretty sure it has to do with the geography, the locations and weather in the area, the amount of groundwater and any geothermal actions.

Only down so far. If you keep going down, it's going to get hotter because the core is molten.
science.howstuffworks.com...

Yeah even some people end up down there I hear?
but I don't know how deep they would make tunnels to last for transportation and living. I know there are tunnels under water even some ancient ones.
Like this mine pretty neat! 2 min video.

Interesting stories... the other day I noticed these features or anomalies or artifacts or whatever on bottom of ocean of course of baja.

Idk what they are but they match the topic

They never said they were black ops, etc, just like no Spook I ever meet including the two on my street ever admit being in the “family” but I am not without resources and connections, and friends in the know. I think they actually said they had a unique set of skills that had been developed over the years and military just found bull# things for them to do to keep them on the payroll Incase they were needed. I think both actually had engineering degrees, but looked like professional wrestlers and were strange birds to say the least. One was professional card hustler.

I made the first guy actually bring in his buddy that worked with him because it sounded so bizarre. They didn’t brag about #, and I can’t go into details but they were not lying, and military never said they were they just said drop it and we did

to: ignorant_ape

Plus for this I needed to see and confirm their prior military service, which was done with former ids, cards, social security earnings reports and the US Army itself.

reply to: Jackfish28

originally posted by: Flyingclaydisk
Whenever I see one of these stories I am instantly dubious. One has to ask themselves why anyone would ever do this??

Underground bunkers are one thing, but underground cities and hundreds/thousands of miles of tunnels makes no sense. First of all, just the sheer cost alone to build something like this is not even measurable. Secondly, the sheer number of people and material it would require to construct it, and support it, would be such that it would be an impossible secret to keep. Too many people would know. And lastly, who would it benefit? There's only so many elites and politicians. If the idea was to preserve the human race from some catastrophic event like a nuclear Armageddon, then what good is it if no one knows it's there, or where to go? You certainly won't be able to tell the masses after such an event, so unless they know about it beforehand what good does it serve?

If you went underground, there will probably be underground malls, etc.

originally posted by: LABTECH767
a reply to: Britguy

That is true and correct, however did you know that if properly built underground structures can be far more resilient than above ground structures.

Remember seismic event's shake object's and surface built structures are often built on the shallow foundations or else for larger building's down to the bed rock - but that bedrock may itself be a floating layer of rock above a layer of alluvial deposit but as long as it is stable enough?.

So as the ground shakes up and down and side to side these structures not only shake but can be shifted on there foundation's and by comparison a subterranean structure which is properly built and with earth quakes in mind would simply shake, the artificial cavern's could suffer cracks and if there is a weakness or fault running through them then they can collapse BUT if they are built with this in mind these areas would be reinforced in such a way as to minimise such collapse.

Then you have to factor in why these were built, what they were built for and whom is using them.

There are umpteen claim's about break away civilization, US MIC running amok and doing what it want's, claim's of elite getaways to survive a coming apocalypse perhaps of there own making if they fail in there attempt to kill off the human population through other control method's and even of non human entity's using these and I remember reading a claim that when one of the old cold war control centres was being built in the 1950's the contractors made use of PRE-EXISTING artificial tunnel's they found inside the mountain were they were building the site in what at first they had believed to be natural cavern's (but which may have been decayed ancient artificial cavern's as these more preserved tunnel's were supposedly once linked to them and were relinked once they expanded them), these tunnel's were supposedly ancient and build by someone else so not mine tunnel's but that is of course from a book so perhaps there is no evidence to back that urban legend part up.

But leaving the strange, perhaps implausible behind.

Yes they would build these for cold war reason's and just because the cold war ended did not mean that the apparatus set up to combat the soviets went away, on the contrary it remained and if anything since it was compartmentalized government it got stronger in particular as it was both a controlling element in the US MIC and also because it was a controlling element in the shadow government set up to combat the spread of socialism during the cold war and that grew beyond the control of any democratic government - and which still exists and if anything is even more powerful today.

I don't feel like you've watched the appropriate deep bunker documentaries to understand how underground construction and long term bunker fortification actually needs to occur, to not be considered completely lethal to humans.

Very pie in the sky assumptions here.

There's a reason that they will pay to fly an expert from across the globe, to design just one piece of something like that.

It's dangerous as F*** and there's only a handful of individuals that fully grasp the necessity and design requirements for deep underground anything, in regards to having it be for what can be both deemed structurally SAFE and acceptable for military and/or secret usage.