Bryan Bender was the commentator on the History Channel’s, "Unidentified: Inside America’s UFO Investigation." He's currently the defense editor
for POLITICO and according to Wikipedia, he was "previously a D.C. based reporter for the Boston Globe and Jane’s Defence Weekly, he covered U.S.
military operations in the Middle East, Asia, Latin America, and the Balkans. He also writes about terrorism, the international arms trade, and
government secrecy." LINK
He has also wrote some important stories concerning UFOs:
He published an article revealing the Pentagon’s secretive UFO program, the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP), the
same day as the New York Times. For that story, the Department of Defense (DoD) confirmed to him AATIP did exist and that a career intelligence
officer, Luis Elizondo, ran it. Bender also broke the news regrind the Navy creating new UFO reporting guidelines and another story revealing that US
Senators were briefed on UFOs.
Last Tuesday, Open Minds did an interview with Bender and posted it on YouTube on Wednesday, July 10. He was asked many questions by Alejandro Rojas
and gave some interesting answers in the hour and a half interview. I posted the YouTube clip at the end of this thread. I know there are better
things to do, than listen to a hour and a half interview on a Sunday afternoon, so below are a few highlights:
"...you are interviewing a couple of Congressmen and someone who’s on the like, space committee that advises Trump, that he invoked when
he started his presidency. And you ask them about UFOs. Why were you, I guess, prompted to do that?"
"Well, this was back in 2018...And this was an event where we had a couple of members of Congress who have oversight of NASA, oversight of
the space program and I thought it was a relevant question...And here I had sort of a captive audience. Two members of Congress who have oversight of
the military oversight of space programs...And, you know, I think the fact that they did not dodge the question
…the fact that this was
Congressman Bera, a Democrat from California, Congressman Hultgen, a Republican. They both seem to think that this was a legitimate issue to look
into. If you had reports of military personnel who were seeing things in the night sky that they couldn’t explain, that were exhibiting
characteristics that they hadn’t seen before, maybe we should look into this more deeply."
"But as far as covering AATIP, in particular, the Pentagon program, what can you share about how you first came across that it existed?"
"Well, this was probably middle of 2017, I guess, when I got a tip from a source in the Pentagon that there had been an effort, I don’t
know if it was referred to as a program or an office, but that the Pentagon had been researching some of these unexplained sightings and that it had
been funded by Congress...But what really convinced me quite frankly was not the To The Stars Academy’s folks. I mean, obviously, they were helpful.
They had an interest in getting this story out. They had a relationship with Mr. Elizondo. But going to the Hill, and going to congressional
sources. And, you know, figuring out that it was Harry Reid who was behind this earmark, as it was called. This $25 million or so that was set aside
for this program.
Reaching some of the congressional staff who had worked on that with him. Not everybody, in fact, most people were not, at the
time, willing to go public about it, but they were willing to talk about it. At least convince me that there really was something to this.
"I also came to believe that it was one program, but probably just one of a number in the government.
I mean, this was one where you had people
involved with it willing to talk about it publicly. The “To The stars Academy” people. Particularly Lue Elizondo. Clearly, Harry Reid was willing
to talk about it publicly. But you know, what I’m thinking in my mind is, there’s no way, if there’s all these reports and all these
potential sightings over the course of many years, that AATIP was the only thing the Pentagon was doing.
I mean, in some ways, it’s malpractice,
if that’s the only thing they were doing, I just think it’s the only thing in recent years that we know about, because of the way it sort of came
together. The way there, you know, there were parties involved that really did think that this should be part of a larger public conversation. And,
you know, I think Mr. Elizondo, probably very shrewdly in some ways, plotted while he was still in the Pentagon, how he was going to get out of the
government and talk about this. And talk about it in a way that he wouldn’t be violating his security clearance. So this was kind of a perfect
I think, where this program got out into the public domain, sparked a huge conversation that, you know, quite frankly, is healthy, in my
view. But what I wonder is, what else is there in the military and intelligence agencies, that is still going on in terms of research that we just
don’t know about?
"So you have a lot of sources and you were able to verify through several sources, it seems, that the program existed. Did you get a sense,
talking to any of those sources, then about these potential other programs?"
"Some of the work that AATIP did was was unclassified. Some of the studies were…at least some of the basic sort of details of what they
were looking into, what they were researching...I think whatever the government is doing in other agencies, it’s very decentralized.
it’s very siloed, if you will. In other words, if the CIA has a program that’s looking into this stuff, or the Air Force does, or the Defense
Intelligence Agency, or you name it…I’ve come to believe over all these years of covering the Pentagon, that unless you need to know this
stuff, unless you are actively brought into a program, you don’t know anything about it.
And so, I think even people that have done some work on
this issue in the government, either research or collecting data on some of these unexplained sightings, I don’t think a lot of them are necessarily
aware of everything else the rest of the organization is doing.
"If there was a branch of the service, or an agency that didn’t want to give up their secrets, and they didn’t want the others to know,
would it be difficult for them, then to hide it and not share it to…let’s say, the Congress, if they were asking?
A: "I’m under no illusion that there are parts of the government that might have some relevant information that doesn’t wanna cough it
up and doesn’t wanna share it.
And there’s a lot of reasons why they wouldn’t necessarily want to share it. I mean, one could just simply be
protecting their turf, which is, you know, is a constant game battle that goes on in the government…where agencies and components within agencies
are always jockeying for position and authority and control and power.
"...did you ever question any of the statements made by To The Stars or Luis Elizondo? Were you like, “Hey, that doesn’t sound, you
know, to jive up to what I had discovered.”
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