Trump tells Dem congresswomen: Go back where you came from!

originally posted by: strongfp
a reply to: Arnie123

She's a citizen. Why stop at her, why not just tell everyone who doesn't agree with the current admin to 'go back' to where they come from. Here's an idea, start putting up posters of those who don't 'look american' with physical features and traits, and then label them with a symbol as well.

Who said anything about the way they look?
Why does everything have to be about race? I honestly believe that those who jump to the race card so quickly and often are actually closet racist.
It is always at the forefront of their mind and they project it onto others.
Quad

a reply to: Ironclad1964

She's the most attacked and blown out of proportion Democrat 'crazy' so far. And 90% of stuff her haters have on her is completely BS or as I said, taken way out of context and dragged through the mud.

a reply to: Wayfarer

Hmmm, and Omar's and Tlaib's folk push them off of buildings. At least, last I checked that's how Islam deals with it. I guess they're more merciful in Iran. There, they just force you either become a woman or die.

But for right now at least ... they're all about the gays because in the US it gets them closer to the power they need in order to get to what they want. Gays better be careful it isn't the power to push them off the buildings while they march the deplorables off to the concentration camps.

originally posted by: Wayfarer
To make his point by way of racial ancestry is tried and true racism.

Oh well. As I said earlier, don't be shocked when many, many Americans read something like that and their response is "so?" That's not a sign of racism being acceptable in the US, it's a sign that the accusation of racism in the US has been water down and liberalized to the degree that it simply no longer matters. It isn't even an insult or offensive anymore to be called a racist.

originally posted by: Involutionist
a reply to: Middleoftheroad

I’m here to correct the misleading news trying to paint what he said as racist.

God damn...haven't been on here in ages and I see ATS is still attracting scholars to its site.

Please do explain how Trump's tweet was NOT racist.

This should be good...

Don't be shy.

Already have on page 1. Feel free to read the thread and get informed. I know that’s a lot to ask from the low info posters of ATS.

originally posted by: strongfp
a reply to: Ironclad1964

She's the most attacked and blown out of proportion Democrat 'crazy' so far. And 90% of stuff her haters have on her is completely BS or as I said, taken way out of context and dragged through the mud.

Hmmmm, you sure you're not talking about Trump? Just look at this thread as an example.
There was nothing wrong with what he said until it was taken out of context.

originally posted by: burdman30ott6
a reply to: Wayfarer

The further a country delves into socialism, the more failed it becomes. worldpopulationreview.com...
We can split hairs over "tendencies" if you wish, but when you get down to brass tacks, the style of economy and system the leading Dems are calling for the US to adopt is a recipe for outright self destruction and failure.
There is not a single nation on that list that can top the US in terms of freedom, economy, or opportunity.

Listen, you've got a lot of opinions on this and I genuinely enjoy diving into this with you, but it feels like we're getting off on a tangent from the OP, specifically as it relates to the Dem Congresswomen Trump called out.

Regardless of said ladies positions or platform, being asked to leave and go fix the countries of their ancestors before coming back here to fix (as they see it) problems in the US is the same thing as saying , 'your people made problems that haven't been fixed, so just leave and don't come back till their fixed', even though the ladies are Americans, and we are their people. Trump is 'otherizing' them on account of their race.

a reply to: strongfp

what a moronic statement

a reply to: LeoStarchild

If you think "gods hand" is on Trump, or any politician, your favorite sports team..etc, you are delusional.

Wayfarer says:

1. There are nations with more socialist tendencies that are doing worse than the US, and there are nations with socialist tendencies doing better than the US. You can't cherry pick just the bad ones as examples of the TERRORS AND EVILS OF SOCIALISM.

Name 1...

I'll wait.

originally posted by: vonclod
a reply to: LeoStarchild

If you think "gods hand" is on Trump, or any politician, your favorite sports team..etc, you are delusional.

mmk

Im free to believe my God is working right? I am an American .. just as you are free to deny God.

originally posted by: LeoStarchild
Wayfarer says:

1. There are nations with more socialist tendencies that are doing worse than the US, and there are nations with socialist tendencies doing better than the US. You can't cherry pick just the bad ones as examples of the TERRORS AND EVILS OF SOCIALISM.

Name 1...

I'll wait.

Denmark, or Finland is also nice this time of year.

originally posted by: Wayfarer

originally posted by: LeoStarchild
Wayfarer says:

1. There are nations with more socialist tendencies that are doing worse than the US, and there are nations with socialist tendencies doing better than the US. You can't cherry pick just the bad ones as examples of the TERRORS AND EVILS OF SOCIALISM.

Name 1...

I'll wait.

Denmark, or Finland is also nice this time of year.

We subsidize their defense.. Any country would be thriving if they didn't have to pay their own way. Example - Welfare Queens. try again.

originally posted by: burdman30ott6

originally posted by: Wayfarer
To make his point by way of racial ancestry is tried and true racism.

Oh well. As I said earlier, don't be shocked when many, many Americans read something like that and their response is "so?" That's not a sign of racism being acceptable in the US, it's a sign that the accusation of racism in the US has been water down and liberalized to the degree that it simply no longer matters. It isn't even an insult or offensive anymore to be called a racist.

This is a really refreshing summary of it actually. Perhaps 'racism fatigue' has allowed the really egregious and righteous accusations to slip through the cracks or to foment an environment where people view racism as more acceptable than it was previously....

originally posted by: LeoStarchild

originally posted by: Wayfarer

originally posted by: LeoStarchild
Wayfarer says:

1. There are nations with more socialist tendencies that are doing worse than the US, and there are nations with socialist tendencies doing better than the US. You can't cherry pick just the bad ones as examples of the TERRORS AND EVILS OF SOCIALISM.

Name 1...

I'll wait.

Denmark, or Finland is also nice this time of year.

We subsidize their defense.. Any country would be thriving if they had us to use for military protection. try again.

No, we're not talking defense, we're talking quality of life, or average lifespan, or education. Try again.

originally posted by: Wayfarer

originally posted by: burdman30ott6

originally posted by: Wayfarer
To make his point by way of racial ancestry is tried and true racism.

Oh well. As I said earlier, don't be shocked when many, many Americans read something like that and their response is "so?" That's not a sign of racism being acceptable in the US, it's a sign that the accusation of racism in the US has been water down and liberalized to the degree that it simply no longer matters. It isn't even an insult or offensive anymore to be called a racist.

This is a really refreshing summary of it actually. Perhaps 'racism fatigue' has allowed the really egregious and righteous accusations to slip through the cracks or to foment an environment where people view racism as more acceptable than it was previously....

More mental gymnastics to evade reality. The left is now victim to its own bs. You cry wolf one too many times ain't no one going to care. Now I can see how this may sound like im agreeing with you .. make no mistake..

Real America.. the majority does not care about race or sec blah blah...

originally posted by: Wayfarer

originally posted by: LeoStarchild

originally posted by: Wayfarer

originally posted by: LeoStarchild
Wayfarer says:

1. There are nations with more socialist tendencies that are doing worse than the US, and there are nations with socialist tendencies doing better than the US. You can't cherry pick just the bad ones as examples of the TERRORS AND EVILS OF SOCIALISM.

Name 1...

I'll wait.

Denmark, or Finland is also nice this time of year.

We subsidize their defense.. Any country would be thriving if they had us to use for military protection. try again.

No, we're not talking defense, we're talking quality of life, or average lifespan, or education. Try again.

would the nazis have given them those things?
well maybe some of them....
we ensured their quality of life, ability to have a lifespan and education
how quickly wwII is forgotten or the cold war for that matter

originally posted by: Wayfarer

originally posted by: LeoStarchild

originally posted by: Wayfarer

originally posted by: LeoStarchild
Wayfarer says:

1. There are nations with more socialist tendencies that are doing worse than the US, and there are nations with socialist tendencies doing better than the US. You can't cherry pick just the bad ones as examples of the TERRORS AND EVILS OF SOCIALISM.

Name 1...

I'll wait.

Denmark, or Finland is also nice this time of year.

We subsidize their defense.. Any country would be thriving if they had us to use for military protection. try again.

No, we're not talking defense, we're talking quality of life, or average lifespan, or education. Try again.

lol

psst.. if those countries didnt have us to defend them they would be 'istans by now

originally posted by: Wayfarer
Trump is 'otherizing' them on account of their race.

I don't see it as a tangential topic to the OP, though. He's calling them out not because of their race, but because they are actively trying to install here the same policies that lead to the destruction of prosperity and abdication of liberty in the countries they or their ancestors came from. That's actually a factual position for him to be taking. Before they are allowed to participate in the discussion in this country we need to know that they're able to clean up the mess their ideology creates.

originally posted by: LeoStarchild

originally posted by: Wayfarer

originally posted by: burdman30ott6

originally posted by: Wayfarer
To make his point by way of racial ancestry is tried and true racism.

Oh well. As I said earlier, don't be shocked when many, many Americans read something like that and their response is "so?" That's not a sign of racism being acceptable in the US, it's a sign that the accusation of racism in the US has been water down and liberalized to the degree that it simply no longer matters. It isn't even an insult or offensive anymore to be called a racist.

This is a really refreshing summary of it actually. Perhaps 'racism fatigue' has allowed the really egregious and righteous accusations to slip through the cracks or to foment an environment where people view racism as more acceptable than it was previously....

More mental gymnastics to evade reality. The left is now victim to its own bs. You cry wolf one too many times ain't no one going to care. Now I can see how this may sound like im agreeing with you .. make no mistake..

Real America.. the majority does not care about race or sec blah blah...

No dude I'm just not in the mood for silly grade-school debate tactics (shifting the goal).


I assume you believe in getting rid of Medicare/Medicaid, public schools, etc? I mean, you can't be a fence sitter on socialism, amirite. You're either with us (Murica) or against us (Socialism)!