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posted on Jul, 13 2019 @ 11:53 AM
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There is one thing I don't understand about Christianity!

Why do they use the cross as their symbol?

Wasn't Jesus tortured and killed on the cross?

How can anybody feel good displaying a torture tool?

Would you put a hangman's knot on your wall if jesus was hanged?
Or wear a guillotine around your neck if he would have been beheaded?

Sometime this really upsets me because there could be beauty in the teachings, but for whatever reason they choose a symbol representative for the darkest chapter of their story!

Psychologically very uplifting ideas


And what about the peace Symbol?
Who's genius idea was that?

Sincerely No Clue




posted on Jul, 13 2019 @ 12:02 PM
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a reply to: NoClue

Well, it is like KRS-ONE said "if jesus Christ was shot in the head with no respect we'd all be wearing little gold guns around our neck".


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posted on Jul, 13 2019 @ 12:03 PM
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a reply to: NoClue

If I had a guess it's to remind people of the sacrifice Jesus made for our sins.
Whats a better symbol than the representation of his ultimate demise?



posted on Jul, 13 2019 @ 12:07 PM
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Christianity is pretty sketchy and morbid.
Not only the torture tools but also the cannibalism.

The worst thing about the cross for me though is it’s basically an idol, the commandments are pretty straight forward on idols



posted on Jul, 13 2019 @ 12:13 PM
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a reply to: NoClue

The cross is a pagan symbol that was stolen borrowed by Christians. Emperor Constantine started it all. The Scriptures also forbid all forms of idolatry and Jesus did not die on a cross, despite what many believe.

The Greek word generally translated “cross” is stau·rosʹ. It basically means “an upright pale or stake.”



posted on Jul, 13 2019 @ 12:14 PM
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What's the Peace Symbol supposed to be, Saint Peter hung upside down?
Or is it the Mercedes badge with an extra line?

I often wondered what happened to the simple fish symbol, but I guess the Romans quit using that as soon as Constantine took over the christian church and transformed the Roman Empire into the Vatican (eventually).
That would help explain the torture symbol, after all, the Church (Empire) has to retain control of you body & soul.

ganjoa



posted on Jul, 13 2019 @ 12:18 PM
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originally posted by: NoClue
There is one thing I don't understand about Christianity!

Why do they use the cross as their symbol?

Wasn't Jesus tortured and killed on the cross?

How can anybody feel good displaying a torture tool?

Would you put a hangman's knot on your wall if jesus was hanged?
Or wear a guillotine around your neck if he would have been beheaded?

Sometime this really upsets me because there could be beauty in the teachings, but for whatever reason they choose a symbol representative for the darkest chapter of their story!

Psychologically very uplifting ideas


And what about the peace Symbol?
Who's genius idea was that?

Sincerely No Clue


The peace symbol is an upside down cross with the ars broken down, it’s anti Christian

As for the cross, it what Jesus died on, what God died on, ultimate defeat, counter cultural, the opposite of victory
Jesus didn’t promise a victory till He returned, it a symbol of death.
The darkest chapter of the story is the truth, dying to show how important loving others is.

Life is not supposed to be as important as love
It’s not sposed to make sense



posted on Jul, 13 2019 @ 12:20 PM
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originally posted by: IkNOwSTuff
Christianity is pretty sketchy and morbid.
Not only the torture tools but also the cannibalism.

The worst thing about the cross for me though is it’s basically an idol, the commandments are pretty straight forward on idols


No the cross is not an idol it’s a symbol.
Idols are worshiped, crosses are just worn, I don’t know any christians who worship a cross, not saying some don’t, but

What cannibalise, seriously are you saying that bread becomes Jesus, that’s infantile



posted on Jul, 13 2019 @ 12:23 PM
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originally posted by: LightSpeedDriver
a reply to: NoClue

The cross is a pagan symbol that was stolen borrowed by Christians. Emperor Constantine started it all. The Scriptures also forbid all forms of idolatry and Jesus did not die on a cross, despite what many believe.

The Greek word generally translated “cross” is stau·rosʹ. It basically means “an upright pale or stake.”


Really, prove Jesus didn’t die on a cross, Romans crucified thousands and thousands on a cross, why would it be different for Jesus
Maybe it wasn’t a cross but a stake but really, as if you really care, I don’t
Jesus died, that’s the message, cross, stake, who cares, why care



posted on Jul, 13 2019 @ 12:33 PM
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a reply to: Raggedyman

We all die why care about Jesus?
edit on 13/7/2019 by NoClue because: jesus not cross



posted on Jul, 13 2019 @ 12:38 PM
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originally posted by: Raggedyman

originally posted by: IkNOwSTuff
Christianity is pretty sketchy and morbid.
Not only the torture tools but also the cannibalism.

The worst thing about the cross for me though is it’s basically an idol, the commandments are pretty straight forward on idols


No the cross is not an idol it’s a symbol.
Idols are worshiped, crosses are just worn, I don’t know any christians who worship a cross, not saying some don’t, but

What cannibalise, seriously are you saying that bread becomes Jesus, that’s infantile


It’s an idol that Catholics regularly pray at the feet of, they also pray to Mary which I’m pretty sure is a no-no in gods book.

It’s symbolic cannibilism, that’s messed up and weird even if it is symbolic.
Christians consider it normal as they have always been around it but take a step back and look at it objectively



posted on Jul, 13 2019 @ 12:38 PM
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So many edgy anti-Christians who call themselves "atheists". Meanwhile, they won't say anything mean about Islam, and usually will do their best to defend it.



posted on Jul, 13 2019 @ 12:39 PM
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originally posted by: NoClue
a reply to: Raggedyman

We all die why care about Jesus?


You're just on the Christian side of this,
Every religion has one moon God or another propped up as a deity...

Six of one, half a dozen of the other..



posted on Jul, 13 2019 @ 12:44 PM
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originally posted by: NoClue
a reply to: Raggedyman

We all die why care about Jesus?


I am not forcing you



posted on Jul, 13 2019 @ 12:47 PM
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a reply to: Bluntone22

It feels like eternity around here!

Im really curious about your statement!

Do you care elaborating?

Honestly No Clue



posted on Jul, 13 2019 @ 12:52 PM
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Catholicism explained:
Give the church your money, tell them all your deepest secrets, do exactly what they say, aannnndddd......
They'll take care of you in the next life.
In the mean time, the heads of the churc are doing the same things they are telling their parishioners not to.
And they lined up by the MILLIONS....
edit on 13/7/2019 by Brian4real because: (no reason given)



posted on Jul, 13 2019 @ 12:55 PM
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a reply to: IkNOwSTuff

I don’t think Catholics worship the cross, best you take that up with them, not to my understanding at least

Jesus was called the Bread of life, also a door, Bridegroom, Messiah et al

You say It’s symbolic cannibalism really, really, symbolic and you are thinking its real cannibalism? Really?
Christians chew on bread and it’s called cannibalism in your head, really?
That’s exactly why Jesus did what He did, to show how shallow the religious people are. Drink His blood, wine (remember Jews didn’t eat blood, against the Mosaic covenant) Eat His flesh (again) But you think it’s real blood and real flesh? Really?

Jesus was counter cultural, against religion and petty beliefs like yours, Jesus did all He could to show that He didn’t respect religion but wanted love

You are a parody of logic and atheism
Jesus was probably more atheist in His theology than you



posted on Jul, 13 2019 @ 01:07 PM
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a reply to: Raggedyman

But they choose these specific ceremonies and symbols!

Why not choose something more uplifting, joyful?

Everybody who has made the slightest investigation into what magic is and how it works, even if it's just to know what your up against, will see that the basic ingredients are symbols, ceremonies, and people!

Do you guys even know what your actually doing when going to church?

No Clue



posted on Jul, 13 2019 @ 01:15 PM
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originally posted by: NoClue
a reply to: Bluntone22

It feels like eternity around here!

Im really curious about your statement!

Do you care elaborating?

Honestly No Clue


What part are you confused about?
I'm happy to elaborate.



posted on Jul, 13 2019 @ 01:16 PM
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originally posted by: IkNOwSTuff
Christianity is pretty sketchy and morbid.
Not only the torture tools but also the cannibalism.

The worst thing about the cross for me though is it’s basically an idol, the commandments are pretty straight forward on idols


isn't it False Idols?

And his crucifixion was a choice he made, to allow our sins to be forgiven. He sacrificed himself on cross, for us.

And I'm a reformed xtian, find the entire lot a random mix of orders and threats with a few nice words thrown in, like peace be with you.

Not to mention the hymns.. "Suffer little children to come unto me, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.."

And people wonder why some (?) priests are freaks...



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