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When China can do it you better believe they will invade.
The only saving grace for the world is that the US still holds the upper hand.
China can't do much militarily
...or economically against the US because it will hurt them worse.
All you need to do is look at all the broken promises made to HK.
originally posted by: GD
a reply to: IkNOwSTuff
We "worse" Americans have liberated the following nations from tyrannical rule:
China
Kuril Islands
Taiwan
South Karafuto,
Kwantung Leased Territory
Korea
Manchuria, and parts of Russia
French Indochina
Hong Kong
Thailand
British New Guinea
Guam
Dutch East Indies
Portuguese Timor
Malaya
Andaman
Nicobar Islands
Singapore
Kingdom of Sarawak
Brunei
North Borneo
Nauru, Imphal
Wake Island
Gilbert and Ellice Islands
Christmas Island
Attu and Kiska Islands
Panama
Haiti
Grenada
Cuba from Spain
Philipines from Spain
Italy
France
Belgium
Luxembourg
Kuwait
Afghanistan
Iraq
You are welcome
originally posted by: kobalt7
a reply to: Jay-morris
maybe hes referring to the 2nd Sino-Japanese War.
originally posted by: Involutionist
What good would that do for China...? This is REAL life. Not a movie.
originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
originally posted by: Involutionist
What good would that do for China...? This is REAL life. Not a movie.
Taking Taiwan will do no good for China? Did you actually just say that?
originally posted by: kobalt7
a reply to: Jay-morris
I Agree but they are not above taking risks, building a island military base in the middle of disputed territory is just one of many things they have done that could have led to a serious confrontation but by no mean is it the only major thing they have tried, they are weighing their options and choosing methods of encroachment that will allow them to exert more control on the surrounding countries while avoiding all out confrontation.
Modern warfare is less about open maneuvers and more about espionage and economic warfare. Subverting the current democratic system to fit their agenda eventually installing a puppet regime, which they have tried multiple times in Taiwan, they could use light propaganda to create a divide and slowly acclimate the society to communist ideals . Targeting the youth would allow them to control the future of that nation, they could take Taiwan without firing a single shot in a generation.
originally posted by: Xcalibur254
Cool. It's about time someone tried flexing their economic muscle against the US. Maybe if someone actually gives us a quick punch to the nose we'll stop trying to stick it in every place it doesn't belong.
originally posted by: kobalt7
a reply to: IkNOwSTuff
The losers of the civil war that fled to Taiwan were the Republic of China, who withdrew after communist backed rebels took over. The current political power in China is the result of foreign influence. We protected them because China was an allied nation so we held up our Treaty with ROC and continue to do so. The fact that Nixon recognized The PRC did not change the history.
America needs to keep to American problems and stay out of Asia is an ignorant comment by someone who has a limited concept of history, political science and economics.
China comes second in modern slavery charts at over 3 million, debt servitude seems light compared to actual slavery.
Comparing Tibet with Mexico fails with any level of scrutiny.
I always find it amusing to watch/listen to Americans talk about "insert issue here"
Usually something condescending follows but it always comes from a youth with years of armchair internet politics and propaganda lodged in his/her brain.
Its fine to be anti-american but in this instance your views seem less about the actual history involved and more about your personal albeit basic view of politics.
HELL YEAH.
originally posted by: burdman30ott6
originally posted by: Xcalibur254
Cool. It's about time someone tried flexing their economic muscle against the US. Maybe if someone actually gives us a quick punch to the nose we'll stop trying to stick it in every place it doesn't belong.
They'll break their hand and if they try it a second time, they'll pull back a bloody nub. In the past 8 years, the US has sold over $15 Billion in arms to Taiwan, and Beijing has bitched and whined about it each time, fretting, fuming, and threatening all ultimately blowing smoke up the US' ass and doing nothing of substance. Tigers don't change their stripes, China is a toothless paper tiger lacking the power and/or the balls to do anything in the face of an alert United States.
This is our world, China is allowed to play here until they bore us and we decide to rescind the invitation. You may not like that fact, but it is a fact and it is no closer to changing than it ever has been.
They have been getting bolder with the US, some of the # they have pulled just in the last 2 decades you might be shocked.
originally posted by: IkNOwSTuff
there never has and never will be a massive Chinese army mobilisation.