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Court decision against trump means Twitter can no longer kick off conservatives

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posted on Jul, 9 2019 @ 04:29 PM
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So the 2nd circuit court of appeals has upheld a decision that says trump blocking people on his twitter account is a violation of the first amendment

This decision will actually backfire and end up helping conservatives if it is held up

The most obvious way is that many liberal politicians like aoc block people, and this they will have to be unblocked

The more important thing though is why the court made its decision

The court basically claims that twitter is a public board. On this public board, governmental messaging takes place, in this case in the form of the presidents comments

This means it is against the first amendment to block people not only from reading government business in a public board, but more importantly by blocking people it keeps them from being part of the public debate on that messaging by not being allowed to comment

This is a huge blow to Twitter, despite looking like a loss to trump

This means that twitter can not kick people off its platform, particularly for ideological reasons

If twitter kicks a conservative off, then that conservative no longer can see the governmental messages, and can not participate in the public dialogue

So the defense of twitter that they are a private company no longer applies

This also opens twitter up to lawsuits for every single person they have censored for ideological reasons

Favoring one party on a public board like this would be illegal, and would be tantamount to using public communications to influence an election

And the courts justification would also apply to other social media platforms that government offices post on: YouTube, Facebook, and it could affect google as a whole

Now the reason I say if this holds up is that there is a chance that the Supreme Court will take this case

But if they don’t, or they uphold the decision, then this could lead the way to countless lawsuits on these companies for censoring non establishment (primarily conservative but not all) views




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posted on Jul, 9 2019 @ 04:31 PM
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lolz

Even when Trump loses. . . he wins.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA


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posted on Jul, 9 2019 @ 04:33 PM
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You know it doesn't work that way.


These rules ONLY apply to Conservatives, Libertarians, Christians, and anyone else that is not part of the progressive program.


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posted on Jul, 9 2019 @ 04:35 PM
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Rules don't apply to democrats, though.
They believe it, through and through.

So by that logic, democrats can ban conservatives from doing exactly what democrats do, but not vice versa.

I honestly hope to see the end of twitter/facebook over this sort of stuff.
Sooner or later the adults will have to step and and spank the children.


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posted on Jul, 9 2019 @ 04:45 PM
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This HAS to stick in the craw the people who really have been supporting and defending corporate censorship.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA*love it*HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA



posted on Jul, 9 2019 @ 04:50 PM
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originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Grambler

This HAS to stick in the craw the people who really have been supporting and defending corporate censorship.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA*love it*HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA



Yes every time social media censorship comes up in these conversations, people say hey there a private company so they can censor who they want

Well not any more

This also means that kicking off people for ideological reasons is officially election tampering

Imagine if official government messages in say where your polling place is was selectively censored from on political party

Well in effect that’s what is happening here with twitter keeping conservatives banned from their site and keeping them from seeing official government messages


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posted on Jul, 9 2019 @ 04:51 PM
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Yup, Twitter banned me because i asked AOC if she was r*tarded. To be fair, i honestly believed it was a legitimate question... Now it looks like its time to appeal my ban again, lol
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posted on Jul, 9 2019 @ 04:52 PM
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originally posted by: jhn7537
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Yup, Twitter has banned me because i asked AOC if she was r*tarded... Now it looks like its time to appeal my ban again, lol


Don’t appeal

File a lawsuit



posted on Jul, 9 2019 @ 04:53 PM
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I am in awe … hope it works out best for the original US Constitution here



posted on Jul, 9 2019 @ 04:53 PM
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originally posted by: Grambler

originally posted by: jhn7537
a reply to: Grambler

Yup, Twitter has banned me because i asked AOC if she was r*tarded... Now it looks like its time to appeal my ban again, lol


Don’t appeal

File a lawsuit


Sounds like a good idea.. i would guess a class action will start at some point. I have all the back and forths from twitter support, too... its crazy what the left gets away with on Twitter...



posted on Jul, 9 2019 @ 04:57 PM
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Why does Twitter have a "block" option then? This is really stupid. Let's force Trump to never block a-hole lefty's, meanwhile lawsuits will pile up against people like AOC etc...

What's next? Are the courts going to decide that Facebook users can't remove "friends" anymore if a lefty is constantly bashing them cause Trump is bad?

This is really, really getting out of hand.
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posted on Jul, 9 2019 @ 05:03 PM
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originally posted by: Wookiep
Why does Twitter have a "block" option then? This is really stupid. Let's force Trump to never block a-hole lefty's, meanwhile lawsuits will pile up against people like AOC etc...

What's next? Are the courts going to decide that Facebook users can't remove "friends" anymore if a lefty is constantly bashing them cause Trump is bad?

This is really, really getting out of hand.




This is where it's headed, to the cheers of the crowd apparently.



posted on Jul, 9 2019 @ 05:07 PM
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originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

originally posted by: Wookiep
Why does Twitter have a "block" option then? This is really stupid. Let's force Trump to never block a-hole lefty's, meanwhile lawsuits will pile up against people like AOC etc...

What's next? Are the courts going to decide that Facebook users can't remove "friends" anymore if a lefty is constantly bashing them cause Trump is bad?

This is really, really getting out of hand.




This is where it's headed, to the cheers of the crowd apparently.


Cheers?

Most conservatives have been complaint about these activist courts making decisions just to hurt trump for two years now

It’s not our fault they are so hateful of trump that in an attempt to harm him they inadvertently interpret the law to harm their censorious allies



posted on Jul, 9 2019 @ 05:11 PM
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I'm sure government enforcement of these companies will make everything better and not open a can of worms or anything like that.


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posted on Jul, 9 2019 @ 05:20 PM
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originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed
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I'm sure government enforcement of these companies will make everything better and not open a can of worms or anything like that.


Funny you had no problem with government enforcement of the ag of the uk saying people commenting on trials on social media in the uk could be in contempt of court, or the can of worms that could open

And yes, I do have a problem with these trump hating activist courts and the can of worms they are opening

This was a horrible ruling

But if it’s now the law, then it should be applied across the board,

So in an attempt to get trump with a stupid decision, it backfired on their left wing pals censoring conservatives



posted on Jul, 9 2019 @ 05:23 PM
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When you have a monopoly on a method of communication (much less anything else), that's precisely when government should step into the picture. Do I think that certain folks will believe themselves exempt from this ruling? Absolutely. I welcome the flood of lawsuits, or in the best case scenario, the disbanding of social media as a whole.



posted on Jul, 9 2019 @ 05:26 PM
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From what I read, the decision was made because he attempts to use Twitter as a platform to conduct government business. So unless said conservatives are government officials, conducting government business, it won't help them in any way.



posted on Jul, 9 2019 @ 05:29 PM
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originally posted by: Hypntick
a reply to: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

When you have a monopoly on a method of communication (much less anything else), that's precisely when government should step into the picture. Do I think that certain folks will believe themselves exempt from this ruling? Absolutely. I welcome the flood of lawsuits, or in the best case scenario, the disbanding of social media as a whole.




It is quite the conundrum, I've been an advocate right from the get go that corporations have been getting too big for their boots and have too much power, and that was met with " you're a socialist, you want to take what someone else has earned " well here we are with those same people now cheering on government intervention.



posted on Jul, 9 2019 @ 05:30 PM
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Yes grambler, I have no issue with enforcement of the law, a law that's been there since the 80s.



posted on Jul, 9 2019 @ 05:39 PM
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The obvious solution fro Twitter to preserve it's protection as a private non-political platform is to ban all public figures in the political arena from using its service. No tweeting from government representatives...period. Once out of office, they can join, but not while IN office.

That would protect them from this ruling, legally.

Is it ideal? No, but it would solve their problem created by this stupid court ruling.



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