originally posted by: Itisnowagain
a reply to: Nothin
The toothache has not dragged anyone into duality....
Duality is toothache plus you who can be dragged.
There is just toothache......the idea that there is toothache and a you who has toothache is duality.
Where is this you that has anything?
Everything is simply just happening but not to anyone.
It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom.
You own nothing because you are not!!
There is only ever what is happening.... nothing is hapoening to or being done by anyone...... It is a movie that just appears as whatever is
It is perfect just as it is..... and could be no different.
This is freedom for no one.
Good IINA: it appears as though we are discussing different aspects, of nothing.
Understand, and agree with your description of duality.
For you: the arrival of toothache, the persistance, the trip to the medicine cabinet, the taking of medicine, can all be seen from a non-dual
perspective. Just like the spoon stirring the coffee, not being done by anyone.
Honestly think that that is not easy for many to understand, and so sometimes try to explain things differently.
So 'us' was used as: us that are having this convo, and not a separate person from 'this that is'.
Here again is my idea of a different flavour of duality:
In the here and now, no separation, just this timeless unified field of consciousness, or whatever it is.
There is no acceptance, nor resistance, as there is no one, and nothing to accept nor resist.
Toothache arises. No problem.
It is at this point: that acceptance of the here and now stumbles, and resistance appears.
Was suggesting that this resistance: is duality. Maybe because it requires a separation from the acceptance.
Because: now action is required. Going to medicine cabinet, and taking medicine.
If you have a different name for that: please share.