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originally posted by: schuyler
Where are you going to get the motorcycles? How about the riders? Do you have any idea how long a line of a million motorcycles would be? This stuff is completely delusional.
originally posted by: opethPA
So maybe you can help me understand why what is contained in a classified area is something that people without clearance have a right to try and break into?
originally posted by: spiritualarchitect
originally posted by: schuyler
Where are you going to get the motorcycles? How about the riders? Do you have any idea how long a line of a million motorcycles would be? This stuff is completely delusional.
The riders already have the motorcycles because they own them.
You do not remember the plan known as 2 Million Bikers to DC?
originally posted by: spiritualarchitect
originally posted by: opethPA
So maybe you can help me understand why what is contained in a classified area is something that people without clearance have a right to try and break into?
So you are okay with a government that lies to its people? We are talking about the government and the military lying to the citizens of their own country. You think that is right for a government to do, including murdering their own people if they try to disclose that governments lies?
originally posted by: spiritualarchitect
originally posted by: schuyler
I'll just wait here.
Good dog, stay.
I'm not planning anything, just saying it would be fun to watch. Better than Waco. And probably less violent.
originally posted by: spiritualarchitect
originally posted by: opethPA
So maybe you can help me understand why what is contained in a classified area is something that people without clearance have a right to try and break into?
So you are okay with a government that lies to its people?
We are talking about the government and the military lying to the citizens of their own country.
You think that is right for a government to do, including murdering their own people if they try to disclose that governments lies?
1634. Protection Of Government Property -- Military Bases Section 1382 of Title 18 forbids trespassing on military bases. Two distinct offenses are embraced by this section. First, 18 U.S.C. § 1382 prohibits any person from entering any military installation for any purpose prohibited by law. In addition, this section precludes individuals who have been removed from bases and instructed not to reenter from reentering without permission. The intent required for these two offenses differs. In order to violate the first paragraph of 18 U.S.C. § 1382 an individual must enter for some "purpose prohibited by law or lawful regulation." Thus, this offense is a specific intent crime. Note, however, that in military installations where the public is forbidden entry by law or regulations, the simple intent to enter will be sufficient to trigger this section. The second paragraph of this section forbids reentry onto a military base after one has been removed from that base and told not to return. Given the nature of this offense it has been suggested that a distinct criminal intent need not be shown. See Holdridge v. United States, 282 F.2d 302, 309 (8th Cir. 1960). The mere presence of the individual on the base after his exclusion is sufficient to violate the law. This section applies to any military, naval, or coast guard reservation, post, fort, arsenal, yard, station or installation over which the United States has exclusive possession. See Holdridge v. United States, 282 F.2d at 309. Persons violating this section are subject to 6 months imprisonment, a $500 fine, or both. Of course, property offenses occurring on military bases may also violate 18 U.S.C. § 1361 or, where federal jurisdiction exists, the applicable federal enclave statutes. [cited in JM 9-66.100] ‹ 1633. Protection Of Government Property -- Natural Resources up 1635. Protection Of Government Property -- Other Federal Buildings ›
So you are okay with a government that lies to its people? We are talking about the government and the military lying to the citizens of their own country.
Thus, this offense is a specific intent crime. Note, however, that in military installations where the public is forbidden entry by law or regulations, the simpleThus, this offense is a specific intent crime. Note, however, that in military installations where the public is forbidden entry by law or regulations, the simple intent to enter will be sufficient to trigger this section..