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originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: ZeroFurrbone
The majority of people that think the military is right to keep secrets are people that realize that the world is a screwed up place, and we're not suddenly going to magically get along if we don't keep any secrets anymore. I know perfectly well that the government has, and will commit atrocities. That still doesn't mean that I have the right to know everything that is going on with the military, or that I have the right to walk onto the nearest military base and wherever I want to go, without consequences. I don't have the right to walk into my neighbors house and look at all their things any time I choose to either. Or into some companies facilities.
originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: ZeroFurrbone
Keep dreaming, but as long as people fight for resources, your magic Utopia where everyone hugs each other, walks into each others homes and does anything they want to do won't exist. The world doesn't work the way you want it to, and won't for a long time. So sorry, people like me will be around for years to come.
originally posted by: ZeroFurrbone
originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: ZeroFurrbone
You have every right to talk all you want. You don't have the right to know everything the military is doing, or to attempt to enter a military base if you're not supposed to be there.
I sure hope people like you stop existing one day. Like *snap* and you are goine, reduced to atoms.
I have the right to know everythign and everyone should too. Why? Because the same way the governement judges people, it should be able to judge itself too.
originally posted by: thedigirati
I really love how the children conflate "goverment secrets" with "military secrets" and have NO CLUE what they are talking about.
example, we know,(the Public) that there are stealth aircraft, however, it's a secret how the skin is made to make it stealth, and the children think this is a bad thing! They cannot articulate why it is bad other than "it's a secret"
Children should think before they speak, How many Drinks Nancy Pelosi has a day, should not be a secret, because she works for us, What President Trump may decide to do to Iran, militarily, should be a secret.
But keep on conflating the two kids, it's a great comedy routine ( and Russia, Iran, North Korea, and China love you for it)
Defense secrets are for a very good reason, just ask DARPA. (you can google that)
originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: ZeroFurrbone
Funny how you can find lots of information about the atrocities committed if you look online and in history books. But yeah, they're keeping them all secret.
originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: ZeroFurrbone
Two years ago is "too old for anyone to care about them"? Really? How about last year? Does a report from a year ago count as recent enough?
originally posted by: ZeroFurrbone
originally posted by: thedigirati
I really love how the children conflate "goverment secrets" with "military secrets" and have NO CLUE what they are talking about.
example, we know,(the Public) that there are stealth aircraft, however, it's a secret how the skin is made to make it stealth, and the children think this is a bad thing! They cannot articulate why it is bad other than "it's a secret"
Children should think before they speak, How many Drinks Nancy Pelosi has a day, should not be a secret, because she works for us, What President Trump may decide to do to Iran, militarily, should be a secret.
But keep on conflating the two kids, it's a great comedy routine ( and Russia, Iran, North Korea, and China love you for it)
Defense secrets are for a very good reason, just ask DARPA. (you can google that)
A: Where does Allien Artefacts fall into?
B: If the government spies on you then uses the said information to steal money from your accounts for whatever they need , would you like to know or not?
originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: ZeroFurrbone
Oh, I see. The death of a hundred civilians in a war zone isn't an atrocity. Got it. The only "real" atrocities are conspiracies.
originally posted by: ZeroFurrbone
originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: ZeroFurrbone
Two years ago is "too old for anyone to care about them"? Really? How about last year? Does a report from a year ago count as recent enough?
Oh well i am not following those. I am talking about real astrotocies and stuff.
Like how the osama bin laden capture was fake and other farces llike that. Conspiracies.
Maybe some capital punishemnts, years in prison, complete overhaul of the system etc.