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4th of July, 2019: SADNESS for our Country

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posted on Jul, 11 2019 @ 10:55 AM
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originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: peacefulpete

Seeking asylum is legal ... if you seek it through a legal port of entry and declare yourself and your intent upon arrival.

You don't get to sneak into the country illegally, and then say, "Oh, you caught me ... well, damn! Ummm, ASYLUM! ASYLUM!" That's exploiting a loophole in the law. It's exploiting the letter, not the intent. Most of these people will not actually qualify for asylum if they actually go to hearing, and they know it. They're relying on the system not holding them, so they get a second chance to disappear illegally into the country. They've been well coached by the people whom they pay to smuggle them into the country illegally. They don't ever intend to show up to their asylum hearing and the statistics on that bear me out.


again demonstrating the technique of repeating the same lie, over and over.

you and the others just keep repeating that the asylum seekers somehow broke the law.

they didn't.

ICE broke the law in abusing children to death.

Trump is definitely NOT getting re-elected, just look at what his presidency is coming to be known for.




posted on Jul, 11 2019 @ 10:57 AM
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originally posted by: shooterbrody

originally posted by: peacefulpete

originally posted by: shooterbrody

originally posted by: peacefulpete

originally posted by: shooterbrody
a reply to: peacefulpete


I hope I'm wrong but I bet they raped the toddler, maybe tortured her etc. because really, how the f*ck does a toddler die, if it's not intentional and deliberate.


Uh no they didn't?
You know unless you have actual proof of such?

You aren't just making things up and lying to support your bs posts, right?


You don't know if they did or not. I'm just saying that murdering little girls probably has a high likelihood of playing with her before killing her, too.

because why not, right?


Wow
JE is that you?


Who's that? And what did u think of the court hearings of yesterday, interviewing the mother whose daughter was killed by ICE?

Was this the hearing in which the entire department was accused of torturing and raping a toddler as you previously posted?
See when you post crap like that people like me no longer take you seriously.
So again I ask Julian Epstein is that you?


I've already posted two live videos of the hearing.

did u watch them?



posted on Jul, 11 2019 @ 10:58 AM
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originally posted by: pavil
a reply to: peacefulpete



seeking asylum is legal. 

the woman didn't commit any crime or break any laws. 


Did she seek Asylum in the first country she encountered?

Did she go to the US Consulate or Embassy?

Did she enter the US in the legally proscribed methods?

What exactly is her claim of Asylum? You do realize the vast majority who claim asylum are found to be lacking a valid claim. Many countries detain people who illegally enter their country till a determination has been made on their asylum claim.

It's obvious you think we are intentionally killing illegal immigrants that crossed our borders illegally. If that were true, we would be finding mass graves in the 100,000's a month.



meaningless noise

it's not illegal to come here and seek asylum.

America is a nation of immigrants. we all know this.

Most of us are from European descent, i.e. immigrants.



posted on Jul, 11 2019 @ 10:58 AM
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a reply to: peacefulpete

I missed the portion you highlighted about the torture and rape of the toddler.
Please point that particular section out?
That or shut up and quit with the lies.



posted on Jul, 11 2019 @ 11:01 AM
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originally posted by: shooterbrody

originally posted by: peacefulpete

originally posted by: peacefulpete
here the mother describes the experience of having her child taken from her and starved to death by ICE.



by the way, this is how I know that Trump's non-presidency will end soon. the evil has gone too far, already. ICE is killing children, of LEGAL asylum seekers, single mothers who want a better life for their babies. Who ICE is literally kidnapping and starving to death.

It must be too far, already, for most people to stomach.

Re-election in 2020, no f*cking way. hell I still think he will get removed from office before that, but besides that, there's no way for most people to support this evil.

People don't want our government literally killing babies.

the nightmare needs to end.

also consider that Rump is only slightly more than halfway thru his non-presidency.

so even if he DID finish his term, he still has almost the same amount of time left, that he has already been in office. That is, he has only held the office for a bit over 2 yrs, and he still has almost 2 yrs left.

that means that for all the tragedies that we've seen in 2 yrs, we still have to double that time frame, before the 2020 elections.

which means that at the very least, if trump's evil policies did continue, at a steady consistency, then there'd be at least DOUBLE everything seen so far.

double the child deaths, double the reports of border agents molesting 15 yr olds (which was the headline from the day before yesterday). Double the reports of Trump raping 13-yr olds, having sex trafficking parties with Jeffrey Epstein, etc. (which was also the headlines yesterday).

For all the craziness and tragedy and scandal, there would be at least double everything, in the remaining timeframe, before the 2020 elections.

So just double everything and think about how the majority of the US will be supporting all the child deaths by ICE, child rapes, sex trafficking parties by Trump and Epstein etc.

there is just no way in hell that Trump gets re-elected in 2020.

by the way, in more lighthearted assessment of 45, he will be remembered for his speech of George Washington taking over the airports, lol. so he can always get removed for his mental deterioration, lol.

Best Post Ever
Post this daily please

Signed,
The GOP and the committee to re elect President Trump



Ps...I was mistaken
AOC is that you????


yes, when someone summarizes the current news headlines, it makes sense to make it all seem like a joke. especially ICE agents molesting 15-yr olds.

ICE taking toddlers and starving them to death.



posted on Jul, 11 2019 @ 11:03 AM
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originally posted by: pavil
a reply to: peacefulpete

No offense, but how do you manage to function with Trump inside your brain like he is?

Well at least you haven't said he is Hitler.

So there's that.


well, how does anyone function, with Trump ruining our country, everyday?

and I do think he is Hitler. or at least trying to recreate the early days of the Nazi's in the 1930's. Yes, Trump seems to be trying to recreate it.



posted on Jul, 11 2019 @ 11:04 AM
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originally posted by: mikell
So throw the blame where it belongs Obama and be done.



Nope. An individual is responsible for his own personal actions.

Trump is responsible for the current concentration camps, torture and abuse and death of migrant children.

Trump will forever be known for his concentration camps.

What a legacy!!



posted on Jul, 11 2019 @ 11:06 AM
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originally posted by: shooterbrody
a reply to: peacefulpete

I missed the portion you highlighted about the torture and rape of the toddler.
Please point that particular section out?
That or shut up and quit with the lies.



yeah, watch any part of both videos I posted. The court hearings are about ICE starving her toddler to death. Starvation is torture.

do u need me to explain it, more than that?



posted on Jul, 11 2019 @ 11:09 AM
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a reply to: peacefulpete




yes, when someone summarizes the current news headlines, it makes sense to make it all seem like a joke.

no
you are the joke for accusing ice of torturing and raping a toddler




especially ICE agents molesting 15-yr olds. ICE taking toddlers and starving them to death.

Had you simply posted actual facts things may be different.

now you are the poster who accused an entire federal law enforcement department of torturing and raping a toddler, and you will get posts that reflect such

play a stupid game
win a stupid prize



posted on Jul, 11 2019 @ 11:20 AM
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a reply to: peacefulpete

It appears the toddler died of a respiratory infection 6 weeks after leaving the detention facility

Source CNN

The most one could say is that the medical care in the facility was inadequate, presumably due to there not being enough funding to cope with the large numbers. There's nothing in the report about the child being raped or tortured though. It seems to be a huge leap to go from the government struggling to cope with a crisis to assuming this is part of some crazy genocidal plot by Donald Trump. Yes, it's possible the government's policies may be aggravating the crisis but using hyperbole such as 'concentration camps' and accusing border guards of raping children does nothing for your cause; it only gives those who disagree with you reason to ignore you.
edit on 11/7/2019 by MarrsAttax because: (no reason given)



posted on Jul, 11 2019 @ 11:26 AM
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a reply to: peacefulpete


Nope. An individual is responsible for his own personal actions. 


So..... Should Ms Juarez be responsible for the death of her Child?

It was her decision to illegally enter a country, knowing she would probably be detained and seperated if if they were apprehended.

Or does she get a pass?



posted on Jul, 11 2019 @ 11:28 AM
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a reply to: MarrsAttax

From the CNN article, the plot thickens.....

Late last year, Juarez filed a wrongful death claim seeking $60 million from the US government.



posted on Jul, 11 2019 @ 11:39 AM
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a reply to: pavil

I thought it interesting that at the start of the video the banner read 'Mother whose toddler died in ICE custody speaks' but by the end it had been updated to 'Mother whose toddler died after being in ICE custody speaks' - presumably a CBSN lawyer spotted that during the broadcast.

Regardless, it's not good enough for conditions to be so bad in these places that children are literally 'catching their death'. The USA does have a choice what it spends it's money on - the trillions poured into black budget programs comes to mind. It seems to me this problem could be fixed for the price of a couple of stealth bombers? I don't think this is part of any intentional policy by evil Trump though, but of course it helps the narrative to paint it in that way.



posted on Jul, 11 2019 @ 11:43 AM
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a reply to: peacefulpete

thank you for asking

Washington (CNN)Yazmin Juarez, a mother whose toddler died weeks after they were released from Immigration and Customs Enforcement custody in 2018, recalled the death of her child in emotional testimony before a House panel Wednesday.

edition.cnn.com...


weeks after detention, not days or hours, weeks, so the Mother did not feed th baby but it's because of detention it died?

can you please show how a baby can live for weeks without being fed, thanks in advance

so yes Pete, you lied.


edit on 11-7-2019 by thedigirati because: liars should be shunned on ATS.

edit on 11-7-2019 by thedigirati because: Pete sounds like uncletomahawk, he only lasted weekd before the ban hammer



posted on Jul, 11 2019 @ 11:53 AM
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a reply to: thedigirati

This thread reminds me f the one where someone claimed that rockets could not work in space.

There will be pages of actual facts and data, but the OP will still push the narrative because being wrong or admitting to being wrong is beyond his way of thinking.

I think it's a millennial thing.

They just cant admit to being wrong.



posted on Jul, 11 2019 @ 11:59 AM
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a reply to: DBCowboy

I think Pete got all the partcipation trophys while going throuugh the "common core" education in the USA during the Obama years.

Thanks Obama!!

(ever notice that to smear President Trump the left and Democrats have to lie, use innuendo, or omit information, but yet they say he is so evil, but nothing sticks)

🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️



posted on Jul, 11 2019 @ 12:10 PM
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originally posted by: peacefulpete

originally posted by: pavil
a reply to: peacefulpete



seeking asylum is legal. 

the woman didn't commit any crime or break any laws. 


Did she seek Asylum in the first country she encountered?

Did she go to the US Consulate or Embassy?

Did she enter the US in the legally proscribed methods?

What exactly is her claim of Asylum? You do realize the vast majority who claim asylum are found to be lacking a valid claim. Many countries detain people who illegally enter their country till a determination has been made on their asylum claim.

It's obvious you think we are intentionally killing illegal immigrants that crossed our borders illegally. If that were true, we would be finding mass graves in the 100,000's a month.



meaningless noise

it's not illegal to come here and seek asylum.

America is a nation of immigrants. we all know this.

Most of us are from European descent, i.e. immigrants.



Until you can link to what you said you lied again.

Show what the international laws say about asylum Pete, not what you think/want it to say.
quotes and links. you don't have to lie anymore, really.



posted on Jul, 11 2019 @ 03:30 PM
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originally posted by: shooterbrody
a reply to: peacefulpete




yes, when someone summarizes the current news headlines, it makes sense to make it all seem like a joke.

no
you are the joke for accusing ice of torturing and raping a toddler




especially ICE agents molesting 15-yr olds. ICE taking toddlers and starving them to death.

Had you simply posted actual facts things may be different.

now you are the poster who accused an entire federal law enforcement department of torturing and raping a toddler, and you will get posts that reflect such

play a stupid game
win a stupid prize



Look: Starving a baby to death, is torture.

So: It makes sense that I said the baby was tortured, because the baby was starved. to death.

And yes, I assume rape, molestation, etc. was probably happening on top of the starvation. Which makes sense, too, when the subject is people who are starving children to death.

And just the day before, the main news headline was the 15-yr old who was publicly molested by the laughing border patrol agents.

So they're documented torturers, murderers, abusers, and public molesters of 15 yr olds. and u guys are protesting that I figured they're rapists too?

Yes, they're most likely rapists too.




edit on 11-7-2019 by peacefulpete because: (no reason given)



posted on Jul, 11 2019 @ 03:35 PM
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originally posted by: MarrsAttax
a reply to: peacefulpete

It appears the toddler died of a respiratory infection 6 weeks after leaving the detention facility

Source CNN

The most one could say is that the medical care in the facility was inadequate, presumably due to there not being enough funding to cope with the large numbers. There's nothing in the report about the child being raped or tortured though. It seems to be a huge leap to go from the government struggling to cope with a crisis to assuming this is part of some crazy genocidal plot by Donald Trump. Yes, it's possible the government's policies may be aggravating the crisis but using hyperbole such as 'concentration camps' and accusing border guards of raping children does nothing for your cause; it only gives those who disagree with you reason to ignore you.


I've literally been talking about the headlines of the news yesterday and the day before.

These are the news stories that the whole world was talking about, yesterday and the day before.



posted on Jul, 11 2019 @ 03:40 PM
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originally posted by: pavil
a reply to: peacefulpete


Nope. An individual is responsible for his own personal actions. 


So..... Should Ms Juarez be responsible for the death of her Child?

It was her decision to illegally enter a country, knowing she would probably be detained and seperated if if they were apprehended.

Or does she get a pass?


well it's not illegal to come here and seek asylum. it's legal.

and no, the immigrants probably don't expect such their babies to go through child abuse by the US government. Which remains the actions of the govt., so the govt. remains responsible for their own actions.

That is, the govt. remains responsible for starving her toddler to death. the baby should not have been separated in the 1st place. and it literally served no purpose, besides killing her.



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