Footage Shows Thousands of Religious Minorities Held in Chinese 'Thought Transformation' Camps.

a reply to: chr0naut

Humm, i dunno, what do you think?...

New Zealand History: South African Concentration Camps

The 'enemy in our midst' (internment Camps in New Zealand)



[url=http://nzetc.victoria.ac.nz/tm/scholarly/tei-WH2Pris-_N72374.html]Prisoners of War V: Enemy Aliens in New Zealand

‘Enemy aliens’ on Somes Island (New Zealand)

Internment camp, Motuihe Island

Concentration Camps Existed Long Before Auschwitz

Since the following exists in the internet about your country and "concentration camps", it must be 100% true...



CHRISTIANS: NZ NEW PRISONS, FEMA CAMPS, FLEE, PEOPLE, TO SAFETY:

Hollywood director Taika Waititi says New Zealand is racist

How racist are we New Zealand

Taika Waititi's right, New Zealand really is a racist place

“New Zealand Is Turning Into A Really Racist Country” – updated 26 Aug 2015: Skin Heads and Hate Crimes.

New Zealand history: Racism

This Is the Real New Zealand

Since your Prime Minister, Jacinda Ardern, is white she must be racist despite claiming she is not. Everyone who voted for a WHITE person as PM of New Zealand must be racists themselves...

And since there is a 74% chance that you are white, that must mean you are racist too.

What do you think?...

Now, are you going to stop trying to derail the thread with lies and asinine claims? Or if you intent on keep on derailing the thread just stop posting altogether. Thanks.

originally posted by: ElectricUniverse
a reply to: chr0naut

Humm, i dunno, what do you think?...

New Zealand History: South African Concentration Camps

South African? That's a bit tenuous.

The 'enemy in our midst' (internment Camps in New Zealand)

This was during the First World War and there's even a picture of them in uniform?

[url=http://nzetc.victoria.ac.nz/tm/scholarly/tei-WH2Pris-_N723 74.html]Prisoners of War V: Enemy Aliens in New Zealand

‘Enemy aliens’ on Somes Island (New Zealand)

Internment camp, Motuihe Island

This was during war and there was concern over allegiances of the internees. These were potentially enemy 5th columnists - nothing to do with race.

Concentration Camps Existed Long Before Auschwitz

And, would you say that any of these governments who had concentration camps before the Nazi ones, were left-wing governments, or were they right-wing governments? Almost universally they were right-wing.

Since the following exists in the internet about your country and "concentration camps", it must be 100% true...

CHRISTIANS: NZ NEW PRISONS, FEMA CAMPS, FLEE, PEOPLE, TO SAFETY:

What nonsense. We've had the 'supercity' thing for years and all this bizzaro and unrelated crap has not come to pass.

Hollywood director Taika Waititi says New Zealand is racist

How racist are we New Zealand

Taika Waititi's right, New Zealand really is a racist place

“New Zealand Is Turning Into A Really Racist Country” – updated 26 Aug 2015: Skin Heads and Hate Crimes.

New Zealand history: Racism

This Is the Real New Zealand

Yes, there are racists here. Did you notice the "Skin Heads and hate crimes" headline? The racists are identifiably right-wing.

Since your Prime Minister, Jacinda Ardern, is white she must be racist despite claiming she is not. Everyone who voted for a WHITE person as PM of New Zealand must be racists themselves...

And since there is a 74% chance that you are white, that must mean you are racist too.

What do you think?...

Want to know what I think? There is only one human race, that is what I think. Many New Zealanders would also agree.

You have to understand, we never had legally sanctioned slavery. Not even once, ever, and we never had the racist attitudes and entrenched racist system that the US had.

Now, are you going to stop trying to derail the thread with lies and asinine claims? Or if you intent on keep on derailing the thread just stop posting altogether. Thanks.

I don't see a vast difference between the unfairness and inhumanity of the Chinese camps and those of Guantanamo, Abu Gharib, Detention Site Green, Salt Pit, Camp Bucca, Camp Cropper, the Temara interrogation centre, Camp Lemonnier, Diego Garcia, Camp Eagle, Camp Bondsteel and all the other 'extraordinary rendition' sites.

Every country needs to close every 'black site'.

Genuine prisoners, who have actually committed crimes, to be charged and jailed in legitimate prisons and those prisoners who aren't officially and legally charged, must be released.

originally posted by: ElectricUniverse

originally posted by: chr0naut

I never claimed to have invented Nazism, or the idea that the Nazi's were extreme right wing. If you believed I did, that is your own personal delusion and i fully reject it.

What in the world?... Is that what i wrote?... Please learn to understand what people say instead of making up claims people wrote things they never did... The point is, you plagiarized something making it look like YOU were the one who came up with THAT PARTICULAR ARGUMENT. Nowhere in my statements did I say, or claim that you invented the notion that the nazis were right-wing, which is false as their ideologies are SOCIALIST...

Italy seizes 'combat-ready' missile in raids on far right - BBC News

Notice the Nazi regalia? Notice that the BBC called them extreme right? That is because Nazi's are extreme right and always have been.

originally posted by: chr0naut
Trade Unions are an attempt to socialize and democratize workplaces under capitalism. They are leftist organizations by definition.

That must be why membership in unions are at an all time low... One of the differences is that in nations like the U.S. the state does not own and control all unions, while in socialism and communism they are either all controlled by the state, or they are made to be owned and controlled by the state. Just like the nazis, the CCP, the communists in Cuba, North Korea, the U.S.S.R. etc have all done, or do to this day like Venezuela.

When the state is a larger "workers union", as under Communism, it incorporates other unions into itself.

Yes but you grouped the Nazi's with the Communists. One is extreme right-wing (the Nazi's), the other extreme left-wing (the Communists).

The Nazi's did not absorb the Trade Unions into the government. They were outlawed and members of the trade unions, particularly the leadership, were arrested and the right to strike was abolished by legal decree.

The Nazi's wiped out all leftist opposition groups. They were never leftist but were extreme right.

Your claim is that only the nazis did that, which is false.

How the Republican Party Became The Party of Racism - The Root

Riight, because a far left-wing website claims it, it must be so huh?...

Yes, left leaning, but quite factual despite that: The Root on Media Bias/Fact Check

originally posted by: chr0nautYou cannot both suggest that I was plagiarizing other sources of facts, and also suggest that I wasn't presenting any facts. The ideas are mutually exclusive.

When you are presenting a plagiarized content as part of your argument you are in fact claiming that plagiarized content is true...

Come on, I did admit that I quoted from another source without adequately attributing it. I am not making a claim that the data from that source was my invention. Plagiarism would be if I did suggest so, but I didn't and don't.

Perhaps you could address the actual content of what I quoted, rather than my lapse in attribution (which I hope I have made up for, by clearly stating that I quoted it from elsewhere)?

originally posted by: chr0naut
Because you could not refute or address the the actual facts themselves, you chose to attack my presentation of them. Well, yup, you got me, I didn't make them up.

I actually did refute your claims.

You said that the Nazi's were left-wingers.

I can't believe that anyone with an education would hold to such a bizarre inversion of the truth!

You are just too blind to notice with your anti-Trump rethoric. What's more, I would be willing to bet that you are yet another "WHITE LIBERAL/PROGRESSIVE/SOCIALIST" since 74% of people from your own country are "white Europeans."

I am an Australian citizen where the number is somewhere about 94% of European origin. I am only resident here in New Zealand.

... and the last few times I voted, I voted for a center right party (although there are some socialist goals that I believe are worthwhile and perhaps will become necessary for stable and fair government in future).

But, yes, there are many more Europeans in New Zealand than there are Maori. If you knew more of the history, it was because the Maori only arrived in NZ, to settle, a bit before European settlement.

Both Europeans and Maori were relative newcomers to these islands.

The original inhabitants, the Moriori were culturally different to the later arriving Maori and were nearly totally wiped out, or later, assimilated, by the Maori prior to European arrival.

People should remember this because Antifa, and BLM have called for the same thing "forcefully sending people in the right to thought concentration camps."

a reply to: ElectricUniverse

Would you mind sourcing that, please?