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Why Haven't Leftists Demanded Democrats Change Their Party's Racist Name?

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posted on Jul, 5 2019 @ 03:47 PM
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a reply to: chr0naut

Since asylum-seekers care more about America than Democrats, I say we do a one-for-one swap. It will improve American society.




posted on Jul, 5 2019 @ 03:52 PM
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originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: chr0naut

Since asylum-seekers care more about America than Democrats, I say we do a one-for-one swap. It will improve American society.


Nah, I think the cost would be worth spending to fly them all, coach, to New Zealand for them to live the life of leisure in that self proclaimed paradise in the south seas.


edit on 7/5/2019 by Krakatoa because: fixed spelling errors



posted on Jul, 5 2019 @ 04:03 PM
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originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: IAMTAT
In so many words, member Lumenari asked this interesting question, earlier...and I thought it was worth putting to a thread to discuss.

The Democrat Party is historically the party of slavery and the KKK.
Clearly, the Democrat Party name remains a symbol of historical racism, slavery, bigotry, and violence.

This remains fact...regardless of standard convoluted, contemporary Leftist excuses and explanations to the contrary.

The Left is currently crusading to rename schools, sports teams, streets, parks, buildings, etc., due to their perceived association with major US historical figures and events they connect to historical US racism and bigotry.

Additionally, they are also destroying, and banning flags and statues they feel are associated with America's history of slavery and racism.


So...the questions remain...

WHY are Leftists NOT addressing their own 'Donkey' In The Room?

WHY have Leftists been completely ignoring the fact that the Democrat Party name is historically synonymous with institutional slavery and racism?

WHERE is the Left's crusade to rename the Democrat Party, for which so many of them vote and enthusiastically support?

Serious questions.


Why haven't Americans demanded that the country change its racist name?

America has historically been the country of slavery and the KKK.
Clearly, the American name remains a symbol of historical racism, slavery, bigotry, and violence.

This remains fact...regardless of standard convoluted excuses and explanations to the contrary.

Americans are currently crusading to rename schools, sports teams, streets, parks, buildings, etc., due to their perceived association with major US historical figures and events they connect to historical US racism and bigotry.

Additionally, they are also destroying, and banning flags and statues they feel are associated with America's history of slavery and racism.

So...the questions remain...

WHY are Americans NOT addressing their own 'blind insane wounded eagle' In The Room?

WHY have Americans been completely ignoring the fact that they are historically synonymous with institutional slavery and racism?

WHERE is the 's crusade to rename the United States, for which so many of them vote and enthusiastically support?

Serious questions... nah. Just ravings reverberating around the echo chamber.




I know you are trying to be witty, but all you did was just further show how stupid the whole "erase history because something happened we don't like by modern standards" movement from the left is...



posted on Jul, 5 2019 @ 04:04 PM
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originally posted by: LogicalGraphitti

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: LSU2018
a reply to: blueman12

Another one who deflects because he can't answer a simple question.

Why do democrats call American flags, Confederate flags, KKK, Jim Crow, the Betsy Ross flag, etc all racist when every bit of it was founded by the democrat party? Are you aware that democrats were the ones opposed to integration and civil rights in the 60's?

So again, why are these things racist, but not the party who was behind it all?


Are you aware that the Republicans have now "taken up the torch" and, these days, stand for the very things that were the worst of what some Democrats got involved in back in history?


That's really not true. It's just what MSM wants you to think. The mantra of the right (Republicans and others) is for people to have equal access to opportunity under the rule of law and defined by the constitution. That means no distinction to race or religion. Come to our country as defined by law, get a bit of help at the local level if you need it and work as hard as you can to achieve as much as you want.

it doesn't get any simpler.


It does get simpler.

You have poverty and are one of the wealthiest nations on Earth.

Services that other, even third world nations, provide for their citizens, things like universal health care and free education for all, are not available to you.

Your entire country is built upon the acquisition of wealth over any other thing. US citizens are dying, in significant numbers, of preventable things, simply because the cannot afford the cures (or the insurance).

Americans are not doing much about its problems because you think you are the best and you keep blaming 'the other party'.



posted on Jul, 5 2019 @ 04:32 PM
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originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: LogicalGraphitti

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: LSU2018
a reply to: blueman12

Another one who deflects because he can't answer a simple question.

Why do democrats call American flags, Confederate flags, KKK, Jim Crow, the Betsy Ross flag, etc all racist when every bit of it was founded by the democrat party? Are you aware that democrats were the ones opposed to integration and civil rights in the 60's?

So again, why are these things racist, but not the party who was behind it all?


Are you aware that the Republicans have now "taken up the torch" and, these days, stand for the very things that were the worst of what some Democrats got involved in back in history?


That's really not true. It's just what MSM wants you to think. The mantra of the right (Republicans and others) is for people to have equal access to opportunity under the rule of law and defined by the constitution. That means no distinction to race or religion. Come to our country as defined by law, get a bit of help at the local level if you need it and work as hard as you can to achieve as much as you want.

it doesn't get any simpler.


It does get simpler.

You have poverty and are one of the wealthiest nations on Earth.

Services that other, even third world nations, provide for their citizens, things like universal health care and free education for all, are not available to you.

Your entire country is built upon the acquisition of wealth over any other thing. US citizens are dying, in significant numbers, of preventable things, simply because the cannot afford the cures (or the insurance).

Americans are not doing much about its problems because you think you are the best and you keep blaming 'the other party'.


1) The US has a public school system. Free education for all k-12. College isn't free. Show me a country with free college for ALL. The operative word is ALL. In many countries, only a select few can go to college even if it is free. Students are tracked. In the US, if you can pay or get scholarships, you can go.

2) Universal healthcare isn't as straight forward for any number of reasons. First off, the US is almost 350 million people. Second, we also have a huge amount of poor immigrants. Many countries that have universal healthcare don't have nearly the amount of immigrants. 3) We pay for your security. IF the US stops being the world's police, then maybe we could afford things like Universal Healthcare. But then we'd see how much other countries could afford once they are responsible for their own defense. 4). The US has the best outcomes. Sure, we may not offer free checkups, but if the SHTF medically and you are trying to survive cancer or something else major, the US is where you want to be.

3) What data/facts do you have about US citizens dying of preventable things. The biggest issue the US has is obesity. This country is so bountiful that the biggest health problem poor people have is being fat asses. The poor in the US live better than the middle/upper classes in most countries. Running water, plumbing, electricity, TVs, phones, cars, clothing, refrigeration, housing.

While maybe not as nice as say someone who is wealthier, the poor literally have every modern amenity available. There are no favelas in the US. Our kids don't walk around naked and barefoot with distended bellies. Even the crappiest ghettos.



posted on Jul, 5 2019 @ 04:48 PM
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a reply to: IAMTAT

Oh snap... Peter Jackson did "Dead Alive" and "Bad Taste" there.

I may have to give the place some props after all...




posted on Jul, 5 2019 @ 04:50 PM
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a reply to: chr0naut

Free education doesn't exist? Someone call the cops I did not pay a cent for k-12.



posted on Jul, 5 2019 @ 04:55 PM
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originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: LogicalGraphitti

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: LSU2018
a reply to: blueman12

Another one who deflects because he can't answer a simple question.

Why do democrats call American flags, Confederate flags, KKK, Jim Crow, the Betsy Ross flag, etc all racist when every bit of it was founded by the democrat party? Are you aware that democrats were the ones opposed to integration and civil rights in the 60's?

So again, why are these things racist, but not the party who was behind it all?


Are you aware that the Republicans have now "taken up the torch" and, these days, stand for the very things that were the worst of what some Democrats got involved in back in history?


That's really not true. It's just what MSM wants you to think. The mantra of the right (Republicans and others) is for people to have equal access to opportunity under the rule of law and defined by the constitution. That means no distinction to race or religion. Come to our country as defined by law, get a bit of help at the local level if you need it and work as hard as you can to achieve as much as you want.

it doesn't get any simpler.


It does get simpler.

You have poverty and are one of the wealthiest nations on Earth.



Actually, we should check on the states in America and where they stand.

Let's take California... a Progressive paradise that holds many of the same values as you do.

It has....

The greatest wealth disparity of any state in the USA.

1/3 of America's welfare recipients live in California.

1/5 of America's homeless live in California.

It had one of the biggest economies IN America and was one of the top 10 on the planet not too long ago, but an infestation of Progressive leftist ideas has sunk that and now they operate in the red.

Now it has some of the highest taxes in America.

It has cities that are too expensive for a normal person to live in that have to put out interactive maps to show their citizens where the poop and drug needles are on the streets.

If we take that state as a roadmap it tells us exactly what would happen if we implement the policies you are talking about.

All the things that Progressives say they can and will fix, if only we allow their policies.

No thanks.




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posted on Jul, 5 2019 @ 06:17 PM
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originally posted by: olaru12
The democrats certainly have a deplorable history of racism but the GOP seems to have picked up the ball and run with it quite successfully. Strange how racist culture seems to switch political affiliation. Watching trumps 4th speech and the attending crowd...white as rice.

ok, now show me a few pics of isolated minorities to prove me wrong...

btw, nice circle jerk...be sure to wash your hands when finished.


Has it? Because Dems drop minorities for the next equitable ones often it seems. They'll tell you how bad things are for this group or that group, but currently seem to be pandering to the illegal immigrant vote. ¡Vota por mí y obtendrás cosas gratis!



posted on Jul, 5 2019 @ 06:37 PM
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originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: LogicalGraphitti

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: LSU2018
a reply to: blueman12

Another one who deflects because he can't answer a simple question.

Why do democrats call American flags, Confederate flags, KKK, Jim Crow, the Betsy Ross flag, etc all racist when every bit of it was founded by the democrat party? Are you aware that democrats were the ones opposed to integration and civil rights in the 60's?

So again, why are these things racist, but not the party who was behind it all?


Are you aware that the Republicans have now "taken up the torch" and, these days, stand for the very things that were the worst of what some Democrats got involved in back in history?


That's really not true. It's just what MSM wants you to think. The mantra of the right (Republicans and others) is for people to have equal access to opportunity under the rule of law and defined by the constitution. That means no distinction to race or religion. Come to our country as defined by law, get a bit of help at the local level if you need it and work as hard as you can to achieve as much as you want.

it doesn't get any simpler.


It does get simpler.

You have poverty and are one of the wealthiest nations on Earth.

Services that other, even third world nations, provide for their citizens, things like universal health care and free education for all, are not available to you.

Your entire country is built upon the acquisition of wealth over any other thing. US citizens are dying, in significant numbers, of preventable things, simply because the cannot afford the cures (or the insurance).

Americans are not doing much about its problems because you think you are the best and you keep blaming 'the other party'.

Again, more myths from down under. Yes, we have poverty but it's the left that keeps people that way. The conservative ideology is everyone has an opportunity but you have to work for it.

Universal health care doesn't bring people out of poverty.

We have free education up through the 12th grade. Many states, such as Georgia, have programs that provide funding for college. It's funded by the lottery. A portion of the money people throw away to try and win millions goes to higher education.

Who's dying of preventable diseases? I'd like to see some statistics on that and not just the US but worldwide.

America (and Americans who work) is / are the best! I know it's difficult for you to understand. I travel the world and I see so much in 1st, 2nd and 3rd world countries. We certainly have our problems in the USA but they are farther and fewer between than elsewhere. Plus, as Luminari said already, we've given much more than we've taken from the world.

America is the "land of prosperity". But, it doesn't get handed to you. If you work hard, you can be as successful as you want. We have more innovation in this country that has created countless millionaires. Many of them without a lot of formal education.



posted on Jul, 6 2019 @ 01:20 PM
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originally posted by: LSU2018
a reply to: IAMTAT

I've often wondered the same thing. All the things democrats consider racist are all things attached to their party. Even Donald Trump was a democrat before he grew up. Now he's a racist they say. This is the kind of dumb crap that happens when the parents let the children control them. We have kids in the democrat party controlling the narrative so now the old democrats are shifting their far left views to get in line with the kids. The inmates are running the prison.

But to answer your question, the kids cherry pick what they want to call racist. Look at Kaepernick, I've always been told never to trust someone who's eyes are real close together.




Just like you should never click on a listed item
for sale which has a flame next to the title,
I never listen to anything being spouted from anyone
who shows a flame, or nuclear reaction, or even a diagram,
inside their head.

That’s asking for problems.

Seinfeld’s eyes are probably closer, and I never liked him.

# 1043



posted on Jul, 6 2019 @ 04:35 PM
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originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: IAMTAT
In so many words, member Lumenari asked this interesting question, earlier...and I thought it was worth putting to a thread to discuss.

The Democrat Party is historically the party of slavery and the KKK.
Clearly, the Democrat Party name remains a symbol of historical racism, slavery, bigotry, and violence.

This remains fact...regardless of standard convoluted, contemporary Leftist excuses and explanations to the contrary.

The Left is currently crusading to rename schools, sports teams, streets, parks, buildings, etc., due to their perceived association with major US historical figures and events they connect to historical US racism and bigotry.

Additionally, they are also destroying, and banning flags and statues they feel are associated with America's history of slavery and racism.


So...the questions remain...

WHY are Leftists NOT addressing their own 'Donkey' In The Room?

WHY have Leftists been completely ignoring the fact that the Democrat Party name is historically synonymous with institutional slavery and racism?

WHERE is the Left's crusade to rename the Democrat Party, for which so many of them vote and enthusiastically support?

Serious questions.


Why haven't Americans demanded that the country change its racist name?

America has historically been the country of slavery and the KKK.
Clearly, the American name remains a symbol of historical racism, slavery, bigotry, and violence.

This remains fact...regardless of standard convoluted excuses and explanations to the contrary.

Americans are currently crusading to rename schools, sports teams, streets, parks, buildings, etc., due to their perceived association with major US historical figures and events they connect to historical US racism and bigotry.

Additionally, they are also destroying, and banning flags and statues they feel are associated with America's history of slavery and racism.

So...the questions remain...

WHY are Americans NOT addressing their own 'blind insane wounded eagle' In The Room?

WHY have Americans been completely ignoring the fact that they are historically synonymous with institutional slavery and racism?

WHERE is the 's crusade to rename the United States, for which so many of them vote and enthusiastically support?

Serious questions... nah. Just ravings reverberating around the echo chamber.




So wrong on so many levels but that's ok I get it. For instance the Revolutionary war was fought because we no longer wanted slavery and the British demanded it. When we were set up originally it was designed to be free of slavery after 20 years. The Civil war was fought because several states wanted to succeed from the union because of well slavery it is even in their address to congress in regards to why they were succeeded from the union. So the Revolutionary war was fought to free the slaves and the civil war was fought to free the slaves when several states refused to follow the plan. Go look it up.



posted on Jul, 7 2019 @ 07:16 PM
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originally posted by: LSU2018

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: IAMTAT
In so many words, member Lumenari asked this interesting question, earlier...and I thought it was worth putting to a thread to discuss.

The Democrat Party is historically the party of slavery and the KKK.
Clearly, the Democrat Party name remains a symbol of historical racism, slavery, bigotry, and violence.

This remains fact...regardless of standard convoluted, contemporary Leftist excuses and explanations to the contrary.

The Left is currently crusading to rename schools, sports teams, streets, parks, buildings, etc., due to their perceived association with major US historical figures and events they connect to historical US racism and bigotry.

Additionally, they are also destroying, and banning flags and statues they feel are associated with America's history of slavery and racism.


So...the questions remain...

WHY are Leftists NOT addressing their own 'Donkey' In The Room?

WHY have Leftists been completely ignoring the fact that the Democrat Party name is historically synonymous with institutional slavery and racism?

WHERE is the Left's crusade to rename the Democrat Party, for which so many of them vote and enthusiastically support?

Serious questions.



America has historically been the country of slavery and the KKK.



And Nazis. You forgot that we're all Nazis, too. And Russian spies, you forgot that we're all Russian spies, too. And Hitler, you forgot that we're all Hitler, too. In fact, just like slavery, Russia, Hitler, and the Nazis were all started right here in the good ol U S of A. Nobody had ever heard of any of that until America formed it all.


America was rather late in abolishing slavery, compared with the rest of the world.

The KKK was American really a US 'thing'.

All the other stuff you wrote was nonsense.



posted on Jul, 7 2019 @ 08:15 PM
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originally posted by: Lumenari
a reply to: chr0naut

Guess you missed the point that we ended slavery as well..


Yes, you ended slavery... eventually.


In fact, we started a whole new political party called the Republican party to do that.


No, the earliest abolitionist party was the Whig party, to which Abraham Lincoln belonged. The Whig party was disbanded and Lincoln joined the then newly formed Republican party, however, for his second term, Lincoln joined a new party called the National Union Party, which was an attempt to incorporate the existing Democratic and Republican parties.


We freed them from Democratic slave owners.



I thought it also had to do with North/South state politics, too.


Nope.. I'm fine with the name America.

It has given the world a lot more than we have taken from it.


That's arguable.


SoOo... why do you think the Democrats won't change their name?

You know... the topic.




Because slavery was never a policy of the Democratic party. It was a preexisting condition prior to the existence of both the Republican and Democratic parties and there were abolitionist Democratic party members, too.



posted on Jul, 7 2019 @ 08:26 PM
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originally posted by: Lumenari

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: LSU2018
a reply to: blueman12

Another one who deflects because he can't answer a simple question.

Why do democrats call American flags, Confederate flags, KKK, Jim Crow, the Betsy Ross flag, etc all racist when every bit of it was founded by the democrat party? Are you aware that democrats were the ones opposed to integration and civil rights in the 60's?

So again, why are these things racist, but not the party who was behind it all?


Are you aware that the Republicans have now "taken up the torch" and, these days, stand for the very things that were the worst of what some Democrats got involved in back in history?



Are you aware of what the word "projection" means?



And what do you mean by back in history?

Last prominent Democratic KKK member was Senator Byrd who died in 2010.

Fast friends with Joe Biden.

Ancient history, right?


What about David Duke, who ran as a Republican candidate for Louisiana in the US senate in 2016. Also a KKK Grand Wizard? He also endorsed Trump saying: "I'm overjoyed to see Donald Trump and most Americans embrace most of the issues that I've championed for years."

Some even less 'ancient' history for you.



posted on Jul, 7 2019 @ 08:29 PM
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originally posted by: Lumenari

originally posted by: LSU2018

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: IAMTAT
In so many words, member Lumenari asked this interesting question, earlier...and I thought it was worth putting to a thread to discuss.

The Democrat Party is historically the party of slavery and the KKK.
Clearly, the Democrat Party name remains a symbol of historical racism, slavery, bigotry, and violence.

This remains fact...regardless of standard convoluted, contemporary Leftist excuses and explanations to the contrary.

The Left is currently crusading to rename schools, sports teams, streets, parks, buildings, etc., due to their perceived association with major US historical figures and events they connect to historical US racism and bigotry.

Additionally, they are also destroying, and banning flags and statues they feel are associated with America's history of slavery and racism.


So...the questions remain...

WHY are Leftists NOT addressing their own 'Donkey' In The Room?

WHY have Leftists been completely ignoring the fact that the Democrat Party name is historically synonymous with institutional slavery and racism?

WHERE is the Left's crusade to rename the Democrat Party, for which so many of them vote and enthusiastically support?

Serious questions.




America has historically been the country of slavery and the KKK.



And Nazis. You forgot that we're all Nazis, too. And Russian spies, you forgot that we're all Russian spies, too. And Hitler, you forgot that we're all Hitler, too. In fact, just like slavery, Russia, Hitler, and the Nazis were all started right here in the good ol U S of A. Nobody had ever heard of any of that until America formed it all.


He's just upset that New Zealand has always been known for giving the world... erm...

Well, it's not really known for anything good or bad, actually.

Because it doesn't matter.




What about nuclear science and atomic theory?

Have a look where Ernest Rutherford was from.



posted on Jul, 7 2019 @ 08:31 PM
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originally posted by: IAMTAT

originally posted by: Lumenari

originally posted by: LSU2018

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: IAMTAT
In so many words, member Lumenari asked this interesting question, earlier...and I thought it was worth putting to a thread to discuss.

The Democrat Party is historically the party of slavery and the KKK.
Clearly, the Democrat Party name remains a symbol of historical racism, slavery, bigotry, and violence.

This remains fact...regardless of standard convoluted, contemporary Leftist excuses and explanations to the contrary.

The Left is currently crusading to rename schools, sports teams, streets, parks, buildings, etc., due to their perceived association with major US historical figures and events they connect to historical US racism and bigotry.

Additionally, they are also destroying, and banning flags and statues they feel are associated with America's history of slavery and racism.


So...the questions remain...

WHY are Leftists NOT addressing their own 'Donkey' In The Room?

WHY have Leftists been completely ignoring the fact that the Democrat Party name is historically synonymous with institutional slavery and racism?

WHERE is the Left's crusade to rename the Democrat Party, for which so many of them vote and enthusiastically support?

Serious questions.




America has historically been the country of slavery and the KKK.



And Nazis. You forgot that we're all Nazis, too. And Russian spies, you forgot that we're all Russian spies, too. And Hitler, you forgot that we're all Hitler, too. In fact, just like slavery, Russia, Hitler, and the Nazis were all started right here in the good ol U S of A. Nobody had ever heard of any of that until America formed it all.


He's just upset that New Zealand has always been known for giving the world... erm...

Well, it's not really known for anything good or bad, actually.

Because it doesn't matter.



Lord Of The Rings' was filmed there...So there's that.


They are also doing the new TV series here, too.

Hope it's done right.



posted on Jul, 7 2019 @ 08:32 PM
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It reminds me of the DPRK. Democratic Peoples Republic of Korea.

Yeah, leftists are about as "democratic". I chuckle every time they claim "democratic" process or "democracy".


I think they'd be better off with the USSA Party.

Or Union of Socialist States of America Party.



posted on Jul, 7 2019 @ 08:38 PM
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originally posted by: Edumakated

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: IAMTAT
In so many words, member Lumenari asked this interesting question, earlier...and I thought it was worth putting to a thread to discuss.

The Democrat Party is historically the party of slavery and the KKK.
Clearly, the Democrat Party name remains a symbol of historical racism, slavery, bigotry, and violence.

This remains fact...regardless of standard convoluted, contemporary Leftist excuses and explanations to the contrary.

The Left is currently crusading to rename schools, sports teams, streets, parks, buildings, etc., due to their perceived association with major US historical figures and events they connect to historical US racism and bigotry.

Additionally, they are also destroying, and banning flags and statues they feel are associated with America's history of slavery and racism.


So...the questions remain...

WHY are Leftists NOT addressing their own 'Donkey' In The Room?

WHY have Leftists been completely ignoring the fact that the Democrat Party name is historically synonymous with institutional slavery and racism?

WHERE is the Left's crusade to rename the Democrat Party, for which so many of them vote and enthusiastically support?

Serious questions.


Why haven't Americans demanded that the country change its racist name?

America has historically been the country of slavery and the KKK.
Clearly, the American name remains a symbol of historical racism, slavery, bigotry, and violence.

This remains fact...regardless of standard convoluted excuses and explanations to the contrary.

Americans are currently crusading to rename schools, sports teams, streets, parks, buildings, etc., due to their perceived association with major US historical figures and events they connect to historical US racism and bigotry.

Additionally, they are also destroying, and banning flags and statues they feel are associated with America's history of slavery and racism.

So...the questions remain...

WHY are Americans NOT addressing their own 'blind insane wounded eagle' In The Room?

WHY have Americans been completely ignoring the fact that they are historically synonymous with institutional slavery and racism?

WHERE is the 's crusade to rename the United States, for which so many of them vote and enthusiastically support?

Serious questions... nah. Just ravings reverberating around the echo chamber.




I know you are trying to be witty, but all you did was just further show how stupid the whole "erase history because something happened we don't like by modern standards" movement from the left is...


Perhaps the Republican supporter suggestion that the Democratic party should change its name, is an example of how stupid the whole 'the left are erasing history' accusation from the right is?



posted on Jul, 7 2019 @ 08:54 PM
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you guys are.... uhhh you guys are aware that the democrats are not leftist, right?
like maybe a while ago but that it's now more like the central-right neoliberal hellparty, and that real leftists are aware of this and view the democrats with more suspicion and despair than any of you broad-stroking haters?

come on guys, you all come on like these are your enemies, what happened to KNOWING your enemy? or are you all so lazy and intellectually dishonest that stereotyped pastiche of the wrong people is the very best you can muster? sad.



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