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originally posted by: MickyKnox
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: Grimpachi
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: YouSir
a reply to: Blueracer
Ummm...no...they we're hired on as chaperone's for various underage girl schools...
Aaaaand...given the keys to the city...
But let's jail the guy exposing these fine upstanding child sex groomers...who just happen to be muslim…
Such a fine system...where the perps are rewarded and the ones asking for justice are clapped in irons and made to walk the plank...
Gotta love those wig wearing wonders...who dispense judgement at the whim of political correctness...
YouSir
Conveniently ignoring the fact that they were all jailed for a very long time.
220 years divided by 20 people. Average of 11 years each so how long is Tommy getting for an f'ing video?
For almost getting the child abusers off. Not long enough.
He judge would have let the child abusers off. Robinson has no such power.
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: MickyKnox
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: MickyKnox
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: MickyKnox
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: MickyKnox
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: MickyKnox
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: MickyKnox
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: MickyKnox
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: MickyKnox
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: MickyKnox
Jesus. Weren’t the same charges dismissed only months ago? If so, that’s some legal system you got there.
He was released from prison August last year as the appeal court found technical flaws in how his care has handled. (Basically rushed when it didn't need to be)
He went back to court and was found guilty again.
I don't see anything wrong with that part of our legal system.
Tried twice for the same crime? That flies in the face of human rights.
No it doesn't. It happens all the time.
Not to in countries who care about human rights.
“"No one shall be liable to be tried or punished again in criminal proceedings under the jurisdiction of the same State for an offence for which he or she has already been finally acquitted or convicted in accordance with the law and penal procedure of that State."
But I guess the UK didn’t care about this option provision.
“This optional protocol has been ratified by all EU states except three: Germany, the United Kingdom, and the Netherlands.[10] In those member states, national rules governing double jeopardy may or may not comply with the provision cited above.”
en.m.wikipedia.org...
Double jeopardy laws would never have applied in this case as he wasn't found innocent. The same circumstances could apply in the US.
Oh, for some reason I thought he already went to jail for it.
He did.
He was released on appeal due to flaws in handling of the case.
The case was then retried and he was found guilty again.
At no point has he been found innocent and retried.
Double jeopardy applies also to those who were convicted and did time.
He has never been found innocent so double jeopardy doesn't apply. As already stated he could be retried ln the US in the same circumstances.
en.m.wikipedia.org...
But double jeopardy applies to those who were convicted and served time. He would not have been thrown in jail in the US to begin with.
Was he not convicted the first time?
You have contempt of court in the US as well.
He was was released on appeal pending a possible a retrial. It doesn't make him innocent and it doesn't mean he has served his time.
We can film defendants outside of courthouses and not be jailed for it.
But was he convicted the first time? Why was he in jail?
www.bbc.co.uk...
Explanation here.
We take right to a fair trial quite seriously.
Why was he put in jail?
For contempt of court as already covered.
So he was convicted, served time for the offence.
I will give you the benefit of the doubt that you genuinely just don't understand double jeopardy and suggest you look It up.
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: MickyKnox
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: Grimpachi
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: YouSir
a reply to: Blueracer
Ummm...no...they we're hired on as chaperone's for various underage girl schools...
Aaaaand...given the keys to the city...
But let's jail the guy exposing these fine upstanding child sex groomers...who just happen to be muslim…
Such a fine system...where the perps are rewarded and the ones asking for justice are clapped in irons and made to walk the plank...
Gotta love those wig wearing wonders...who dispense judgement at the whim of political correctness...
YouSir
Conveniently ignoring the fact that they were all jailed for a very long time.
220 years divided by 20 people. Average of 11 years each so how long is Tommy getting for an f'ing video?
For almost getting the child abusers off. Not long enough.
He judge would have let the child abusers off. Robinson has no such power.
If his actions had let to the circumstances where the judge couldn't be satisfied ofa fair trial that would have been entirely the responsibility of Robinson.
originally posted by: MickyKnox
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: MickyKnox
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: MickyKnox
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: MickyKnox
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: MickyKnox
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: MickyKnox
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: MickyKnox
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: MickyKnox
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: MickyKnox
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: MickyKnox
Jesus. Weren’t the same charges dismissed only months ago? If so, that’s some legal system you got there.
He was released from prison August last year as the appeal court found technical flaws in how his care has handled. (Basically rushed when it didn't need to be)
He went back to court and was found guilty again.
I don't see anything wrong with that part of our legal system.
Tried twice for the same crime? That flies in the face of human rights.
No it doesn't. It happens all the time.
Not to in countries who care about human rights.
“"No one shall be liable to be tried or punished again in criminal proceedings under the jurisdiction of the same State for an offence for which he or she has already been finally acquitted or convicted in accordance with the law and penal procedure of that State."
But I guess the UK didn’t care about this option provision.
“This optional protocol has been ratified by all EU states except three: Germany, the United Kingdom, and the Netherlands.[10] In those member states, national rules governing double jeopardy may or may not comply with the provision cited above.”
en.m.wikipedia.org...
Double jeopardy laws would never have applied in this case as he wasn't found innocent. The same circumstances could apply in the US.
Oh, for some reason I thought he already went to jail for it.
He did.
He was released on appeal due to flaws in handling of the case.
The case was then retried and he was found guilty again.
At no point has he been found innocent and retried.
Double jeopardy applies also to those who were convicted and did time.
He has never been found innocent so double jeopardy doesn't apply. As already stated he could be retried ln the US in the same circumstances.
en.m.wikipedia.org...
But double jeopardy applies to those who were convicted and served time. He would not have been thrown in jail in the US to begin with.
Was he not convicted the first time?
You have contempt of court in the US as well.
He was was released on appeal pending a possible a retrial. It doesn't make him innocent and it doesn't mean he has served his time.
We can film defendants outside of courthouses and not be jailed for it.
But was he convicted the first time? Why was he in jail?
www.bbc.co.uk...
Explanation here.
We take right to a fair trial quite seriously.
Why was he put in jail?
For contempt of court as already covered.
So he was convicted, served time for the offence.
I will give you the benefit of the doubt that you genuinely just don't understand double jeopardy and suggest you look It up.
You believe a man who was already convicted and served time for a crime can be convicted and serve time again for the same crime. I suggest you need a little more reading yourself.
originally posted by: MickyKnox
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: MickyKnox
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: Grimpachi
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: YouSir
a reply to: Blueracer
Ummm...no...they we're hired on as chaperone's for various underage girl schools...
Aaaaand...given the keys to the city...
But let's jail the guy exposing these fine upstanding child sex groomers...who just happen to be muslim…
Such a fine system...where the perps are rewarded and the ones asking for justice are clapped in irons and made to walk the plank...
Gotta love those wig wearing wonders...who dispense judgement at the whim of political correctness...
YouSir
Conveniently ignoring the fact that they were all jailed for a very long time.
220 years divided by 20 people. Average of 11 years each so how long is Tommy getting for an f'ing video?
For almost getting the child abusers off. Not long enough.
He judge would have let the child abusers off. Robinson has no such power.
If his actions had let to the circumstances where the judge couldn't be satisfied ofa fair trial that would have been entirely the responsibility of Robinson.
That’s right. The judge would let them off.
originally posted by: bobs_uruncle
a reply to: gortex
There is more than one entrance to a court building and certainly, it is the responsibility of the Court and police to provide safe and expedient entry to the court. Outside the court is a public place and was full of reporters of a liberal bias. These liberal type reporters towing the party line were not impeded, only Robinson was. Seems like a bit of selective enforcement.
Just playing "devils advocate" here as the situation in the uk seems pretty crazy. They certainly appear to have thought crime laws, no freedom of speech, d-listing on any subject the government doesn't want public like parliament member paedophilia, etc.
Cheers - Dave
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: MickyKnox
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: MickyKnox
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: MickyKnox
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: MickyKnox
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: MickyKnox
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: MickyKnox
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: MickyKnox
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: MickyKnox
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: MickyKnox
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: MickyKnox
Jesus. Weren’t the same charges dismissed only months ago? If so, that’s some legal system you got there.
He was released from prison August last year as the appeal court found technical flaws in how his care has handled. (Basically rushed when it didn't need to be)
He went back to court and was found guilty again.
I don't see anything wrong with that part of our legal system.
Tried twice for the same crime? That flies in the face of human rights.
No it doesn't. It happens all the time.
Not to in countries who care about human rights.
“"No one shall be liable to be tried or punished again in criminal proceedings under the jurisdiction of the same State for an offence for which he or she has already been finally acquitted or convicted in accordance with the law and penal procedure of that State."
But I guess the UK didn’t care about this option provision.
“This optional protocol has been ratified by all EU states except three: Germany, the United Kingdom, and the Netherlands.[10] In those member states, national rules governing double jeopardy may or may not comply with the provision cited above.”
en.m.wikipedia.org...
Double jeopardy laws would never have applied in this case as he wasn't found innocent. The same circumstances could apply in the US.
Oh, for some reason I thought he already went to jail for it.
He did.
He was released on appeal due to flaws in handling of the case.
The case was then retried and he was found guilty again.
At no point has he been found innocent and retried.
Double jeopardy applies also to those who were convicted and did time.
He has never been found innocent so double jeopardy doesn't apply. As already stated he could be retried ln the US in the same circumstances.
en.m.wikipedia.org...
But double jeopardy applies to those who were convicted and served time. He would not have been thrown in jail in the US to begin with.
Was he not convicted the first time?
You have contempt of court in the US as well.
He was was released on appeal pending a possible a retrial. It doesn't make him innocent and it doesn't mean he has served his time.
We can film defendants outside of courthouses and not be jailed for it.
But was he convicted the first time? Why was he in jail?
www.bbc.co.uk...
Explanation here.
We take right to a fair trial quite seriously.
Why was he put in jail?
For contempt of court as already covered.
So he was convicted, served time for the offence.
I will give you the benefit of the doubt that you genuinely just don't understand double jeopardy and suggest you look It up.
You believe a man who was already convicted and served time for a crime can be convicted and serve time again for the same crime. I suggest you need a little more reading yourself.
So really you don't understand it.
Guess you are right and I (along with every court system.in the world) am wrong.
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: MickyKnox
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: MickyKnox
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: Grimpachi
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: YouSir
a reply to: Blueracer
Ummm...no...they we're hired on as chaperone's for various underage girl schools...
Aaaaand...given the keys to the city...
But let's jail the guy exposing these fine upstanding child sex groomers...who just happen to be muslim…
Such a fine system...where the perps are rewarded and the ones asking for justice are clapped in irons and made to walk the plank...
Gotta love those wig wearing wonders...who dispense judgement at the whim of political correctness...
YouSir
Conveniently ignoring the fact that they were all jailed for a very long time.
220 years divided by 20 people. Average of 11 years each so how long is Tommy getting for an f'ing video?
For almost getting the child abusers off. Not long enough.
He judge would have let the child abusers off. Robinson has no such power.
If his actions had let to the circumstances where the judge couldn't be satisfied ofa fair trial that would have been entirely the responsibility of Robinson.
That’s right. The judge would let them off.
Don't you believe in the right to a fair trial?
Guess you are right and I (along with every court system.in the world) am wrong.
originally posted by: MickyKnox
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: MickyKnox
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: MickyKnox
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: MickyKnox
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: MickyKnox
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: MickyKnox
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: MickyKnox
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: MickyKnox
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: MickyKnox
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: MickyKnox
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: MickyKnox
Jesus. Weren’t the same charges dismissed only months ago? If so, that’s some legal system you got there.
He was released from prison August last year as the appeal court found technical flaws in how his care has handled. (Basically rushed when it didn't need to be)
He went back to court and was found guilty again.
I don't see anything wrong with that part of our legal system.
Tried twice for the same crime? That flies in the face of human rights.
No it doesn't. It happens all the time.
Not to in countries who care about human rights.
“"No one shall be liable to be tried or punished again in criminal proceedings under the jurisdiction of the same State for an offence for which he or she has already been finally acquitted or convicted in accordance with the law and penal procedure of that State."
But I guess the UK didn’t care about this option provision.
“This optional protocol has been ratified by all EU states except three: Germany, the United Kingdom, and the Netherlands.[10] In those member states, national rules governing double jeopardy may or may not comply with the provision cited above.”
en.m.wikipedia.org...
Double jeopardy laws would never have applied in this case as he wasn't found innocent. The same circumstances could apply in the US.
Oh, for some reason I thought he already went to jail for it.
He did.
He was released on appeal due to flaws in handling of the case.
The case was then retried and he was found guilty again.
At no point has he been found innocent and retried.
Double jeopardy applies also to those who were convicted and did time.
He has never been found innocent so double jeopardy doesn't apply. As already stated he could be retried ln the US in the same circumstances.
en.m.wikipedia.org...
But double jeopardy applies to those who were convicted and served time. He would not have been thrown in jail in the US to begin with.
Was he not convicted the first time?
You have contempt of court in the US as well.
He was was released on appeal pending a possible a retrial. It doesn't make him innocent and it doesn't mean he has served his time.
We can film defendants outside of courthouses and not be jailed for it.
But was he convicted the first time? Why was he in jail?
www.bbc.co.uk...
Explanation here.
We take right to a fair trial quite seriously.
Why was he put in jail?
For contempt of court as already covered.
So he was convicted, served time for the offence.
I will give you the benefit of the doubt that you genuinely just don't understand double jeopardy and suggest you look It up.
You believe a man who was already convicted and served time for a crime can be convicted and serve time again for the same crime. I suggest you need a little more reading yourself.
So really you don't understand it.
Guess you are right and I (along with every court system.in the world) am wrong.
You are wrong. You cannot be punished twice for the same crime in double jeopardy.
Here’s the European Commission disagreeing with you.
“Right not to be tried or punished twice in criminal proceedings for the same criminal offence”
ec.europa.eu... criminal-proceedings-same-criminal-offence_en
originally posted by: MickyKnox
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: MickyKnox
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: MickyKnox
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: MickyKnox
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: MickyKnox
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: MickyKnox
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: MickyKnox
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: MickyKnox
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: MickyKnox
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: MickyKnox
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: MickyKnox
Jesus. Weren’t the same charges dismissed only months ago? If so, that’s some legal system you got there.
He was released from prison August last year as the appeal court found technical flaws in how his care has handled. (Basically rushed when it didn't need to be)
He went back to court and was found guilty again.
I don't see anything wrong with that part of our legal system.
Tried twice for the same crime? That flies in the face of human rights.
No it doesn't. It happens all the time.
Not to in countries who care about human rights.
“"No one shall be liable to be tried or punished again in criminal proceedings under the jurisdiction of the same State for an offence for which he or she has already been finally acquitted or convicted in accordance with the law and penal procedure of that State."
But I guess the UK didn’t care about this option provision.
“This optional protocol has been ratified by all EU states except three: Germany, the United Kingdom, and the Netherlands.[10] In those member states, national rules governing double jeopardy may or may not comply with the provision cited above.”
en.m.wikipedia.org...
Double jeopardy laws would never have applied in this case as he wasn't found innocent. The same circumstances could apply in the US.
Oh, for some reason I thought he already went to jail for it.
He did.
He was released on appeal due to flaws in handling of the case.
The case was then retried and he was found guilty again.
At no point has he been found innocent and retried.
Double jeopardy applies also to those who were convicted and did time.
He has never been found innocent so double jeopardy doesn't apply. As already stated he could be retried ln the US in the same circumstances.
en.m.wikipedia.org...
But double jeopardy applies to those who were convicted and served time. He would not have been thrown in jail in the US to begin with.
Was he not convicted the first time?
You have contempt of court in the US as well.
He was was released on appeal pending a possible a retrial. It doesn't make him innocent and it doesn't mean he has served his time.
We can film defendants outside of courthouses and not be jailed for it.
But was he convicted the first time? Why was he in jail?
www.bbc.co.uk...
Explanation here.
We take right to a fair trial quite seriously.
Why was he put in jail?
For contempt of court as already covered.
So he was convicted, served time for the offence.
I will give you the benefit of the doubt that you genuinely just don't understand double jeopardy and suggest you look It up.
You believe a man who was already convicted and served time for a crime can be convicted and serve time again for the same crime. I suggest you need a little more reading yourself.
So really you don't understand it.
Guess you are right and I (along with every court system.in the world) am wrong.
You are wrong. You cannot be punished twice for the same crime in double jeopardy.
Here’s the European Commission disagreeing with you.
“Right not to be tried or punished twice in criminal proceedings for the same criminal offence”
ec.europa.eu... criminal-proceedings-same-criminal-offence_en
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: MickyKnox
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: MickyKnox
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: MickyKnox
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: MickyKnox
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: MickyKnox
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: MickyKnox
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: MickyKnox
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: MickyKnox
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: MickyKnox
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: MickyKnox
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: MickyKnox
Jesus. Weren’t the same charges dismissed only months ago? If so, that’s some legal system you got there.
He was released from prison August last year as the appeal court found technical flaws in how his care has handled. (Basically rushed when it didn't need to be)
He went back to court and was found guilty again.
I don't see anything wrong with that part of our legal system.
Tried twice for the same crime? That flies in the face of human rights.
No it doesn't. It happens all the time.
Not to in countries who care about human rights.
“"No one shall be liable to be tried or punished again in criminal proceedings under the jurisdiction of the same State for an offence for which he or she has already been finally acquitted or convicted in accordance with the law and penal procedure of that State."
But I guess the UK didn’t care about this option provision.
“This optional protocol has been ratified by all EU states except three: Germany, the United Kingdom, and the Netherlands.[10] In those member states, national rules governing double jeopardy may or may not comply with the provision cited above.”
en.m.wikipedia.org...
Double jeopardy laws would never have applied in this case as he wasn't found innocent. The same circumstances could apply in the US.
Oh, for some reason I thought he already went to jail for it.
He did.
He was released on appeal due to flaws in handling of the case.
The case was then retried and he was found guilty again.
At no point has he been found innocent and retried.
Double jeopardy applies also to those who were convicted and did time.
He has never been found innocent so double jeopardy doesn't apply. As already stated he could be retried ln the US in the same circumstances.
en.m.wikipedia.org...
But double jeopardy applies to those who were convicted and served time. He would not have been thrown in jail in the US to begin with.
Was he not convicted the first time?
You have contempt of court in the US as well.
He was was released on appeal pending a possible a retrial. It doesn't make him innocent and it doesn't mean he has served his time.
We can film defendants outside of courthouses and not be jailed for it.
But was he convicted the first time? Why was he in jail?
www.bbc.co.uk...
Explanation here.
We take right to a fair trial quite seriously.
Why was he put in jail?
For contempt of court as already covered.
So he was convicted, served time for the offence.
I will give you the benefit of the doubt that you genuinely just don't understand double jeopardy and suggest you look It up.
You believe a man who was already convicted and served time for a crime can be convicted and serve time again for the same crime. I suggest you need a little more reading yourself.
So really you don't understand it.
Guess you are right and I (along with every court system.in the world) am wrong.
You are wrong. You cannot be punished twice for the same crime in double jeopardy.
Here’s the European Commission disagreeing with you.
“Right not to be tried or punished twice in criminal proceedings for the same criminal offence”
ec.europa.eu... criminal-proceedings-same-criminal-offence_en
From you own link
No one shall be liable to be tried or punished again in criminal proceedings for an offence for which he or she has already been finally acquitted or convicted within the Union in accordance with the law.
He hasn't been.
Outside the court is a public place and was full of reporters of a liberal bias.
originally posted by: MickyKnox
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: MickyKnox
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: MickyKnox
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: MickyKnox
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: MickyKnox
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: MickyKnox
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: MickyKnox
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: MickyKnox
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: MickyKnox
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: MickyKnox
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: MickyKnox
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: MickyKnox
Jesus. Weren’t the same charges dismissed only months ago? If so, that’s some legal system you got there.
He was released from prison August last year as the appeal court found technical flaws in how his care has handled. (Basically rushed when it didn't need to be)
He went back to court and was found guilty again.
I don't see anything wrong with that part of our legal system.
Tried twice for the same crime? That flies in the face of human rights.
No it doesn't. It happens all the time.
Not to in countries who care about human rights.
“"No one shall be liable to be tried or punished again in criminal proceedings under the jurisdiction of the same State for an offence for which he or she has already been finally acquitted or convicted in accordance with the law and penal procedure of that State."
But I guess the UK didn’t care about this option provision.
“This optional protocol has been ratified by all EU states except three: Germany, the United Kingdom, and the Netherlands.[10] In those member states, national rules governing double jeopardy may or may not comply with the provision cited above.”
en.m.wikipedia.org...
Double jeopardy laws would never have applied in this case as he wasn't found innocent. The same circumstances could apply in the US.
Oh, for some reason I thought he already went to jail for it.
He did.
He was released on appeal due to flaws in handling of the case.
The case was then retried and he was found guilty again.
At no point has he been found innocent and retried.
Double jeopardy applies also to those who were convicted and did time.
He has never been found innocent so double jeopardy doesn't apply. As already stated he could be retried ln the US in the same circumstances.
en.m.wikipedia.org...
But double jeopardy applies to those who were convicted and served time. He would not have been thrown in jail in the US to begin with.
Was he not convicted the first time?
You have contempt of court in the US as well.
He was was released on appeal pending a possible a retrial. It doesn't make him innocent and it doesn't mean he has served his time.
We can film defendants outside of courthouses and not be jailed for it.
But was he convicted the first time? Why was he in jail?
www.bbc.co.uk...
Explanation here.
We take right to a fair trial quite seriously.
Why was he put in jail?
For contempt of court as already covered.
So he was convicted, served time for the offence.
I will give you the benefit of the doubt that you genuinely just don't understand double jeopardy and suggest you look It up.
You believe a man who was already convicted and served time for a crime can be convicted and serve time again for the same crime. I suggest you need a little more reading yourself.
So really you don't understand it.
Guess you are right and I (along with every court system.in the world) am wrong.
You are wrong. You cannot be punished twice for the same crime in double jeopardy.
Here’s the European Commission disagreeing with you.
“Right not to be tried or punished twice in criminal proceedings for the same criminal offence”
ec.europa.eu... criminal-proceedings-same-criminal-offence_en
From you own link
No one shall be liable to be tried or punished again in criminal proceedings for an offence for which he or she has already been finally acquitted or convicted within the Union in accordance with the law.
He hasn't been.
That’s why I asked if he was convicted. If he wasn’t convicted of contempt of court, he was jailed for what reason exactly?
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: MickyKnox
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: MickyKnox
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: MickyKnox
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: MickyKnox
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: MickyKnox
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: MickyKnox
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: MickyKnox
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: MickyKnox
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: MickyKnox
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: MickyKnox
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: MickyKnox
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: MickyKnox
Jesus. Weren’t the same charges dismissed only months ago? If so, that’s some legal system you got there.
He was released from prison August last year as the appeal court found technical flaws in how his care has handled. (Basically rushed when it didn't need to be)
He went back to court and was found guilty again.
I don't see anything wrong with that part of our legal system.
Tried twice for the same crime? That flies in the face of human rights.
No it doesn't. It happens all the time.
Not to in countries who care about human rights.
“"No one shall be liable to be tried or punished again in criminal proceedings under the jurisdiction of the same State for an offence for which he or she has already been finally acquitted or convicted in accordance with the law and penal procedure of that State."
But I guess the UK didn’t care about this option provision.
“This optional protocol has been ratified by all EU states except three: Germany, the United Kingdom, and the Netherlands.[10] In those member states, national rules governing double jeopardy may or may not comply with the provision cited above.”
en.m.wikipedia.org...
Double jeopardy laws would never have applied in this case as he wasn't found innocent. The same circumstances could apply in the US.
Oh, for some reason I thought he already went to jail for it.
He did.
He was released on appeal due to flaws in handling of the case.
The case was then retried and he was found guilty again.
At no point has he been found innocent and retried.
Double jeopardy applies also to those who were convicted and did time.
He has never been found innocent so double jeopardy doesn't apply. As already stated he could be retried ln the US in the same circumstances.
en.m.wikipedia.org...
But double jeopardy applies to those who were convicted and served time. He would not have been thrown in jail in the US to begin with.
Was he not convicted the first time?
You have contempt of court in the US as well.
He was was released on appeal pending a possible a retrial. It doesn't make him innocent and it doesn't mean he has served his time.
We can film defendants outside of courthouses and not be jailed for it.
But was he convicted the first time? Why was he in jail?
www.bbc.co.uk...
Explanation here.
We take right to a fair trial quite seriously.
Why was he put in jail?
For contempt of court as already covered.
So he was convicted, served time for the offence.
I will give you the benefit of the doubt that you genuinely just don't understand double jeopardy and suggest you look It up.
You believe a man who was already convicted and served time for a crime can be convicted and serve time again for the same crime. I suggest you need a little more reading yourself.
So really you don't understand it.
Guess you are right and I (along with every court system.in the world) am wrong.
You are wrong. You cannot be punished twice for the same crime in double jeopardy.
Here’s the European Commission disagreeing with you.
“Right not to be tried or punished twice in criminal proceedings for the same criminal offence”
ec.europa.eu... criminal-proceedings-same-criminal-offence_en
From you own link
No one shall be liable to be tried or punished again in criminal proceedings for an offence for which he or she has already been finally acquitted or convicted within the Union in accordance with the law.
He hasn't been.
That’s why I asked if he was convicted. If he wasn’t convicted of contempt of court, he was jailed for what reason exactly?
This has been covered multiple times now. Clearly you are either incapable or unwilling to understand a fairly concept and I have no intention of participating in you derailing of this thread any further.
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: bobs_uruncle
a reply to: gortex
There is more than one entrance to a court building and certainly, it is the responsibility of the Court and police to provide safe and expedient entry to the court. Outside the court is a public place and was full of reporters of a liberal bias. These liberal type reporters towing the party line were not impeded, only Robinson was. Seems like a bit of selective enforcement.
Just playing "devils advocate" here as the situation in the uk seems pretty crazy. They certainly appear to have thought crime laws, no freedom of speech, d-listing on any subject the government doesn't want public like parliament member paedophilia, etc.
Cheers - Dave
The other media not breaking the reporting restrictions might have something to do with it.
originally posted by: MickyKnox
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: MickyKnox
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: MickyKnox
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: MickyKnox
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: MickyKnox
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: MickyKnox
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: MickyKnox
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: MickyKnox
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: MickyKnox
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: MickyKnox
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: MickyKnox
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: MickyKnox
originally posted by: ScepticScot
originally posted by: MickyKnox
Jesus. Weren’t the same charges dismissed only months ago? If so, that’s some legal system you got there.
He was released from prison August last year as the appeal court found technical flaws in how his care has handled. (Basically rushed when it didn't need to be)
He went back to court and was found guilty again.
I don't see anything wrong with that part of our legal system.
Tried twice for the same crime? That flies in the face of human rights.
No it doesn't. It happens all the time.
Not to in countries who care about human rights.
“"No one shall be liable to be tried or punished again in criminal proceedings under the jurisdiction of the same State for an offence for which he or she has already been finally acquitted or convicted in accordance with the law and penal procedure of that State."
But I guess the UK didn’t care about this option provision.
“This optional protocol has been ratified by all EU states except three: Germany, the United Kingdom, and the Netherlands.[10] In those member states, national rules governing double jeopardy may or may not comply with the provision cited above.”
en.m.wikipedia.org...
Double jeopardy laws would never have applied in this case as he wasn't found innocent. The same circumstances could apply in the US.
Oh, for some reason I thought he already went to jail for it.
He did.
He was released on appeal due to flaws in handling of the case.
The case was then retried and he was found guilty again.
At no point has he been found innocent and retried.
Double jeopardy applies also to those who were convicted and did time.
He has never been found innocent so double jeopardy doesn't apply. As already stated he could be retried ln the US in the same circumstances.
en.m.wikipedia.org...
But double jeopardy applies to those who were convicted and served time. He would not have been thrown in jail in the US to begin with.
Was he not convicted the first time?
You have contempt of court in the US as well.
He was was released on appeal pending a possible a retrial. It doesn't make him innocent and it doesn't mean he has served his time.
We can film defendants outside of courthouses and not be jailed for it.
But was he convicted the first time? Why was he in jail?
www.bbc.co.uk...
Explanation here.
We take right to a fair trial quite seriously.
Why was he put in jail?
For contempt of court as already covered.
So he was convicted, served time for the offence.
I will give you the benefit of the doubt that you genuinely just don't understand double jeopardy and suggest you look It up.
You believe a man who was already convicted and served time for a crime can be convicted and serve time again for the same crime. I suggest you need a little more reading yourself.
So really you don't understand it.
Guess you are right and I (along with every court system.in the world) am wrong.
You are wrong. You cannot be punished twice for the same crime in double jeopardy.
Here’s the European Commission disagreeing with you.
“Right not to be tried or punished twice in criminal proceedings for the same criminal offence”
ec.europa.eu... criminal-proceedings-same-criminal-offence_en
From you own link
No one shall be liable to be tried or punished again in criminal proceedings for an offence for which he or she has already been finally acquitted or convicted within the Union in accordance with the law.
He hasn't been.
That’s why I asked if he was convicted. If he wasn’t convicted of contempt of court, he was jailed for what reason exactly?
This has been covered multiple times now. Clearly you are either incapable or unwilling to understand a fairly concept and I have no intention of participating in you derailing of this thread any further.
I get it. It’s tough being thoroughly refuted again and again.
But if Robinson was convicted and punished for a crime once, it is double jeopardy if he was convicted and punished again for the same crime.