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EU Commission President nomination tomorrow. Timmermans frontrunner getting German support

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posted on Jul, 1 2019 @ 09:28 AM
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EU leaders are deeply divided over who should succeed European Commission President Jean-Claude Juncker. More than 18 hours of talks in Brussels have failed to reach a breakthrough.

EU Council President Donald Tusk, who is leading the talks, said leaders would reconvene on Tuesday.

The impasse is centered on the nominee to succeed outgoing Commission President Jean-Claude Juncker. This requires the approval of 21 of the 28 EU leaders, representing 65% of the bloc's population.

Once EU leaders nominate candidates, these must be approved by the European Parliament.

Current European Commission vice-president Frans Timmermans of the Netherlands, who was the Progressive Alliance of Socialists & Democrats' (S&D) lead candidate in May's European elections, was rumored to be the favorite in the race to succeed Juncker as president of the Commission.

www.dw.com...




Strong words of Timmermans on Climate Change.


The Green party in Germany scored second in the recent EU elections, as unexpected vote of the young generation Germans who preferred a planetary topic to save the planet over homegrown political wrangling issues. The Green party is ranking first in polls after the elections. With Germany being the most decisive supporter of Timmermans preferring him over the German candidate Manfred Weber, will the Climate Change top the agenda of the next EU commission president?

The social issues, the unemployed youths, are strongly defended by Timmermans as well.

One example of possible action to combine the both agendas could be,
the millions unemployed educated young people could be offered to work on Global Warming issues...


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posted on Jul, 1 2019 @ 09:43 AM
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a reply to: 2012newstart

So the elites are going to pick another elite (no vote for the unwashed masses), who will ensure the elite get even richer. (carbon tax #1 issue)

How awesome.



posted on Jul, 1 2019 @ 10:00 AM
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originally posted by: stosh64
So the elites are going to pick another elite (no vote for the unwashed masses),


He's Dutch. Surely that counts for something? He's left-wing and pro Europeanisation, so will doubtlessly carry the federalisation banner high, which is of course his purpose. Hopefully the UK won't be part of the racket for much longer.



posted on Jul, 1 2019 @ 10:03 AM
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Timmermans is one of the worst elites you can find. He comes from around here. I met hem a couple of times years back at debates when I was up for election myself. He is extremely arrogant. He claims to be moraly better then everybode else. He LOVES to talkk about himself. I already loathe the EU, he will just make it worse.
He would be a leftwing nut in the US Democrat party.

I hope we get a more centrist or rightwing president, but elites will elite...

Fun fact: there were referendums about the creation of a president in Europe in 2005. The Netherlands and France said ‘no’. Many polls in other countries said ‘no’. So they cancelled all referendums and our Dutch government ignored the will of the people and signed for it anyway. France did the same.



posted on Jul, 1 2019 @ 10:07 AM
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I don't think so.
Just watch this interview. www.arte.tv...

It is really enough of elitist politicians. it is enough of bureaucracy. It is a time for concrete actions.

We need a person who cares for the workers, for the unemployed kids, for those elderly who spent their entire lives and now rely on the society for living.

We need a person who will respect the rightful demands of the Yellow Vests. As Timmermans said

I didn't believe before EU politicians. Frans makes a difference. A HUGE Difference.
If elected, EU will Never be the same.


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posted on Jul, 1 2019 @ 10:17 AM
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originally posted by: 2012newstart
a reply to: stosh64

I don't think so.
Just watch this interview. www.arte.tv...

It is really enough of elitist politicians. it is enough of bureaucracy. It is a time for concrete actions.

We need a person who cares for the workers, for the unemployed kids, for those elderly who spent their entire lives and now rely on the society for living.

We need a person who will respect the rightful demands of the Yellow Vests. As Timmermans said

I didn't believe before EU politicians. Frans makes a difference. A HUGE Difference.
If elected, EU will Never be the same.



Timmermans will say anything to get elected, do NOT trust this guy.



posted on Jul, 1 2019 @ 10:37 AM
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a reply to: 2012newstart

Dutch politicians are essentially nothing more than "Yes Men" pandering to American, EU and corporate wishes. That is all.

ETA Please notice he is all for taxes in the name of the environment. It's all about the money.
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posted on Jul, 1 2019 @ 10:46 AM
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originally posted by: Goedhardt
He would be a leftwing nut in the US Democrat party..


I don't think the US model is applicable in Europe. And if it works a leftwing person...then let it be so. Why should I follow stereotypes to want someone only because he calls himself conservative? What is the real thing done for the common real people?

EU cannot afford more of the current status quo. Brexit showed it. Yellow vests showed it.

Germany showed it. Germany the biggest EU country voted clearly pro-green. There are issues above the petty partisan fight.
Merkel supports now Timmermans over the German conservative Weber. www.dw.com...

The hottest days on RECORD in Europe happened the last week. What will come the next week, the next month? Well, I do not want to burn out at a stake built up for the whole world by the irresponsible oil companies and their profits. Even the pope told them they must change the source of energy. Hope the responsible from them do that NOW. Enough talks. Enough promises of politicians and nothing done. We will either avert the Global warming or we all die. It is that simple.

Here I see a candidate who says clearly he will ACT not speak. Not only on Global warming but also on social issues. Conservatives...actually care for the rich ones. Not for the unemployed millions of university graduates.

And of course he cannot do all of that ALONE. The whole drive of people should do it. As German youths voted against the political status quo and in favor of saving the planet. Because Enough is Enough.


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posted on Jul, 1 2019 @ 02:22 PM
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Timmermans now is opposed only by Poland, Hungary, Czech and Slovak republics. Because Poland and Hungary run laws that are in contradiction with the EU. As the early retirement of judges in Poland (later reversed).

There is majority votes to elect Timmermans even now, but the EU leaders want to reach near consensus.

The most important issues that should be discussed instead, is how to stop the Global warming before we all die, or how to give job to the young unemployed EU citizens many of whom have university degrees. I really hope the reason will prevail among the 28 member states leaders. Because, at the end of the term of the new EU commission 5 years from now, we would be in a position to either make it or break it. I don't want to contemplate the result of a failed effort to stop the Global warming...It is not a political issue, it is a survival issue.

If we have a repetition of previous years' good talks and nothing done in real, or too little too late, we risk it all. What happened with Paris accord? Nothing! Good words without result.

New energy sources must be introduced asap. They do exist. The people in conspiracy forums know them best. Just look in other threads what Bob Lazar has to say.

So when the pope talks of new energy sources to Oil CEOs it doesn't sound lunatic anymore. They all know it. Then, why don't they do it, now?

I see in Timmermans a very strong will for action. I haven't seen that resolve from EU politician in the last 20 years.

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posted on Jul, 1 2019 @ 02:42 PM
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a reply to: Goedhardt

Hey enne, limbos in the house!



posted on Jul, 2 2019 @ 08:13 AM
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The absurd bargaining between the leaders of states, with impasses resembling middle centuries, makes strongly the case that should be the LAST EU COMMISSION PRESIDENT NOT ELECTED DIRECTLY BY THE EU CITIZENS. Timmermans already said in May he favors a direct vote. Whoever is elected, he should do that change. It is just not real. The Poles don't agree of something, and the whole game changes.

And, whoever is elected (and I am not clairvoyant) he or she MUST BE BOLD ENOUGH TO IMPLEMENT THE GOOD WORDS SAID. Nothing short of that will save the EU.

France rioting whole year not without reasons.

Give FREE ENERGY, dear Eurocrats! That will stop Global Warming and will create a whole new sector of economy that will only increase in future, new jobs and new resources for free.
You all know more than we do, and we all know the information spread online that free energy devices do exist for at least half a century.
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posted on Jul, 2 2019 @ 09:31 AM
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just try calling this ### democracy with a straight face, i dare you
i wonder why we bothered to hold a vote

The French President has now recommened the German Minister of Defense, Ursula von der Leyen for EU Commission head and Lagarde as head for the ECB.
uk.reuters.com... X1FP

I say this much, the usual display of incompetence from von der Leyen might actually do some good for a change.



posted on Jul, 2 2019 @ 01:53 PM
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I respect Ursula von der Leyen. She still has to formulate her program as future EU commission president. I hope major issues like Global warming and shocking unemployment among young graduates, and not only, will be dealt without any further delay. What Timmermans proposed is not something to be left behind only because the political pick turned around. I hope he will retain his position in the commission.

The whole process of election and bargaining is not satisfying for common citizens to say the least.

Yes Ursula may do a good job as coming from outside and change the things to better. EU doesn't have much time for such a change.
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posted on Jul, 2 2019 @ 02:44 PM
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originally posted by: 2012newstart
Yes Ursula may do a good job as coming from outside and change the things to better.


She completely failed in her role in the German defence ministry. No serviceable subs, broken frigates, four of 150 fighters capable of taking off, no recruits.

I guess a failed German politician is good for a top EU job, eh? But hey, she's a personal friend of the German Chancellor, so that's a start.

Proving it's not what you know, it's who you know.
Oh, and she's not from "the outside". She's EU through and through. Her father was part of the EU establishment and so is she.

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posted on Jul, 2 2019 @ 02:46 PM
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originally posted by: 2012newstart
I respect Ursula von der Leyen.

I take it you dont know her then?

She's the embodiment of the Peter Principle. Don't expect anything but a myriad of dealings with consultants.....
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posted on Jul, 2 2019 @ 03:06 PM
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originally posted by: paraphi
She completely failed in her role in the German defence ministry. No serviceable subs, broken frigates, four of 150 fighters capable of taking off, no recruits.

It was basically impossible to screw up the Bundeswehr even more when she took over. But she did it and then some.

Maybe this is unknown to most in Europe but von der Leyen was basically a dead woman walking in German politics. She's beeing propbed for corruption, nepotism and poor management by a special ivestigative committee of the Bundestag.
The entire affair is too complex to go into, but among many other things she had the Defense Ministry make absurd deals with a consultant firm her son works at.

Make no mistake, she's as bad as all the rest .Only thing she's got going for her, she never tried to cash in the woman card. Of course she didn't have to. Her father was Minister President of Lower Saxony. Basically made her career.

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posted on Jul, 2 2019 @ 07:48 PM
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So much critics first for Timmermans and now for Ursula... is it theoretically possible they are so bad?

Why aren't there pinned threads for the EU commission's election? (not mine, I don't really care for that).

How many threads are there for Trump? Because he is so good...

Let me say that, Ursula, Timmermans as vice president, or whoever else in the new commission, have very very little time to change the shift and to return the faith of the people. And I think smart people like them understand that very very well.

One powerful tool will be, open the already LEAKED advanced technology for everyone. Not just free energy. Hire all those unemployed graduates in the field of Climate protection and related. Virtually all industries will need qualified people to make the shift. And I really recommend the first interview of Timmermans in the OP. Including for those who take decisions. Including for Ursula (sure she wouldn't read, but someone might be reading). A HUGE transformation MUST be done (as he said), and not delayed even a month later!

Today's surprising secret meetings of: 1. WH, 2. Putin, 3. europeans, and others, for reasons unknown, come to tell us something very big comes very soon. Not necessarily Iran attack. I don't remember similar meetings to have been announced in MSM when North Korea tested nuclear devices. I dare to think, do those guys seriously consider Disclosure as a mean to avert the worst case scenario.
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posted on Jul, 18 2019 @ 09:25 AM
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As I said already some time ago, the nomination of von Der Leyen will result in persisting EU ungovernability ...
The vote of yesterday proves that with numbers , even though she got the post in the end !



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