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Antifa attacks journalist in Portland

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posted on Jun, 30 2019 @ 05:14 AM
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originally posted by: operation mindcrime
a reply to: gallop

Yeah I get it but this Andy Ngo is not as innocent as the OP is leading you to believe. Those "Proud Boys" we were going on about earlier..

You know, these lovely fellows..



Andy is a "close friend" so to say...he had been warned prior and yet still chooses to go in the name of "objective journalism"...

Now I am all for free speech and anti-violence but this just seems like somebody was deliberatly looking for trouble to proof a point.

And you people buy this stuff...hook, line and sinker.

Peace



Ahh so guilt by association. It's ok to bash someone because he knows someone you don't like.

Not because he has proven himself a threat to you or someone you know, and in order to prevent this, the last resort must be entertained. Nah, just coz...

pathetic...

Say peace more, as you play stupid and innocent but throwing out hints that you're in line with this type of action. 'He dun deserved it, he knew where he dun was goin' dere.. Shulda worna helmut.'

Ps: I don't give a rats ass who he knows. Everyone has a right to the same freedoms provided us, and that includes freedom of association, freedom of speech and freedom to not be physically assaulted whilst being in public.

All I saw was a bunch of neo fascist thugs, given free reign of abuse over the populace, at the behest of a left wing socialist power that is using them as their boots on the ground, for both media clicks and to foster the mindset that this is just how it is.

The punch a nazi game is soon gonna become the you asked for it game.




posted on Jun, 30 2019 @ 05:18 AM
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originally posted by: operation mindcrime
a reply to: gallop

Jesus....what it is with you people comparing apples with oranges.

Is that an actual question if it's a woman's fault if she gets raped?

How did you derive at that conclusion?

Yes you should be free to walk the street without being bashed by a mob. It becomes a completely different thing if I walk in Manchester united clothing into the Leeds stand and expect normal treatment.

Is rational thinking out the window these days?

Peace


Cower in your slippers then, sir soy.. I'll bloody well walk where I want, when I want, and if the pedestrians don't like it, # 'em. It's MY right. And in YOUR world, my rights still trump your sooking.

"Booo hooo hooo, I dun wanna walk there mommy, the meanies will stare at me.."

Love and Light.



posted on Jun, 30 2019 @ 05:47 AM
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Ok I admit it, I am stupid when it comes to the "proud boys" are they not "white nationalist" that is the term correct?

am I wrong?

When did Korean become white? I am so confused now, who am I supposed to hate? is antifa supposed to be unamerican or are they against fascism? I thought atifa was against bigots, rascists and white supremists.

now the group that is against all those things is now, all those things.

I do not believe white natinalists would defend or befriend a Korean, unless there are now blacks in the KKK ( it is a new century and all so I could be wrong) I know some people get to pick their gender, so I supose blacks can identify as white, and be part of the KKK (my hispanic ex-wife does, I know that)

can I identify as a nuclear weapon in public so no one is suprised if I blow up??

yes the blast radius will be Huge, however I have warned you, in writing, so it's all good, now.
edit on 30-6-2019 by thedigirati because: I don't wear a mask, or a cape



posted on Jun, 30 2019 @ 06:00 AM
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originally posted by: operation mindcrime
a reply to: gallop

Yeah I get it but this Andy Ngo is not as innocent as the OP is leading you to believe. Those "Proud Boys" we were going on about earlier..

You know, these lovely fellows..



Andy is a "close friend" so to say...he had been warned prior and yet still chooses to go in the name of "objective journalism"...

Now I am all for free speech and anti-violence but this just seems like somebody was deliberatly looking for trouble to proof a point.

And you people buy this stuff...hook, line and sinker.

Peace



It doesn't matter his affiliations or his political opinions, he is free to hold them.

He should be able to do so without the risk of violence.

Saying that fire should be met with fire, the ANTIFA crowd get away with this kind of behaviour constantly.



posted on Jun, 30 2019 @ 06:03 AM
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originally posted by: thedigirati
Ok I admit it, I am stupid when it comes to the "proud boys" are they not "white nationalist" that is the term correct?

am I wrong?

When did Korean become white? I am so confused now, who am I supposed to hate? is antifa supposed to be unamerican or are they against fascism? I thought atifa was against bigots, rascists and white supremists.

now the group that is against all those things is now, all those things.

I do not believe white natinalists would defend or befriend a Korean, unless there are now blacks in the KKK ( it is a new century and all so I could be wrong) I know some people get to pick their gender, so I supose blacks can identify as white, and be part of the KKK (my hispanic ex-wife does, I know that)

can I identify as a nuclear weapon in public so no one is suprised if I blow up??

yes the blast radius will be Huge, however I have warned you, in writing, so it's all good, now.


Being a Nationalist does not make you racist. I'm white, nationalist, yet manage to treat everyone regardless of race equally. My political opinions do not interfere with my morals.



posted on Jun, 30 2019 @ 06:10 AM
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a reply to: gallop

Guilty by association...I don't know.

As you can understand my Sunday morning has been filled with reading up on this guy. You won't find direct links to groups on the opposite site of Antifa but his reporting is biased...

After leaving the counter-protest, I walked to the Washington Three Percent rally to document the end of its event. I was greeted by the group’s volunteer security, who also held rifles and wore military fatigues, but they smiled at me instead of shoving me out.

it shows how reflexively (and often baselessly) terms such as ‘Nazi’ and ‘white supremacy’ get thrown around. The leadership of the L.A. chapter of Proud Boys is headed by an Asian president and a queer V.P. (they asked that they not be named).

He even says..

I was naive to think that I would be left alone in the unfamiliar environment.

At his last confrontation at the Dec.3th rally. Police asked him to leave because he was antagonising the Antifa crowd and what does he do at the next rally..

I'm not saying he was looking for trouble but it is a bit doubious wouldn't you say?

Peace



posted on Jun, 30 2019 @ 06:34 AM
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I get that people are very clear on the freedom of speech/press etc thing..

Freedom is one of those things that are good in moderation, but that may be dangerous if taken to an extreme.

This guy is taking it to an extreme and when it goes south starts complaining.

To me it all seems a bit like the guy who's in your face saying non-stop "you can't hit me. You can't hit me. You can't hit me"...and when he finally gets punched in the face starts crying about how he was hit in the face.

Not saying that hitting the guy was right but for what reason does he have to come so close to the people he's against and from who he knowns hate him? Surely he is not interested in having an in-depth interview them...

Peace



posted on Jun, 30 2019 @ 06:40 AM
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a reply to: operation mindcrime

You sir, are simply disgusting.



posted on Jun, 30 2019 @ 06:46 AM
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a reply to: Gojira54

Why?

Peace

ETA: one line posts a frowned upon
edit on 30-6-2019 by operation mindcrime because: (no reason given)



posted on Jun, 30 2019 @ 07:05 AM
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originally posted by: Chadwickus
a reply to: Grambler

Ban milkshakes!

The very definition of fascism!


A journalist was beaten up and attacked by violent leftist thugs and that's your response.
Don't complain if and when the inevitable response comes. Don;t want to hear you snivelling about some some leftist journalist who gets put in the hospital, ok?



posted on Jun, 30 2019 @ 07:15 AM
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a reply to: Grenade

I am also white to the point it's my sirname, I even live in the whitehouse.

So proud boys are just anti-antifa, and not like white supremacists. I would guess I am closer to proudboys then antifa.

I really enjoy the other fellow in this thread that feins ignorance, or maybe it truly is ignorance.

His statements are certainly ignorant, but that is the curse of the young. Most have no idea how much they do not know.

when I was young, I didn't fall for "just" causes, but then by age 23 I had been around the world 3 times and had met people from all over the world, some folks I knew intimately.

with age comes expirence, and expirence builds to wisdom, not everyone that gets old is wise, but more folks that are old are wise then young folks.

My father taught me at a very early age that:

"old age and treachery (expirence) will overcome youth and skill, everytime"

which also reminds me of:

"there aint nothing new under the sun"

I think that was Sun Tzu.



posted on Jun, 30 2019 @ 07:33 AM
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Local news will be on in 30 minutes, I’m just curious as to how they’ll spin this.

According to Fox News, 3 arrests have been made.



posted on Jun, 30 2019 @ 07:44 AM
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a reply to: DBCowboy

I saw some of the Video Drudgereport linked to, guys running around with WWII german style helmets (one could say Nazi helmets and be correct) and goggles and masks, I think they were antifa, I could not help but laugh when I saw it. Unless the proudboys are wearing the masks.

Keep us updated on those "violent" proudboys DB. Yelling at people causes so much pain doncha know. (those white bully's)

I hope someone is writing this stuff down , it's awesome. If I had not seen it I would not believe it.😂😂👌🎪🎪🎪
edit on 30-6-2019 by thedigirati because: wrong site atributation



posted on Jun, 30 2019 @ 07:54 AM
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a reply to: thedigirati

From what I understand, the facts are;

Proud Boys staged a march.

Antifa staged a counter-march.

Antifa got violent against (specifically) against a journalist covering Antifa.

Those are the facts, now we’ll see how the spin is different.



posted on Jun, 30 2019 @ 08:05 AM
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a reply to: Grambler

Not even any name, but call them out by the same name that's their own Twit handle -- gay Mexican or Queer Mexican. Crowder's mistake was doing it in a way Maza didn't like ... sort of like MAGA hat kid's mistake was to smile while wearing that hat which made him a sneering racist white kid. Crowder's sin was to use Maza's own Twit handle while being a white conservative.



posted on Jun, 30 2019 @ 08:11 AM
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KPTV reports ( channel 12).....

8 people injured, 3 people hospitalized, 3 cops injured, 3 arrested (Antifa), neither side wants to stop protesting, police used pepper spray, police are investigating the violent assaults.



posted on Jun, 30 2019 @ 08:12 AM
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a reply to: operation mindcrime

Well, look at it this way -- Portland's ANTIFA practically run the city of Portland because they have the tacit approval of the local government. The police stand back and let them get away with all kinds of things, even going so far as to let them block and redirect traffic if they want. They've shut down entire parades over threats of violence because they don't like one of the many groups who were slated to march in said parade. They threatened and attacked an elderly man from out of town because he didn't want to be redirected by their illegal traffic stop (likely he didn't know an alternate route).

Andy Ngo, the journalist in question, simply goes around to where they are and documents what they do. They are very familiar with him, and they don't want him documenting their protests. That's it. That's his big crime. He's no far right-winger. He's simply the light that cockroaches scurry away from. So when he shows up, they harass him trying to make him go away.

Andy in contrast to the local and national press only documents what happens, so ANTIFA doesn't get any cover for what they do. So that's why they surround him so he can't see what's going on, only a wall of them around him. And as you can see, they're getting more determined in their efforts to keep him from documenting what they actually do.



posted on Jun, 30 2019 @ 08:25 AM
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a reply to: ketsuko

Isn't everybody making the mistake of trying to focus on a movement. I know how labeling stuff makes it easy to recognise but what will it bring you?

Antifa, Proud boys...throw them all in jail and tomorrow you'll have a new crowd protesting each other.

Your nextdoor neighbor might deceide tomorrow that enough is enough, pick out some black clothing and join the parade of fools.

It's a movement and somebody once said...don't underestimate the power of stupid people in large numbers.

Everybody is taking this great devision between left and right to an extreme. Tactics are being used to draw eachother out and it's working.

How long will it take before people will be commenting that it was Trump would set the example for treating journalist like Ngo was treated with has many remark about paying for legal fees etc.

You are all being played...or you're playing yourself...haven't figired that one out yet.

Peace



posted on Jun, 30 2019 @ 08:38 AM
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a reply to: operation mindcrime

Yes we are being played

Not you who is making excuses for a journalist being beaten



posted on Jun, 30 2019 @ 08:44 AM
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a reply to: operation mindcrime

You keep thinking like that and someone is (rightfully) gonna get shot.




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