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Progressives and Liberals are forcing moderates to become victims of their own creations...

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posted on Jun, 29 2019 @ 11:27 AM
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originally posted by: EternalSolace
Their creation being the mainstream media.

The ultra progressive and ultra leftist candidates are forcing the moderates further and further to the left. Thus abandoning more of their base, to satisfy the increasingly media hungry progressives.

This is absolutely comical and so obviously true!

The left leaning media are forcing moderate leftists to the extremes to keep up!

Their own creation is destroying them in the process.

I mean... poetic justice at its finest.



No offense but your statement here doesn't make sense

It's either the far left candidates pulling the moderate candidates left, or it's the media. Not both.

The reality is, it's not the media. They have nothing to do with it. They're just covering the reality.

Far left candidates are getting more mainstream support from CITIZENS than ever.

See: Bernie Sanders 2016

The presence of Sanders and Warren, and the massive support they are getting from large parts of the country are forcing the other candidates further left.

More citizens in this country are radicalized on BOTH sides than ever.

If the majority of the Democratic votership (and by majority im talking 51%+) are preferring more extreme candidates, then the moderates will cave and pander to that just to have a chance.

The direction of the Democratic party of the future is further left.

And I'm not saying that as a hope, I'm saying that as a fact. See AOC and the youth movement for Bernie as prime examples.




posted on Jun, 29 2019 @ 11:31 AM
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a reply to: Edumakated

None of my kids are in higher income brackets. They ended up paying more in taxes, not less. Even the son that managed to get himself so hopelessly in the hole trying to live on his own who I ended up throwing what little excess cash to most of the year to.



posted on Jun, 29 2019 @ 11:36 AM
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originally posted by: dawnstar
a reply to: Edumakated

None of my kids are in higher income brackets. They ended up paying more in taxes, not less. Even the son that managed to get himself so hopelessly in the hole trying to live on his own who I ended up throwing what little excess cash to most of the year to.


More in taxes or are you talking refund check wise?

I call total BS on paying more. My refund check was smaller, my actual amount of taxes paid was about 30% less. My wife was 28% less.



posted on Jun, 29 2019 @ 11:42 AM
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originally posted by: dawnstar
a reply to: ausername

Trump has grown the deficit by how much???
The Republican party seems to be behind him all the way. They may have stood for fiscal conservative policies at one time but they are backing fiscal irresponsibilty now.


It really doesn't matter anymore who gets the blame, maybe there are no real fiscal conservatives on either side now.

Look at the numbers...

www.usdebtclock.org...

No one seems to have a real viable plan to deal with it, it's as if it is always the fault of others, or not their problem, keep kicking it down the road, let the next group deal with it in the future.

Maybe this country needs or deserves an accelerated path to destruction under radical far left leadership. Destroyed from within! The godforsaken country, too corrupt, too far gone for redemption?

Empires fall inevitably, they always do!




posted on Jun, 29 2019 @ 12:04 PM
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a reply to: ausername

It ain't gonna matter who is running the show, we were set on this path when Clinton was in office and maybe newt's plan and the changes that the two parties had put into place may have made a difference. I don't think it would have but maybe if they had followed on that course and made a few adjustments it would have help. But the Bush and the warhawks came in and between the wars and the real estate bubble (that I still think was just an attempt to appease local govts who found they had to keep raising local taxes to ridiculous levels to make up the shortfall in the Medicaid fund when Bush shortcahanged them on it) popped well Bush put the final nail into the economy's coffin. Obama inherited an economy on life support. The faith and trust of the American dollar was put into jeopardy and and alternative for a reserve currency was being looked into. Much of our prosperity was due to the standing of that dollar and the place it had as a world currency.
It doesn't matter now weather is is trump or anyone else holding the power now it's all down hill now.



posted on Jun, 29 2019 @ 12:07 PM
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a reply to: bobs_uruncle


Justin Trudeau presented itself as a moderate to get elected.


Itself......LOL, got the pronoun right.



posted on Jun, 29 2019 @ 12:24 PM
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a reply to: dawnstar

But if socialists/leftists get in power in the WH, it will be not downhill, but free fall.



posted on Jun, 29 2019 @ 12:41 PM
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originally posted by: DontTreadOnMe
a reply to: dawnstar

But if socialists/leftists get in power in the WH, it will be not downhill, but free fall.


I have a prediction, if the far left radicals seize power in 2020 investors will begin pulling out of everything. Markets will collapse, businesses, corporations, manufacturing, jobs and wealth will leave the county. What's the point in either staying in business here, or investing here if they're going to tax most of your income? Taxing 70% of nothing? New regulations and restrictions plus much higher taxes will most likely lead to a disaster of biblical proportions. Abandon ship!

Free falling!






posted on Jun, 29 2019 @ 12:50 PM
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a reply to: ausername

And it will be because #OrangeManBad



posted on Jun, 29 2019 @ 12:52 PM
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a reply to: DontTreadOnMe

Wouldn't be anymore freefalling than if the right was to gain enough power to do the things they claim they want to do like end those social welfare programs.
But to be honest the president doesn't really have the kind of power you seem to think he has. There's a few hundred senators and house representatives between him and his dreams come true which is why I would prefer a mixture of moderates from both parties in Congress. The far right and far left are too far away from each other for compromise and it seems that some of the worse laws are written when one party (weather it be dems or republican) hold all the power.



posted on Jun, 29 2019 @ 12:55 PM
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a reply to: dawnstar

I like the current economic status quo of record growth across the board, and the middle class reaping huge rewards.



posted on Jun, 29 2019 @ 09:23 PM
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originally posted by: Lucidparadox

originally posted by: EternalSolace
Their creation being the mainstream media.

The ultra progressive and ultra leftist candidates are forcing the moderates further and further to the left. Thus abandoning more of their base, to satisfy the increasingly media hungry progressives.

This is absolutely comical and so obviously true!

The left leaning media are forcing moderate leftists to the extremes to keep up!

Their own creation is destroying them in the process.

I mean... poetic justice at its finest.



No offense but your statement here doesn't make sense

It's either the far left candidates pulling the moderate candidates left, or it's the media. Not both.

The reality is, it's not the media. They have nothing to do with it. They're just covering the reality.

Far left candidates are getting more mainstream support from CITIZENS than ever.

See: Bernie Sanders 2016

The presence of Sanders and Warren, and the massive support they are getting from large parts of the country are forcing the other candidates further left.

More citizens in this country are radicalized on BOTH sides than ever.

If the majority of the Democratic votership (and by majority im talking 51%+) are preferring more extreme candidates, then the moderates will cave and pander to that just to have a chance.

The direction of the Democratic party of the future is further left.

And I'm not saying that as a hope, I'm saying that as a fact. See AOC and the youth movement for Bernie as prime examples.



It does, but you must be liberal.
edit on 6/29/2019 by EternalSolace because: (no reason given)



posted on Jun, 29 2019 @ 09:52 PM
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a reply to: dawnstar

We had a smaller refund because we took home more every month. *That's* where we saw the refund. It was never taken out of our paychecks to begin with. The government can't pay us back what it never took to begin with. There is a dedicated disinformation campaign out there telling people that if they didn't see a bigger refund, they must not have gotten a cut.

And, of course, if you live in a high tax state, you might have gotten bit on the state end because the deduction for state taxes was capped.



posted on Jun, 29 2019 @ 11:08 PM
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a reply to: ketsuko

Lol. I'd be happy if they could manage to avoid owing at the end of the year. My youngest did manage to get a little back this year, but then he arranged it so they were taking more out of him. My oldest owes and yet he managed to buy a house and was paying interest on the mortgage all year. And quite frankly, the lower your income is, the more likely you are just gonna take the standard deduction. If you are single with no kids, you aren't gonna be able to take advantage of the child tax credit. If you need just about every cent you make just to live day by day, you will probably wait till you are wondering if you ate dying before you see a doctor so you won't be taking advantage of that deduction. Meanwhile I know of at least one person who was living a millionaire if not a billionaire lifestyle who managed to pay no federal taxes. Some of these above average earners are managing to pay less in taxes than my son did and he would have ended up living in his car if it wasn't for me being willing to go without just so i could divert some of my social security check his way.
Don't look my way to make up the shortfall that that nice tax cut created. My sons have finally got their crap together enough that I can finally start thinking about paying off the debt that my husband's funeral expenses created and start saving for my own so I can head out of this world and rest in peace.



posted on Jul, 1 2019 @ 09:33 AM
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For those who have yet to realize truth, mainstream media is not liberal or progressive. It is centrist, moderate, at best. How say? The rich and powerful own mainstream media. Do you really think they are going to promote that which will undermine their power and wealth? LOL




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