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US-Mexico border deaths lower per year under Trump than Obama, data shows

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posted on Jun, 28 2019 @ 06:52 PM
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June 27, 2019 Laura Widener

A media firestorm has surrounded President Donald Trump for his U.S.-Mexico border and immigration policies, but most reports fail to mention that deaths at the southwest border were actually higher under former President Barack Obama.

After several migrants have recently died while crossing the U.S.-Mexico border or in U.S. Border Patrol custody, the media and notable figures in politics have pointed the finger at President Trump, whom they say should be “attacked” for the policies, and more.

However, some of the highest numbers of deaths on the southwest border over the past two decades actually occurred under former Presidents Obama and George W. Bush, according to U.S. Border Patrol data provided to American Military News.
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During Obama’s two-term presidency, from 2008 to 2016, border deaths ranged from 251 to 471 each year. The 471 deaths occurred in 2012, and that is the second highest number of border deaths in the last 20 years.
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US-Mexico border deaths lower per year under Trump than Obama, data shows

The fake left-wing media has been on the attack once again blaming the death of Illegal immigrants, including children which were dragged by their parent/s through several countries, jungles, and deserts. But of course the blame is shifted to POTUS Trump. But the fact is under Obama there were more illegals who died trying to cross the border. Did the left in the U.S. blame Obama for these deaths? Not that I recall. I don't recall protests from the left about "Obama's detention centers" or the increase in deaths of illegals under both of Obama's terms.

Unfortunately, even though adult illegal aliens also die the toll of crossing several countries, and trekking through jungles, forests and deserts children are the most susceptible to succumbing and dying. Even when they receive medical help it is often times too late. But the left in their never ending attacks on POTUS Trump and his administration instead of blaming the parents, the drug cartels, and human traffickers who force children to undergo such large trek, the left blames the deaths on POTUS Trump. Is it POTUS Trump also to blame for parents who leave their children inside their vehicles and die?




posted on Jun, 28 2019 @ 07:00 PM
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a reply to: ElectricUniverse

these are the same folks who were all voting for more border security and more walls just a few years ago. They are idiots. it's just who they are.



posted on Jun, 28 2019 @ 07:03 PM
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They'll just say it's because of Obama policies coming to fruitation 😃


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posted on Jun, 28 2019 @ 07:43 PM
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posted on Jun, 28 2019 @ 07:51 PM
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a reply to: ElectricUniverse

8 years vs 3 years.

So we don't know yet who will have more deaths on their hands.

The article says it ranged from 251 to 471 but that 471 number was just that one year. What was the average?



283 in 2018, according to Border Patrol data.


So one of the years when obama had only 251 deaths that number would be lower than trumps 2018, 283 deaths.

My point is you should at least wait till trumps out of office before you compare stats like this.



posted on Jun, 28 2019 @ 07:53 PM
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a reply to: scraedtosleep

But how come the leftist media weren't losing their minds about it when Obama was president?
Why do they suddenly care now?



posted on Jun, 28 2019 @ 07:59 PM
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posted on Jun, 28 2019 @ 08:06 PM
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a reply to: ElectricUniverse

The chart on that link shows that deaths lowered each year from 2012 at 471 till 2015 at 251.

It rose by 78 during trumps first year to 329. Lowered by 31 the next year and by 15 the next.

Obama's first year it lowered by 13 next year it raised by 35. next year it lowered by 55. Then raised by 10. Then raised by 96. Then lowered by 20.
Then it lowered by 136! Then lowered by another 64 to become the lowest number since 1998!

So when trump took office the death toll was at it's lowest in the last 19 years!
But trump just couldn't keep that number down.


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posted on Jun, 28 2019 @ 08:06 PM
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a reply to: scraedtosleep

Wow, imagine defending Obama because he may have less deaths than Trump.

It's not a competition.

The point is deaths have been happening there for quite some time now and isn't some new phenomenon under the Trump administration.

Where was all the faux-outrage then?
Funny how it's all of a sudden a problem now.


edit on 28-6-2019 by knowledgehunter0986 because: (no reason given)



posted on Jun, 28 2019 @ 08:11 PM
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a reply to: knowledgehunter0986

I'm not defending anyone.

Just stating facts and pointing out that the title of the op is spin.

It says deaths are lower per year but that is not true.

Plus we don't know what the next 1 to 4 years are going to bring .



posted on Jun, 28 2019 @ 08:11 PM
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a reply to: ElectricUniverse

How many children died in border security custody during the Obama Administration? I believe we have 7, so far, under Trump.

How many children did the Obama Administration take from their parents and then lose?



posted on Jun, 28 2019 @ 08:12 PM
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originally posted by: watchitburn
a reply to: scraedtosleep

But how come the leftist media weren't losing their minds about it when Obama was president?
Why do they suddenly care now?


Don't know don't care.

I was just here to bring facts.



posted on Jun, 28 2019 @ 08:24 PM
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It rose by 78 during trumps first year to 329. Lowered by 31 the next year and by 15 the next.


That's a lie.
2016 Obama was still President. Nice try though.

The FACTS show that the number of migrant deaths at the border have dropped each year Trump has been president.



posted on Jun, 28 2019 @ 08:36 PM
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a reply to: xuenchen

So, no children died while in Border Security's custody during the Obama Administration.



posted on Jun, 28 2019 @ 08:37 PM
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a reply to: scraedtosleep

They show the deaths YEAR BY YEAR. So we know that so far more illegal immigrants have died under Obama and Biden's watch than under Trump. That is a fact. Same for the fact that Obama and Biden had more illegal children by themselves in the cages that Obama/Biden build, than under Trump...

The 329 deaths of illegals occurred in 2016, UNDER OBAMA. Trump wasn't POTUS yet. It went down from the first year Trump was POTUS to 298 and then went down again to 283.


edit on 28-6-2019 by ElectricUniverse because: add comment.



posted on Jun, 28 2019 @ 09:04 PM
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a reply to: scraedtosleep

Typical leftist.

Caught lying and disappears. Surprise surprise.



posted on Jun, 28 2019 @ 09:26 PM
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a reply to: watchitburn

I'm not a leftest.

When I'm on ats I'm usually at work.

Anything else silly to say.



posted on Jun, 28 2019 @ 09:33 PM
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a reply to: watchitburn

Your right I messed up that one year.

Does that change the fact that trumps stats are only for two years?

Does it change the fact that 251 is lower than trumps two year number?

I notice no one here is trying to find out why the numbers were higher than the average in 2012-13. Why is that?

Why are you guys even defending the death toll under trump at all.?

471 deaths obama is a murderer!!
298 deaths trump is a good guy trying to do the best he can.
Why not call them both out?

On average since 1998 the death toll at the border has been around 300 per year.

Trumps average will likely be the same. Point is we don't know till he serves his terms.



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