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Nancy Pelosi Caves: Trump Wins Again

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posted on Jun, 27 2019 @ 08:46 PM
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Pelosi caves, progressive Democrats angry, as House passes humanitarian border bill - ABC News

This is what happens when the truth is on your side.

Democrats wouldn't even fund this before. They are content with letting the conditions at the border worsen so that they can use the hardship of others as propaganda for their campaigns; with idiots like AOC staging photo-ops at a detention center/tent city facility.

I'm glad Pelosi caved. This is the right thing to do. Both for those illegals at the border and the American people.




posted on Jun, 27 2019 @ 08:52 PM
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Pelosi seems to have done some thinking about the direction she was going in. I commend her for starting to look more at the whole picture lately. Of course, she still has to put on a show but now she seems to be thinking a tiny bit about the consequences of her actions.

Too bad it went so far, they screwed up the Democratic party with their negativity already, chasing the sensible people away..


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posted on Jun, 27 2019 @ 09:04 PM
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a reply to: projectvxn

I hear ya. You can't make this # up. Mark Pocan, D-Wis., states,"Everyone should be concerned about kids that aren’t given blankets, aren’t given soap, aren’t given toothbrushes. It’s ridiculous,” Then you have this:


Wayfair employees walked off work on Wednesday to protest the company's sale of furniture to a new detention center in Texas intended for detained migrant children.



Just before the walkout, Wayfair's founder offered to donate $100,000 to the Red Cross "to help those in dire need of basic necessities at the border,"

www.cbsnews.com...

Yet, that wasn't good enough for the idiots who walked off the job. The employees wanted Wayfair to stop doing business with companies involved in migrant detention facilities. They could care less about the generous donation that Wayfair made.

So, here we have detention facilities purchasing beds and supplies to help migrant families and their kids, yet Liberals are still pissed off. This humanitarian crisis continues because of this naive attitude.

NEWS FLASH...Illegal immigrants are overwhelming our borders, yet Democrats are doing nothing to stem the flow. Then, detention centers are doing the right thing, by purchasing bed and supplies for these people and it's still not good enough. Why is that?

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posted on Jun, 27 2019 @ 09:13 PM
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Meeting the needs of these people was not in the cards for Democrats and their leftist base.

If not for the modicum of sanity displayed by Pelosi, this would be getting considerably worse. It's a Saul Alinsky tactic. They are trying to overwhelm the system to create a de facto immigration policy without needing the legitimacy of law.


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posted on Jun, 27 2019 @ 09:25 PM
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originally posted by: projectvxn
a reply to: shawmanfromny

Meeting the needs of these people was not in the cards for Democrats and their leftist base.

If not for the modicum of sanity displayed by Pelosi, this would be getting considerably worse. It's a Saul Alinsky tactic. They are trying to overwhelm the system to create a de facto immigration policy without needing the legitimacy of law.


Overload the system and then when it is a total emergency, offer a "Progressive" solution.

Which oddly enough always means a solution that expands the power of government over the citizenry, which then doesn't work, it turns into an emergency and there they are again, offering a solution that expands the power of government...

For the record, the only thing Nancy is doing in my opinion is making sure that Nancy stays in power.

No other motive needed.




posted on Jun, 27 2019 @ 09:34 PM
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For the record, the only thing Nancy is doing in my opinion is making sure that Nancy stays in power.

No other motive needed.


I completely agree. The New Left idiots like AOC, Rashida Tlalb, Ilhan Omar, Eric Swalwell, and Robert Francis O'Rourke, are threatening to take power from Pelosi.

Even with Republicans at her heels Pelosi never had anything to worry about. Today she has everything to worry about.



posted on Jun, 28 2019 @ 01:01 AM
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Pelosi realized that even with the MSM behind them Democrat inaction on the border was looking bad. Especially when the bodies start washing up on the shores of the Rio Grande.

News article

Next thing to happen would be protesters splashing Democrats with vials of blood.
edit on 28-6-2019 by ntech because: (no reason given)



posted on Jun, 28 2019 @ 01:37 AM
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a reply to: Lumenari

Cloward-Piven...



posted on Jun, 28 2019 @ 01:51 AM
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I'm looking at President Trump live in Japan, meeting with world leaders. He just held a Q and A with the press. The international press is so much more respectful than those here in the USA!

Anyway...something big is in the works with one of the countries. We'll know more on Friday evening, U.S. time.

I tried to picture President Joe Biden taking all those questions... I just don't think he's up to it.



posted on Jun, 28 2019 @ 06:03 AM
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You just have to imagine Joe sniffing a little Japanese girl's hair first, to get him in the mood.



posted on Jun, 28 2019 @ 07:03 AM
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originally posted by: projectvxn
Pelosi caves, progressive Democrats angry, as House passes humanitarian border bill - ABC News

This is what happens when the truth is on your side.

Democrats wouldn't even fund this before. They are content with letting the conditions at the border worsen so that they can use the hardship of others as propaganda for their campaigns; with idiots like AOC staging photo-ops at a detention center/tent city facility.

I'm glad Pelosi caved. This is the right thing to do. Both for those illegals at the border and the American people.


We shouldn't be running concentration camps at all, but the Republicans did agree to a 90 day limit on a childs time there, rather than the current indefinite detention, where kids are spending months to years in the camps (and the indefinite stay has been the main point of contention). And that is a very big shift in policy assuming it gets adhered to.


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posted on Jun, 28 2019 @ 07:27 AM
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originally posted by: Aazadan

originally posted by: projectvxn
Pelosi caves, progressive Democrats angry, as House passes humanitarian border bill - ABC News

This is what happens when the truth is on your side.

Democrats wouldn't even fund this before. They are content with letting the conditions at the border worsen so that they can use the hardship of others as propaganda for their campaigns; with idiots like AOC staging photo-ops at a detention center/tent city facility.

I'm glad Pelosi caved. This is the right thing to do. Both for those illegals at the border and the American people.


We shouldn't be running concentration camps at all


concentration camps are where countries put in-house undesirables, criminals and political prisoners en masse.

these are holding facilities for non-citizens who have no right to be in the USA and will be sent back.


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posted on Jun, 28 2019 @ 07:33 AM
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There are no concentration camps. If people don't want to be there they can leave at any time.



posted on Jun, 28 2019 @ 07:51 AM
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Oh not you again.



posted on Jun, 28 2019 @ 07:52 AM
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posted on Jun, 28 2019 @ 07:59 AM
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originally posted by: Aazadan

We shouldn't be running concentration camps at all


Are you for real? Do you understand that people are being held because they BROKE THE LAW? (or their parents broke the law and we cannot have kids running around without parents, that would be irresponsible - just like bringing a kid along when you BREAK THE LAW!)

Here read up, educate yourself, grow some smarts, think for yourself and get back to me. PLEASE, we as country need you for our future - but we need the educated you, not the CNN watching, MSNBC, Nancy Pelosi parrot you are now.

"concentration camp - a place where large numbers of people, especially political prisoners or members of persecuted minorities, are deliberately imprisoned in a relatively small area with inadequate facilities, to provide forced labor or to await mass execution. The term is most strongly associated with the several hundred camps established by the Nazis in Germany and occupied Europe in 1933–45, among the most infamous being Dachau, Belsen, and Auschwitz."



posted on Jun, 28 2019 @ 09:05 AM
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originally posted by: Aazadan

originally posted by: projectvxn
Pelosi caves, progressive Democrats angry, as House passes humanitarian border bill - ABC News

This is what happens when the truth is on your side.

Democrats wouldn't even fund this before. They are content with letting the conditions at the border worsen so that they can use the hardship of others as propaganda for their campaigns; with idiots like AOC staging photo-ops at a detention center/tent city facility.

I'm glad Pelosi caved. This is the right thing to do. Both for those illegals at the border and the American people.


We shouldn't be running concentration camps at all, but the Republicans did agree to a 90 day limit on a childs time there, rather than the current indefinite detention, where kids are spending months to years in the camps (and the indefinite stay has been the main point of contention). And that is a very big shift in policy assuming it gets adhered to.


When I read the words Concentration Camps, I will simply reply with this.



Because anyone using the words for anything in the civilised world today, has no fkn idea.

You are NOT running concentration camps, but detention facilities, and they are there for a reason. Sorry, time to close the gates..



posted on Jun, 28 2019 @ 09:57 AM
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We shouldn't be running concentration camps at all

Can we talk reality for one moment here?

Just for yucks, assume that you are a border patrol agent. You took an oath to uphold immigration law. One night, you are patrolling the border, doing your job, when you spot a man and a young girl crossing the border illegally. You stop them. The man tells you his name is "Juan Gomez" and the little girl looks scared. Juan has nothing to identify himself. He tells you that the little girl's name is "Maria" and she is his daughter. You try to talk to her, but she refuses to say anything. Maria is malnourished, shows signs of physical abuse, and looks scared. Juan is acting nervous. You ask him why he crossed the border illegally, and he replies he is poor and wants asylum.

Now, you have a choice. You can trust the man who you just saw breaking the law won't break any other laws and let him go, which is breaking the law yourself. You can agree he might be seeking asylum and detain him for a hearing. You can refuse to believe him and arrest him. If you follow the law, he must be detained or arrested. What do you do with Maria? She looks scared; is she really his daughter?

You have to detain Juan. Should you take the chance that Maria won't be harmed if you leave her with him in his detention? Do you throw her in the same holding facility along with tens of other adult detainees? Or do you place her in a facility with other children until you can verify Juan is her father and that Juan can stay in the US? Do you just let her go, with no one to help her? You can't find out if she has relatives in the US; she won't talk to you.

That's the reality here. That happens, over and over, hundreds of times a day, lately more like thousands of times a day. There are only so many facilities available, and no money to build any more. There are only so many beds available, and no money to buy any more. Even food is becoming scarce, because there's no money to buy any more. Congress won't give you any money to use, because you didn't leave Maria in an adult detention facility.

It takes time, but three months later you discover that Juan is actually Miguel Gonzalez and this is the third time he has been apprehended. Every time he shows up with a different child pretending to be their father. Juan, aka Miguel, is a child trafficker, and Maria is his latest victim. Had you not detained her, she would have been somewhere right now being abused. That's more reality.

But you're the bad guy, because Maria, whose real name we still don't know, was taken from her kidnapper. All you did was save her life, but you are now demonized because you did so, for no other reason than some clueless kid pretending to be an adult in Congress doesn't understand what a "concentration camp" is.

TheRedneck



posted on Jun, 28 2019 @ 10:04 AM
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You know ... there was a phone interview with one of the local talkers this week. He was talking with Josh Hawley who said DHS, ICE, and other enforcement agencies know there are trafficking rings who recycle children. They take the children over the border into Mexico and give them to asylum seekers to use as their children, and once those kids have served their purpose, they take them back and transport them back into Mexico to repeat the process all over again. These kids are used over and over and make multiple crossings with total strangers in case they're needed as human asylum shields.

soundcloud.com...
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It's at about 3:30 minutes where he talks about it.
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posted on Jun, 28 2019 @ 01:36 PM
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They caved because the health and well being of the these people was more important to them then the politics.

The winners are those that voted yes and the kids at the border. How many repubs and dems voted yes and who were they?

Have any of you actually read the bill?
www.congress.gov...

It's for helping those at the border to be more comfortable. Is that going to cut down on the number coming here or not?
No wall funding at all.

Idk. Doesn't sound like this is what the right has wanted. It does sound like what the left wanted.


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