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AOC The gift that just keeps giving . Busted staging viral photo op.

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posted on Jun, 28 2019 @ 12:40 PM
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a reply to: Sookiechacha

No, you literally can't detain children in the same cells as adults without violating the Eighth Amendment.
law.emory.edu...
Most legal scholars believe that the SCOTUS would declare it Unconstitutional if the kid was under the age of 13 and they're mixed opinions as to whether it will end up becoming illegal for those aged between 13-17 if/when SCOTUS one day hears EJI's arguments.




posted on Jun, 28 2019 @ 12:42 PM
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a reply to: Sookiechacha

Those countries down there have a total population off around 33 million.

What are the 32.5 million that stay there doing ?

Something not right in the head 😎



posted on Jun, 28 2019 @ 12:42 PM
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a reply to: Sookiechacha

Living in a violent home country is not persecution from the governing authority though which is why you claim asylum.

Heck, none of you care about what goes on daily in certain parts of Chicago and it's easily as bad as anything in Central America, so why aren't you traveling there to take in asylum seekers from the South Side?
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posted on Jun, 28 2019 @ 12:42 PM
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originally posted by: Sookiechacha
They are forced from their homes due to violence. They can't return home.

Really? So 100,000 leave and the other hundred million are all dead? Are you claiming every single South American resident qualifies for Asylum?



posted on Jun, 28 2019 @ 12:43 PM
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originally posted by: slapjacks
a reply to: Fallingdown

Perfect example of what's really wrong with America.


good thing it isn't meeting putin ALONE AGAIN at the g-20.....I guess trump needs to get updates on how to F up America from his ole buddy vlad......

meanwhile, back in GOP freaksville....A.O.C. keeps triggering



posted on Jun, 28 2019 @ 12:45 PM
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a reply to: jimmyx

So to you having the highest quality of life in 20 years and the highest wage growth in US history is Fing things up? What would be doing things right ... causing another housing bubble to burst destroying the economy like the Democrats did 10 years ago?



posted on Jun, 28 2019 @ 12:53 PM
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Claiming Trump Is Forcing Them to Commit 'Widespread Violation' of International Law, Asylum Officers Back Lawsuit Against President's Policy www.commondreams.org...


Expressing grave objections to an immigration policy which has forced them to violate international law, U.S. asylum officers filed a federal court brief demanding an end to President Donald Trump's so-called "Remain in Mexico" policy under which asylum seekers have been turned away at the U.S.-Mexico border.

Ordering people who are exercising their legal right to seek asylum to turn back and endure a months-long or years-long wait for their applications to be processed is "fundamentally contrary to the moral fabric of our nation and our international and domestic legal obligations," wrote the American Federation of Government Employees Local 1924, the union which represents asylum officers.


Read the Amicus Brief here: www.documentcloud.org...
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posted on Jun, 28 2019 @ 12:58 PM
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a reply to: Sookiechacha

It's a red herring designed to sway public opinion and slow down enforcement of U.S. Laws 😃



posted on Jun, 28 2019 @ 12:59 PM
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a reply to: OccamsRazor04

I don't know. Do you think starving, terrorized Venezuelans qualify for asylum here? But, we're not talking about South America.


The loved ones they long for are among the thirty-seven thousand currently classified as missing in Mexico. Most are presumed dead. Many of the missing are likely among the quarter of a million to have been murdered or disappeared since 2006, according to the Wall Street Journal.
medium.com...@aidandonovan3/cartels-gangs-and-criminal-syndicates-are-tearing-apart-central-america-f1dde6413663


On November 19, the bodies of sisters Maria Jose and Sofia Alvarado were found dumped in a grave outside the provincial town of Santa Barbara in western Honduras. In a country that has the highest murder rate in the world – in 2012, it registered 90.4 murders per 100 000 population, more than twice that of neighbouring El Salvador and Guatemala – most victims are poor and nameless.
theconversation.com...


More Salvadorans have been killed since the end of the country’s 12-year civil war in 1992, than during the entire conflict which killed an estimated 75,000 people
www.reuters.com...


The Northern Triangle is one of the world’s most violent areas, with drug trafficking, gangs and other actors of organized crime fueling a high regional murder rate. In 2015, a total of 17,422 murders were committed across the Northern Triangle countries. The region is home to around 31 million people, but the violence has been causing a mass exodus of Central Americans trying to illegally enter the United States every year.
www.humanosphere.org...



posted on Jun, 28 2019 @ 01:11 PM
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a reply to: Sookiechacha

Ah, I had missed this news. So... a union in Washington DC is attacking conservative legal policies? Shocking!



posted on Jun, 28 2019 @ 01:20 PM
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a reply to: Sookiechacha

If they aren't being specifically targeted for open persecution by their government, no, they do not qualify.

Just because you have a craptastic government that mismanages your country so badly that you're starving and chaos reigns in the streets does not qualify you for asylum.

When the Nazis were openly rounding up and shipping Jews off to be killed and worked to death for no other reason than that they were Jews ... that would qualify you for asylum *if* you were Jewish. When the Turks were rounding up and slaughtering Armenians for being Armenian ... that would qualify *if* you were Armenian and fleeing the area of the genocide. When the Hutus went out to butcher the Tutsis, a Tutsi could claim asylum instead of having to go back into that.

But when bad policies of Nicholas Maduro are wholly impersonal and don't care what kind of Venezuelan you are. We do not grant asylum to entire nations. There are enough people there to band together and fix the mess if they really wanted to.



posted on Jun, 28 2019 @ 01:20 PM
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a reply to: Sookiechacha

So Venezuela is not South America? So every Venezuelan qualifies for Asylum? We need to take in all 32 million? Or are they all dead already and it's an empty country? They can't go to any other country except the US? Every country along the way is also so bad no one can live there?



posted on Jun, 28 2019 @ 01:23 PM
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a reply to: OccamsRazor04

You know ... the US is just the crazy cat hoarder of the whole world and California is the dumping ground. Nevermind that it now has typhus, typhoid, tent cities, feces maps you can download as iPhone apps, and all manner of other third world issues, we need to take in more!

Pretty soon, they'll be stepping over the corpses just like a cat hoarder does.



posted on Jun, 28 2019 @ 01:35 PM
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a reply to: ketsuko

I finally found what caused AOC to cry.


This is the migrant camp she visited.


Oh wait, nevermind, that is the camp San Diego set up for US citizens.



posted on Jun, 28 2019 @ 01:43 PM
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originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
a reply to: Sookiechacha

So Venezuela is not South America? So every Venezuelan qualifies for Asylum? We need to take in all 32 million? Or are they all dead already and it's an empty country? They can't go to any other country except the US? Every country along the way is also so bad no one can live there?


How many of those presenting themselves, or attempting to present themselves, at the southern border are from Venezuela? Like I said, the current issue with migrants isn't about South America. It's about Central America, and Central America is suffering globally record breaking violence.
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posted on Jun, 28 2019 @ 01:51 PM
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First, an asylum applicant must establish that he or she has a well-founded fear of persecution in his/her home country.

Secondly, the applicant must prove that the persecution is due to one of five protected grounds: race, religion, nationality, political opinion, and/or membership in a social group. An applicant may qualify for one or more of these grounds. For example, an LGBTI applicant may be applying based on persecution both for being a member of a sexual minority group and for political activist work.

Third, an applicant must establish that the government is either involved in the persecution, or unable to control the conduct of private actors.
www.quora.com...

My father's family received refugee status because they owned a newspaper, in Columbia, that printed stories about cartel crimes. The cartel bombed the newspaper building and their bookstore. For them, their political opinion made them targets. I'm sure it's the same for many El Salvadorians, Guatemalans, Hondurans and Mexicans and they would fall in the same category, if they could afford legal representation.


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posted on Jun, 28 2019 @ 01:51 PM
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So we need to take in every single Central American? Are 90% of the ones who did not flee dead already? Is it just a wasteland with no people left?

Whole countries can just move to America 30 million at a time?



posted on Jun, 28 2019 @ 01:52 PM
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originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: Sookiechacha

If they aren't being specifically targeted for open persecution by their government, no, they do not qualify.

Just because you have a craptastic government that mismanages your country so badly that you're starving and chaos reigns in the streets does not qualify you for asylum.

When the Nazis were openly rounding up and shipping Jews off to be killed and worked to death for no other reason than that they were Jews ... that would qualify you for asylum *if* you were Jewish. When the Turks were rounding up and slaughtering Armenians for being Armenian ... that would qualify *if* you were Armenian and fleeing the area of the genocide. When the Hutus went out to butcher the Tutsis, a Tutsi could claim asylum instead of having to go back into that.

But when bad policies of Nicholas Maduro are wholly impersonal and don't care what kind of Venezuelan you are. We do not grant asylum to entire nations. There are enough people there to band together and fix the mess if they really wanted to.


Every leftist on this site believes that there is ONE, and ONLY one, qualifier for ‘asylum’ and that is:

If you don’t currently live in the USA, but you want to live in the USA, you qualify for asylum.

Unless you’re white, of course.



posted on Jun, 28 2019 @ 01:55 PM
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a reply to: OccamsRazor04

Who is going to stand guard at the border gate and judge asylum eligibility based on appearance or national origin of those presenting themselves for consideration, without hearing their case? You? How do you determine who can apply for asylum and who can't?



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