NASA ordered lightweight semi-auto rifles

originally posted by: theatreboy

originally posted by: dfnj2015
a reply to: Wojwoda

It makes no sense. Obviously if we meet any extraterrestrials they would be so much more advanced our weapons will be useless.

Why does everyone think that they would be more advanced than us?

Well considering we have sent only few people as far as the moon, any race capable of sending themselves solar system distances would obviously be more advanced.

originally posted by: dfnj2015
a reply to: Wojwoda

It makes no sense. Obviously if we meet any extraterrestrials they would be so much more advanced our weapons will be useless.

That is an assumption.

How do you know our weapons would be useless?

You don't, and as such unless you can provide evidence, I suggest you keep the negative Nancy protocol to yourself as well.

Maybe aliens have no kinetic armor, perhaps they have evolved past violence and see our species as dangerous because of our warring nature.

In that case, I bet a 50 Cal sniper rifle would be lethal, no matter how advanced their technology may be.

originally posted by: Bluntone22

originally posted by: theatreboy

originally posted by: dfnj2015
a reply to: Wojwoda

It makes no sense. Obviously if we meet any extraterrestrials they would be so much more advanced our weapons will be useless.

Why does everyone think that they would be more advanced than us?

Well considering we have sent only few people as far as the moon, any race capable of sending themselves solar system distances would obviously be more advanced.

It's an interesting thought experiment.

Intelligence can vary. Somewhere there is a brilliant brain surgeon that couldn't change a flat tire to save his soul.

The irony could be that advanced space traveling aliens could literally be so "ignorant" to some of the most common things known to the average man. It's a possibility.

a reply to: Wojwoda

one hopes that NASA knows things you dont

but the reason NASA requires firearms is answered below

link

originally posted by: ignorant_ape
a reply to: Wojwoda

one hopes that NASA knows things you dont

but the reason NASA requires firearms is answered below

link

Well done. There is even a photo of an agent holding one of those evil black rifles.

Interesting choice of weapon. So NASA needs a good anti-personnel gun.
Obviously a good reason why corrupt politicians don't want these in the hands of patriotic and Constitution minded law abiding Americans.

originally posted by: NoCorruptionAllowed
Interesting choice of weapon. So NASA needs a good anti-personnel gun.

Rocket technology, if stolen, could be a threat to our national security. Therefore, it seems that the security personnel who are guarding NASA facilities that have this technology should have good weapons.

Another thing that comes to mind would be guarding against the threat of a terrorist (foreign or domestic) attacking a high-value NASA site, such as a launch site for NASA missions. An attack against even a science payload (say the rocket carrying the next Mars rover) would be something a terrorist might attempt in order to shake up the public and wreak havoc.

I guess the Cricket is out then. I think it would be ideal weight wise though...

originally posted by: Soylent Green Is People

originally posted by: NoCorruptionAllowed
Interesting choice of weapon. So NASA needs a good anti-personnel gun.

Rocket technology, if stolen, could be a threat to our national security. Therefore, it seems that the security personnel who are guarding NASA facilities that have this technology should have good weapons.

Another thing that comes to mind would be guarding against the threat of a terrorist (foreign or domestic) attacking a high-value NASA site, such as a launch site for NASA missions. An attack against even a science payload (say the rocket carrying the next Mars rover) would be something a terrorist might attempt in order to shake up the public and wreak havoc.

I am totally in agreement with NASA defending their property and preserving national security with arms.

I was only pointing out the obvious, that politicians condemn these particular weapons in the hands of law abiding Americans, while they in turn arm themselves with them, or at least government agencies choose that particular weapon for defense.

What causes certain politicians to condemn the AR platform isn't concern for human life except their own, because of the guilt they have for their own disregard to American freedoms, and how they see a lawful minded citizenry as a threat to themselves, because of their ongoing agenda to disarm all but themselves.
None of this relates to NASA per se, except to make the point which is clear.

a reply to: theatreboy

Because they would have had to have travelled thousands of light years to be here to meet us. We can't have that tech. Therefore we are less advanced.
Conclusion: they are more advanced if we are meeting them here

a reply to: Bluntone22

There's a short story called "the road not taken", it was in an anthology called, I believe, Future War.

The premise, which I found fascinating, was that, yes, the bad aliens had interstellar travel, but in every other way they were centuries behind Earth.

originally posted by: dfnj2015
a reply to: Wojwoda

It makes no sense. Obviously if we meet any extraterrestrials they would be so much more advanced our weapons will be useless.

Even if they had phasers and disruptors the win would go to the fastest draw. Unless they are wearing some sort of armor the bullets wont care what kind of flesh they are penetrating.

Anyone that has worked at NASA knows they obtain their security services via federal contract; it's too expensive for them to recruit, operate and maintain an organic security force.

So tell me: what's really going on?

[cue the spooky music that always accompanies so-called flying saucer videos]

originally posted by: Bluntone22

originally posted by: theatreboy

originally posted by: dfnj2015
a reply to: Wojwoda

It makes no sense. Obviously if we meet any extraterrestrials they would be so much more advanced our weapons will be useless.

Why does everyone think that they would be more advanced than us?

Well considering we have sent only few people as far as the moon, any race capable of sending themselves solar system distances would obviously be more advanced.

That begs the question of what "advanced" even means. It could be that they stumbled onto the invention that allows them to travel, but are otherwise more or less at our intellectual level. If you extrapolate the accounts we have of "them" they are a) afraid of us and b) Small and wimpy physically. And c) they aren't very nice guys, clearly not in any sense morally superior. If you buy off on the idea if the Singularity, they may only be a hundred years ahead of us. In any case, a superior means of travel is only one indicator of superiority, and perhaps not the most important one.

originally posted by: dfnj2015
a reply to: Wojwoda

It makes no sense. Obviously if we meet any extraterrestrials they would be so much more advanced our weapons will be useless.

Ugg invent club.

You have many more technology than Ugg.

Ugg still win if Ugg hit you with club.

originally posted by: oldcarpy
a reply to: andy06shake

Yes, I could go with vast caverns but not bonkers hollow earth stuff.

Coincidentally, just watched Iron Sky 2 which had a lot of hollow Earth stuff. Will have to watch it again just to try to make sense of it. If that's possible, it really is that bonkers.

Neil Armstrong believed in deep Earth cavern systems. It's alleged he had knowledge of the same, on the moon.

The deep earth is pretty hot and liquid/gas pressures are high.

a reply to: Archivalist

a reply to: TheTruthRocks

sigh

citation required

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: Wojwoda

Well, the won't work in space they way they work down here that's a given.

Why, no oxygen require.

a reply to: Nickn3
That, no bullet drop due to gravity and no air resistance to slow the bullet down all make for a much more efficient weapon compared to earthly shooting.