It looks like you're using an Ad Blocker.

Please white-list or disable AboveTopSecret.com in your ad-blocking tool.

Thank you.

 

Some features of ATS will be disabled while you continue to use an ad-blocker.

 

Did POTUS Trump Really Say "Illegal children don't Need Toothbrushes, Soap, and Blankets"?

page: 7
23
<< 4  5  6    8  9 >>

log in

join
share:

posted on Jun, 27 2019 @ 04:57 PM
link   
a reply to: SeaWorthy

I wonder what's changed in the last three years?

Homelessness Crisis Continues to Worsen in So Cal


Wednesday, May 15, 2019

The homelessness crisis impacts many people in Southern California, and some are addressing the problem head-on as they look for solutions.

Rick and Robin Marcelli live in a townhouse in Sherman Oaks. They say the homeless crisis has gotten worse over the last year and a half.

"We've walked over needles on this very street. We've walked over human feces on this very street. This is Sherman Oaks. But I'm beginning to call it 'Skid Oaks,'" Rick Marcelli said.

Some incidents include the time a transient reportedly stood outside their front door waving a metal wrench, and a separate incident in which a homeless man was caught taking a bath in their complex's Jacuzzi.

As the Marcellis walk through the neighborhood, they see encampments, shopping carts and tents with homeless people sprawled along the sidewalk.

Rick Marcelli claims it has gotten worse.

"The number of families and adults that we have helped move into permanent housing from homeless just in 2018 is unprecedented. More than double what it was from three years ago," Homeless Initiative Director Phil Ansell said.

In Harbor City, conditions have deteriorated over the past few decades - with some sidewalks littered with trash, occupied by tents and packed with shopping carts overflowing with belongings.

Harbor City residents Lori and Caney Arnold call it a human tragedy.

"Why can't we help people now? We have a tent city that's on the street. People don't like it," Caney Arnold said. "Well, let's set up transitional housing. Maybe a tent city or maybe temporary structures where people get not just shelter, but also services."

"Given the inflow of people into homelessness, if we had a massive expansion in shelter and did nothing else, then in a relatively short period of time, the number of people on the street would re- accumulate, because of the inflow of people are continuing to become homeless," he said.


Southern California leaders are too busy worrying about Trump and playing to the southern border crisis to give a damn about their own area's homeless crises. Like I said, So Cal is #ing trash. Literally.




posted on Jun, 27 2019 @ 06:43 PM
link   

originally posted by: dfnj2015
...
At some point in my lifetime our government will put American people's interests first before foreign interests!


Illegals ARE NOT U.S. citizens, nor legal residents. They are for all intent and purposes "foreigners" who want to break the laws of the U.S. and want to be put in front of all people who are waiting, or have been waiting for years to enter legally the U.S.



edit on 27-6-2019 by ElectricUniverse because: correct comment.



posted on Jun, 27 2019 @ 06:49 PM
link   

originally posted by: ElectricUniverse

originally posted by: ManFromEurope
There isn’t enough money?????????????????????????

Are you completely out of your f- minds!?

That’s the most stupid explanation possible! How are people believing this? Toothpaste +toothbrush is about 5 cents per day per child.

There is no ground for any kind of discussion about the price of the most BASIC accommodations for humans, even less for children.


Shame on you!!!!! SHAME


In what world a toothbrush and toothpaste costs 5 cents?...

Even if you go to a dollar store, if you find them, a toothbrush would be $1, and a toothpaste would be $1... But again, these agencies are being underfunded ON PURPOSE BY THE LEFT, but you have the gall to tell me I should be ashamed?

YOU should be ashamed and so should the rest of the left. If it is so cheap perhaps YOU should give the money to these agencies... Will you?... of course not, you rather sit in your general chair and proclaim "shame on you" meanwhile you deny funding for these agencies...


There is one word for these sort of people... HYPOCRITES!!!



If they were as smart as they were smug the world would be a much better place



posted on Jun, 27 2019 @ 07:26 PM
link   

originally posted by: dawnstar
...
Fix the immigration laws. Huh?? What?? Ya that couldn't happen when the Republicans had control of both houses. Matter of fact, we went a long time with both parties not seeing any problem at all with them because those immigrants, legal and illegal were desired by the companies who hired them for cheaper wages and used the as a tool to suppress the wages for all if us. Now that they see that those lower wages are bringing a whole mess of unforeseen problems, ya now it time to change the laws. We must do it now, before some poor nine year old drops some poor baby on its head and gets charged with murder!!
...


You are literally insane... First of all, there are RINOs whom vote "progressive" at least half of the time, so not all Republicans have been siding with POTUS Trump. Not to mention the fact that Obama/the left formed an alliance with left-wing groups and rich individuals which from the start have been fighting any policy POTUS Trump and his allies have wanted to make...

How Obama is scheming to sabotage Trump’s presidency


originally posted by: dawnstar
Sanctuary cities, ya that's what we need to end those so our local jails jails can be filled by immigrants waiting around for our federal govt to get their crap together. Here we will just let this murderer go free to make room for another one here


You seem to forget that many illegals have committed many crimes... As a matter of fact, there is an article which shows Nicaragua has arrested 4 Muslim extremists who wanted to cross into the U.S. Since those illegals in sanctuary cities are not vetted we don't know how many more terrorists and criminals from south of the border are in the U.S. In New York, and other states MS 13 gang members have murdered people. The same MS-13 that democrats/liberals were claiming not that long ago that "doesn't exist..."


originally posted by: dawnstar
Although some states may be providing money to provide food stamps or something to illegal immigrants, pretty sure you need to prove your immigration status when you apply for any federal program. There's programs out there to help refugees and such but you are gonna have CV to show me where illegal immigrants can get on those programs.


There are other ways in which illegals make the law abiding pay for illegals. We all know that medical bills are getting more and more expensive. Guess what? Many illegals are known to be sick, since they don't have jobs they still have to be accepted in hospitals and since they have no health insurance the bill is being transferred to law abiding people in the U.S.

We are talking billions of dollars a year in just medical expenses that are being transferred to law abiding citizens whom they themselves can't pay for the increase prices that hospitals keep charging the law abiding.

Then there are other problems such as car accidents for example.


...
A review of State Police auto accident reports for 2002 through 2004 for that area of the Eastern Shore also revealed that of the 179 accidents involving Hispanic laborers:

75% of the drivers had no auto insurance.
Nearly all of the vehicles driven by migrants were registered to other drivers.
93% of the vehicles had false out-of-state tags.
...

The Dark Side Of Illegal Immigration

Many illegals have been driving around with no insurance, and when they cause an accident they run leaving the scene. Many legal and even other illegal people have been left to die after car accidents caused by illegal immigrants. They don't call the police or first responders, they simply leave the scene of the accident.

Because illegals don't pay car insurance this increases the premium in car insurance that legal residents and American citizens have to pay.

The total cost of illegal immigration on U.S. taxpayers is around $119 billion for fiscal year 2017. This does not count the increase in car insurance premiums that law abiding citizens have to pay because of illegals.


Report by Matt O'Brien and Spencer Raley | September 27, 2017 | View the Full Report (PDF)
Key Highlights

In 2017, the total cost of illegal immigration for the United States – at the federal, state, and local levels – was approximately $116 billion.

FAIR arrived at this number by subtracting the tax revenue paid by illegal aliens – about $19 billion – from the total economic impact of illegal migration, $134.9 billion.

In 2013, the estimated total cost of illegal migration was approximately $113 billion. So, in under four years, the cost has risen nearly $3 billion.

Evidence shows that the tax payments made by illegal aliens fail to cover the costs of the many services they consume.

A large percentage of illegal aliens who work in the underground economy frequently avoid paying any income tax at all.
Many illegal aliens actually receive a net cash profit through refundable tax credit programs.
...


The Fiscal Burden of Illegal Immigration on United States Taxpayers



originally posted by: dawnstar
Which leaves funding for ice. Which I'm sorry but both the house and the Senate have laws they passed in the last oupke of days. By what I understand the senate Republicans are refusing to work with the house or consider that bill and telling them it has to be the senate bill if there is going to be any funding. The grim reaper in the senate will just send that house bill to join so many of the bills the house has sent over to the senate in the graveyard called mitch's trashcan.
Don't know what to tell you. The government doesn't work like that. People need to compromise, listen to other viewpoints and at least be open that the opposing side might have something to offer.


Except for the FACT that democrat lawmakers themselves have been calling for the defunding, or abolishing agencies like ICE under POTUS Trump. Not to mention the fact that they have been denying funding. For crying out loud I gave links showing some of the tactics being used by left-wing lawmakers.

These Democrats want to abolish ICE

Top ICE official slams Dem proposal to limit number of beds in immigration detention centers

Dem ocrats want to limit ICE power by banning agents from courthouses, bus stops

Democrat/liberal lawmakers have been working from the start to stop or diminish funding for ICE, and they have been working to stop ICE and other agencies from doing their jobs etc.




edit on 27-6-2019 by ElectricUniverse because: add comment.



posted on Jun, 27 2019 @ 07:59 PM
link   
a reply to: ElectricUniverse

Lol. Anyone who actually tries to rationalize, justify, or make up excuses for any govt agency dumping babies and toddlers onto young traumatized children thinking that they would be taken care of is far crazier than me!
So I guess that should give you a clue as to what I think of your mental stability.



posted on Jun, 27 2019 @ 09:38 PM
link   
No you really need to understand the main point that the House(Congress not the White House) is responsible for budgets and funding, and they have denied Trump everything and have even called for The abolishment of ICE. That’s been going on for some time now. This is not on our POTUS. And they keep talking about the children in cages. Even aoc was caught posing for a picture of a “cage” that had nothing but police on the other side. You don’t seem to understand these people are lying sacks of $&)(, as my father used to say. They are radical leftists who want a socialist utopia no matter what they have to do. There is a saying,”let us do evil that good may come”. This is what they do.



posted on Jun, 27 2019 @ 10:47 PM
link   

originally posted by: dawnstar
a reply to: ElectricUniverse

Lol. Anyone who actually tries to rationalize, justify, or make up excuses for any govt agency dumping babies and toddlers onto young traumatized children thinking that they would be taken care of is far crazier than me!
So I guess that should give you a clue as to what I think of your mental stability.


Those children and toddlers are being dragged by parents to go through several countries, and through deserts, jungles, etc. The Trump administration is not doing this... What happens when a parent, or parents, in the U.S. leave their children in their car for a minute to a few minutes?... And again, what I am rationalizing is the fact that it is left-wingers like you who have demanded for ICE, the DHS, etc to be defunded. But you are insane enough to actually try to shift the blame to Trump...



posted on Jun, 28 2019 @ 12:16 AM
link   
My recent post was to the one blaming Trump for the children not having toothpaste. Sometimes the reply function doesn’t seem to work well.



posted on Jun, 28 2019 @ 12:17 AM
link   
None of that matters.
Illegals need to be returned to sender.



posted on Jun, 28 2019 @ 03:53 AM
link   
a reply to: ElectricUniverse

It seems like, at least on this thread, it's been the ones on the right most interested in playing the blame game.

What happens if you leave your child in a hot car for a few minutes? Don't know, possibly nothing, or you might end up up being unexpectantly delayed and find cops around your car breaking in to get your kid out in which case I hope you enjoy the nice headache your gonna get from protective services. Or you might find a dead child in which case have fun trying to beat the manslaughter charge you will probably be facing.
Which is why we have public service announcements warning not to leave kids in hot cars.
Here's one for ya. What happens if you are a sick mother under doctors care in NY if your sickness causes you to pass out one day and your kids burn the house down?
This actually happened to someone I knew. They take the kids away because you failed to provide adequate supervision and the are placed into a foster home.
Of course this foster home is required to have a few home inspections throughout the year to make sure it is meeting a predetermined set of standards. Ya know, like the kids are being fed, the house is halfway clean, the kids are getting medical care and are adequately supervised.
We've all seen the media outrage that occurs when DHS is found to be failing to monitor their foster care system haven't we? And, hopefully when the shortcomings are discovered, measures are taken to correct them. But no one blames those who are bringing the problems out into the open do they?
Well this is the second time in what, six months, that these problems have been revealed within the immigration system. A number of these problems, including entrusting children to care for children with very little adult supervision, would be cause to remove kids from their parents care, strip foster homes of their license, and justify the public outrage we are seeing if they are found to be systematic within a govt agency.
I've brought up a few ideas that would help solve the problems. A simple executive order to allow the donations to be accepted, allowing the many mental health counselors who have offered to volunteer their time with the kids. Some of these problems could be solved or at least lessened. But I just can't think of how to overcome the lack of adequate adult supervision and care of these kids, many of whom have close relatives in the states who would take them in and provide that care free of charge if we would just let them.

Consider this as just another form of a public service announcement, ya know like all those ones we hear warning us not to leave our kids in hot cars. Don't eat the tide pods. Don't climb into the lion's cage. They all seem to be rather obvious, like everyone should know this but still people just can't seem to resist.

Well, DON'T LEAVE THE CARE OF THE BABIES YOU HAVE CHOSEN TO TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR IN THE HANDS OF THE A LITTLE BIT OLDER KIDS THAT YOU HAVE ALSO TAKEN RESPONSIBILITY FOR.

If you were foster parent you would have the neighbors whispering behind your back how your just taking the kids in for the money if you were treating the kids even half as badly as what is being reported about the migrants!



posted on Jun, 28 2019 @ 06:33 AM
link   
Woah you go triggered there. Made quite a few declarative statements, showed youre a racist and have a problem respecting other folks religion. All just because you don't understand how funding works. The other poster is right, you should be ashamed. You saw AOC gaslight us all with her photo op staring at the facility with sad eyes in black and white? Did you see the zoom out photo, it's of a parking lot, with the gate open, pretending it's an evil concentration camp.

Dems are voting to limit funding for beds for these facilities at the border, they are voting to take away money for beds for these kids. You should be ashamed.

a reply to: ManFromEurope



posted on Jun, 28 2019 @ 06:51 AM
link   
a reply to: ElectricUniverse

Bro, we've all seem the TV clips and the memes. That lady is being called the most hated woman in America right now. Everyone knows who she is and what she said.

I think that you're confusing "donald Trump" with "The Trump Administration"''. Liberals know that Trump didn't personally say this.



posted on Jun, 28 2019 @ 06:54 AM
link   

originally posted by: Rob808

Dems are voting to limit funding for beds for these facilities at the border, they are voting to take away money for beds for these kids. You should be ashamed.

a reply to: ManFromEurope



Nope, Dems are voting to ring fence money to make sure it can't be diverted to the wall.

They want to make US tax payers bankroll illegal immigrants who are already in the country, not a wall to keep them out.



posted on Jun, 28 2019 @ 07:02 AM
link   

originally posted by: ElectricUniverse

originally posted by: dfnj2015
...
At some point in my lifetime our government will put American people's interests first before foreign interests!


Illegals ARE NOT U.S. citizens, nor legal residents. They are for all intent and purposes "foreigners" who want to break the laws of the U.S. and want to be put in front of all people who are waiting, or have been waiting for years to enter legally the U.S.



So for him, the government is putting American's interests before foreign interests by giving money to illegal immigrants ... er huh? So we are putting America first by giving money to people so they can send it back home to their country?

Logic.



posted on Jun, 28 2019 @ 06:08 PM
link   

originally posted by: dawnstar
a reply to: ElectricUniverse

It seems like, at least on this thread, it's been the ones on the right most interested in playing the blame game.
...


You are still unable to accept responsibility for what YOU yourself are responsible for. Who has been calling for defunding ICE, the DHS, etc under Trump?... It hasn't been the right, it has been people like YOU.

BTW, there are staff members in the detention centers, so I wonder why you would claim that the Trump administration is leaving traumatized children to care other children... Why do you claim this, because there are only children in the cages your idol Obama made?... Guess what? It was happening under both of Obama's terms AND YOU, and the rest of the left, DIDN'T GIVE A S#IT because your idols Obama/Biden couldn't do anything wrong...

The same goes for those who are from other countries and DIDN'T GIVE A S#IT that this was happening under both terms of Obama...



posted on Jun, 28 2019 @ 06:10 PM
link   

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04

originally posted by: ElectricUniverse

originally posted by: dfnj2015
...
At some point in my lifetime our government will put American people's interests first before foreign interests!


Illegals ARE NOT U.S. citizens, nor legal residents. They are for all intent and purposes "foreigners" who want to break the laws of the U.S. and want to be put in front of all people who are waiting, or have been waiting for years to enter legally the U.S.



So for him, the government is putting American's interests before foreign interests by giving money to illegal immigrants ... er huh? So we are putting America first by giving money to people so they can send it back home to their country?

Logic.


What are you talking about? What you wrote makes no sense whatsoever.



posted on Jun, 28 2019 @ 06:57 PM
link   
a reply to: ElectricUniverse

I dunno if he Did , but Poor American Children Need those Things too . Where's the " Outrage " there where American Children just " Do Without " Because the Dems in Government Care More about Illegal Foreign Nationals than their Own Constituency " WE THE PEOPLE Wanna Know !



posted on Jun, 28 2019 @ 07:59 PM
link   
a reply to: ElectricUniverse

okay, first..




You are still unable to accept responsibility for what YOU yourself are responsible for. Who has been calling for defunding ICE, the DHS, etc under Trump?... It hasn't been the right, it has been people like YOU.



NO, I am not responsible for this mess!! I have not talked anyone into traveling thousands of miles to our border, I played no part in making their home county a disaster area although the US did play a role, I have long ago gave up on writing letters to my representatives encouraging them to do anything. I don't contribute to election campaigns, my voting record is kind of 50/50 between the dems and the republicans with me sitting out the last few elections entirely while I joke around about voting for mickey mouse!!
I have not called to defund ice or DHS, but go on with your lies...
www.buzzfeednews.com...



An 11-year-old boy said he was with toddlers who had no one to care for them.

"There are little kids here who have no one to take care of them, not even a big brother or sister. Some kids are only two or three years old and they have no one to take care of them."





An 8-year-old boy described sleeping on a cement bench.

"They took us away from our grandmother and now we are all alone. They have not given us to our mother. We have been here for a long time. I have to take care of my little sister. She is very sad because she misses our mother and grandmother very much… We sleep on a cement bench. There are two mats in the room, but the big kids sleep on the mats so we have to sleep on the cement bench."





A 15-year-old girl said children had nothing to do except cry.

"I started taking care of [a 5-year-old girl] in the Ice Box after they separated her from her father. I did not know either of them before that. She was very upset. The workers did nothing to try to comfort her. I tried to comfort her and she has been with me ever since. [She] sleeps on a mat with me on the concrete floor. We spend all day every day in that room. There are no activities, only crying."


www.buzzfeednews.com...



The latest reports about conditions at CBP holding centers came from attorneys last week who visited a Clint, Texas facility. They described children caring for infants and toddlers, a lack of access to soap and toothbrushes, and inadequate food, water, and sanitation. The attorneys said 15 children were sick with the flu and another 10 were in quarantine. Hundreds of children were supposed to be transferred out of the facility, but on Tuesday a CBP official said more than 100 children were moved back to the location.



www.theatlantic.com...



I’m a mother myself. I have children who are 3, 6, and 9. I met with children my own kids’ age at the detention center who had no sibling or parent to take care of them. The guards are bringing in children who are 2 years old, 3 years old, and asking children who are just slightly older to take care of them. Actually, they’re not asking; they’re ordering that 7-, 8-, or 9-year-old children take care of 2-year-olds and 3-year-olds.

Obviously, these young children do not know how to take care of toddlers. When an 8-year-old was being interviewed about a 2-year-old whom she was unrelated to and had very little information about, one of the questions that my colleague Warren Binford asked is, “Does this toddler need a diaper?” The 8-year-old responded, “No.” Almost immediately the 2-year-old wet their pants.





Mukherjee: Yes, here we are again. Family separation—parent-child unit separations—were supposed to have stopped between last June and this May. The government just reported in the class-action lawsuit challenging the family separation policy that more than 700 families have been torn apart. In Clint last week, every child who we interviewed had crossed the border with an adult family member, whether it was a parent or an older sibling or an aunt or a grandmother. Every one of those family units was torn apart by the government.



I track down more articles but I'm pretty sure that you are just gonna claim that the reports aren't true, blah, blah... so I won't bother. the reports are claiming they are leaving children in charge of taking care of children, that is why I am raising the issue up!!




Why do you claim this, because there are only children in the cages your idol Obama made?... Guess what? It was happening under both of Obama's terms AND YOU, and the rest of the left, DIDN'T GIVE A S#IT because your idols Obama/Biden couldn't do anything wrong...



do you ever float down to earth? maybe you should turn off your fox news boob tube and just go outside, take a nice long walk, get connected back with nature or something.
but, for the record, I tend to have a low opinion of just about all the politicians, sure some more than others, but there isn't any at least none that high up in the political sphere that I would really have much respect for, you most certainly ain't gonna find any posts by me claiming any of them to be the modern day version of some biblical character, or anointed by god, destined to rule, or anything like that... there's christian "prophets" claiming the special role trump supposedly plays and it's commonly known that they believe pence is destined to be the president.

so give me a break, if you can't have an intelligent conversation with me without the insults and baseless accusations and suppositions... then this is the end of our conversation on this thread.



posted on Jun, 28 2019 @ 08:17 PM
link   
a reply to: Zanti Misfit

umm... it's not the dems that are telling us that if we couldn't afford the kids we shouldn't have had them!!!
seems like the only only time yous care about those poor masses living in the states is when yous can point to them pretending that you'd rather the money went to help them than to be spent on this or that..
when, I think the truth is, unless you are talking about the vets, yous would prefer that money be spent on either, nieve enough to believe that they will let you keep it in your pocket..



posted on Jun, 28 2019 @ 08:23 PM
link   
a reply to: dawnstar

Fook the Illegal Foreign Nationals . This Is America . Taking Care of " Our Own " Comes FIRST ALWAYS Pal .............

edit on 28-6-2019 by Zanti Misfit because: (no reason given)




top topics



 
23
<< 4  5  6    8  9 >>

log in

join