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Reddit Joins The Censorship Game: Quarantines Popular Donald Trump Sub

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posted on Jun, 26 2019 @ 03:51 PM
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a reply to: Lumenari

You guys are the ones who picked up the phrase "plantation" from your knight in shining armor Kanye West (which is really weird btw). Don't try to claim I'm the one who came up with the phrase because I was simply mocking YOUR thought patterns from past posting habits. Plantation was an "in" word around here about a year ago.




posted on Jun, 26 2019 @ 03:56 PM
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posted on Jun, 26 2019 @ 03:56 PM
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a reply to: 3NL1GHT3N3D1

There's something called discernment.

Just because people watch CNN, doesn't mean they are taking everything they say at face value.

Sometimes it's good to get all the information you can get, especially from both sides.



posted on Jun, 26 2019 @ 03:57 PM
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originally posted by: 3NL1GHT3N3D1
a reply to: Lumenari

If ATS is any indication of what Trump's base is like then it is just as bad as the left, just as intolerant and prejudiced. If you don't think so then you're suffering from the same delusion those loony leftists are suffering from: an inability to self-reflect.

There is no "good side" in Washington, but it is funny how they have convinced you otherwise.


do they like you in your home world? I have to say, you are getting to be quite the broken record here. We know you are so far above the left vs. right thing, but somehow, champion things left, and scorn things right. Like a statistical anomaly. A sad pathetic one.

you are playing right into their hands.



posted on Jun, 26 2019 @ 04:00 PM
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a reply to: knowledgehunter0986

Of course, propaganda is safe to eat as long as you do it with "discernment", just like poison.

Fact is, if you're watching CNN you have no discernment to begin with.
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posted on Jun, 26 2019 @ 04:02 PM
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a reply to: network dude

I just point out the hypocrisy that I see on here on a daily basis. You guys do a fine enough job of pointing out the left's hypocrisy on your own.



posted on Jun, 26 2019 @ 04:11 PM
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originally posted by: Tempter
This is getting kinda scary you guys.

The subreddit WAS ALREADY sectioned off from other subs, it was a SUBREDDIT!

I've never ONCE read even an anti-police POST in that sub.


Things are getting out of hand and we have to stop these mothersucking communists NOW.


The best thing to do is call them out for their violation of free speech, and then move on to some place that defends free speech. We should stop using their services.



posted on Jun, 26 2019 @ 04:11 PM
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a reply to: 3NL1GHT3N3D1

That's not a fact, that's your opinion.

Just because you yourself lack the discernment, doesn't mean others do too.

Apparently you're too afraid to watch the news, but can still somehow parade around here like you know more than the rest of us.

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posted on Jun, 26 2019 @ 04:18 PM
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a reply to: seagull

You know, I gotta wonder just how many of us there are.. Of course, we are all the vile enemy anyway, I suppose.

I was never a Dem. They weren't far enough away from the "establishment" for me.. However, the lynchpins of my beliefs are twofold: the foundation of the US was, and is, one of the most important achievements in history.. And, the actual plan of execution towards an ideal must adhere to reality. Period. I genuinely believe doing otherwise is a path to destruction, based on nothing more than narcissism and hubris.

I started sounding the alarm over a decade ago. Especially since so many of the concepts I agreed with were being sold under pretenses and methods so unbelievably false and harmful, that they would make even the most dedicated snake oil salesman blush. Nearly all of it feels much like how I imagine the Inquisition was like. Its not about building anything, its about conversion or destruction.

The latter is what we are dealing with here. There is definitely something to be said for exercising caution when considering government meddling in private businesses, but Im not any more fond of the idea of a corporate boot on my neck than a government one.

I think some of the best options going forward are to either label this new ideology as a non-theistic religion (with the restrictions that implies), or force corporations past a certain size/influence to comply with the founding documents of our nation. Hell, I wouldn't be opposed to both.

Trying to "debate" things with this social group is akin to trying to convince a Christian or a Muslim that they are worshipping the wrong, or a nonexistent God.



posted on Jun, 26 2019 @ 04:22 PM
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a reply to: knowledgehunter0986

Too afraid to watch the news? Not at all, I just have no interest in either feeding my ego and/or participating in my 2 minutes of hate.
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posted on Jun, 26 2019 @ 04:25 PM
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a reply to: 3NL1GHT3N3D1

But isn't that what you're doing here?

I guess you have to compensate for it somehow..

😂



posted on Jun, 26 2019 @ 04:30 PM
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a reply to: 3NL1GHT3N3D1

Reddit also enjoys protection from lawsuits as they are designated a platform. As a platform they are not liable for the content that is on their website. What makes them a platform is not removing things that are not illegal or specifically against the business interest of the company (IE, an atheist site doesn't need to keep up pro-christian posts). So what exactly is the business interest of reddit, that the_donald is breaking?

See section 230 of the communications decency act. This section immunizes online platforms for their users’ defamatory, fraudulent, or otherwise unlawful content. Congress granted this extraordinary benefit to facilitate “forum[s] for a true diversity of political discourse.” The exemption applies to platforms who remove content that is: "obscene, lewd, lascivious, filthy, excessively violent, harassing, or otherwise objectionable."

Google has already invoked this in prior cases. Google argued that otherwise objectionable meant whatever they wanted (basically). The court has found they have err'd in their judgement and that it is constrained to things similar to the items preceding it. The court said:



objectionable content must, at a minimum, involve or be similar to pornography, graphic violence, obscenity, or harassment.


So if they want the platform protections offered by section 230, they cannot be removing political things they disagree with. Same goes for reddit.



Is it only because you identify so much with a politician (identity politics) that any perceived slight is used to feed your persecution complex?


You're not very familiar with reddit. Are you? Visit their /r/politics sub sometime. The calls for violence and other vile language is rampant. I don't want them shutdown or quarantined. Meanwhile the_donald sub was removed for less than one post/comment per day that violated these standards.

It is not a perceived slight. It's blatant and obvious. Twitter, bans conservatives. Youtube deletes their videos. Facebook pushes them to the bottom of the never ending pile. Now reddit is banning a sub dedicated to supporting the president.
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posted on Jun, 26 2019 @ 04:30 PM
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a reply to: knowledgehunter0986

By getting ganged up on every time I say anything even remotely against the hivemind on here? How would you react if that happened to you on a forum you enjoy so much? You'd probably leave like many of the other non-Trump supporters of the past on here. I'm just making the echo around here less prominent.



posted on Jun, 26 2019 @ 04:31 PM
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a reply to: CriticalStinker

Honestly, over the past 10 years there have been 2 moments when I realized all is lost and people are brainwashed to the point where we won't see any active resistance.
1. The lack of popular questioning/doubt over Osama bin Laden reported being killed and dumped in the ocean. This is one of those incidents that should have demanded evidence and proof... yet most everyone on both political sides took it as the gospel and questioned nothing.
2. Snowden exposing the fact that the NSA was reading all Americans' emails, checking out their text messages, photos, documents, etc. This one should have caused rioting in the streets and seen federal authorities hanging from lamp posts in DC... yet, nothing. Very little outrage and even less court challenging of policies and, in fact, the biggest thing rising from it was the open public vilification of the whistleblower.

I have also said for some time now that this country has anything but a "free" press. We have a monopolized extension of the corporatocracy which also owns politicians from both parties, major labor unions, and most major "non-profit" groups as well.



posted on Jun, 26 2019 @ 04:38 PM
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posted on Jun, 26 2019 @ 04:43 PM
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originally posted by: 3NL1GHT3N3D1
a reply to: Lumenari

If ATS is any indication of what Trump's base is like then it is just as bad as the left, just as intolerant and prejudiced. If you don't think so then you're suffering from the same delusion those loony leftists are suffering from: an inability to self-reflect.

There is no "good side" in Washington, but it is funny how they have convinced you otherwise.


Well you can add me to that list, 'cause I truly do not see what you see.

Thanks, for the' intolerant and prejudice' badge. I'll display it, fondly, right next to my "racist" badge of honor.



posted on Jun, 26 2019 @ 04:45 PM
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a reply to: burdman30ott6

Number one I can understand, number two I completely agree
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posted on Jun, 26 2019 @ 04:59 PM
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a reply to: Serdgiam

I was most definitely a Democrat...think Sam Nunn/Henry Jackson, and you've about got it...though slightly to the right of both those men.

But I was never what some used to call "yellow dog"...I was more of a local and state democrat. I can't recall the last Democratic presidential candidate I voted for.

Now? Even the local and state democrats have gone 'round the twist in far too many instances. I find the GOP to be only slightly less unpalatable for the most part.

So I've gone independent. I give credit where credit is due to Trump, though I'm still not the biggest fan, but he's done a fair job of it. which throws me, according to some, into the vile and deplorable camp... ((shrug))--I'll get over it.



posted on Jun, 26 2019 @ 05:07 PM
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Diddums. Absolute hypocrites talking about censorship, when literally ANY post in T_D remotely questioning donnie is removed and the user banned?

Please. It was an anti free speech echo chamber.

Cry me a river.
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posted on Jun, 26 2019 @ 05:19 PM
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a reply to: fencesitter85

The purpose of the subreddit was to be pro-trump. Certainly you can understand why people not doing that were banned, right? Head on over to r/christianity and post a bunch of atheist garbage or vice versa. Or go to r/democrats and post pro trump stuff. Watch what happens.

The sub itself needn't adhere to free speech. The platform does.



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