a reply to: uncommitted
Blair and Brown were false Labour aka NEW Labour and were actually Thatcherites in almost every definition of the phrase, like the Tory's they
favored small government which is how we got into this awful devolution state that is tearing our union apart now.
It has to be said though that Both Labour and the Torys have done both GOOD and BAD for the NHS over the years, originally the foundation of the NHS
was against firm resistance by the Tory's and by in fact Doctors whom saw the nationalization of what for them was there industry as a step too far as
a nationalized service would undercut them as far as there charges were concerned, private health care was never outlawed and there have remained
private health providers and doctors to this day however the comprehensive birth to grave NHS model has been severely eroded and compromised with full
health care often being not given to older patients (since at least the 70's though you won't find it as a written policy) and it no longer being
genuinely free for all patient's and costs for medical dental (as opposed to cosmetic though a good argument can be made that it is necessary for some
cosmetic surgery to be available through the NHS as it can affect a patient's mental health status) now not being covered despite the fact we are ALL
paying for our NHS and it was never actually free at any time in it's entire existence with us paying via our National Insurance contributions (a pot
of gold regularly raided by just about every government since the time of it's inception for other project's - blame all those chancellors not just
one as far as that is concerned).
You know though due to Racist sensibility's his name kicks up something of a stink that Enoch Powell at the time a Tory minister had planned to make
certain that every town in our nation had at fully equipped NHS hospital, it was of course a plan that was later shelved.
The Strikes of the 1970's were due in very large part indeed to soviet influence via union's at that time infected by KGB agent's and soviet money
very much backed them up, during Thatchers years rightly or wrongly she even prevented aid from the Soviet union from reaching the striking Yorkshire
miners (whom remember were not fighting so that they could all go down holes in the ground and die young of minders lung but were fighting for there
town's, family's and community's against the loss of there one main source of income but we can today see that while her motives may not have been
kosha thatchers attack on the mining industry was perhaps a necessity that was going to happen at some point due to climate change - BUT the counter
argument is more interesting, her husband Dennis had shares directly or indirectly in overseas mining interests and could ship in for penny's cheap
(dirty and sulfurous) south american coal for out then mainly coal powered national grid for penny's while to dig up our own (high quality low sulfur
and relatively clean burning coal) coast pound's, it's called vested interest.
Politician's almost never champion the people they are meant to represent except and in so far as it is necessary for them to maintain there
lucrative and cushy position and instead they most often champion there own or close friend's vested interests, they hide there shares and often there
wealth as well through family or others with whom they have established a mutually beneficial agreement.
And then there is the whole cash for favors matter, it still goes on, it still happen's and just because one tabloid or other tried to blow the lid
on it does not even for one femtosecond mean that it has ever stopped being an issue were politics and power are concerned.
And when they know the dirt on one another that is when they don't blow one another up - or if it is going to rock the boat too much and bring too
much scrutiny from the public, I mean remember man when the EU decided we had to have freedom of information to counter the potentially devastating
damage (To there own interests) that this may cause the parliamentarian's devised a scheme to save there own hide's and that is called the Data
Protection act, sold to the public as protecting you and me but in reality a way to hide dirty secrets - and to give the pubes a few worthless denarii
in the process, a ploy that is often used by the Tory's more than Labour, throw a few coin to the poor then take it back from them in tax cut's for
the wealthy and better off's, hide there below inflation wage rises and cost of living rises in complicated statistic's while dividing society with
more and more money - far above inflation - for themselves and the already well to do management upper middle class and top earners.
Make no mistake even if she is your hero Thatcher started the ball rolling and even stated that she wanted to restore the class system to the UK,
Blair was her acolyte despite being Labour (actually former Conservative prime minister John Major was the most humanitarian prime minister we have
had since the demise of human politics that began in the Thatcher years and then probably only because he grew up on a council estate so knew what it
was like to have bare cupboards and I actually like the guy despite definitely not being a fan of his party myself).
Corbyn is no were near as left wing as he is claimed to be, a public school boy actually but he is left wing enough and more than that controversial
enough to have scared the crap out of some of the Tory's whom as long as they were facing new Labour knew that it would be business as usually even if
Labour got back into power but with Corbyn's own condemnation of New Labour that almost every true Labour voter and most of there members agreed was
NOT Labour and the obvious popularity of his call for a return to Labour's core policy's it has shown that there is a voracious appetite among the
electorate for a more caring government and just how sick people are of the corrupt politics of the last 30 plus years.
The point is that both party's had drifted every more to the right, at time's even the Liberal Democrats looked and indeed were more left wing than
New Labour had become.
Now we have a chance to set British politics back on an even Keel, one in which a more centrist and all inclusive government that actually cares
about our nation may have a chance to rise to power rather than corrupt self serving vultures seeking to prey upon our own people.
I disagree with a lot of Corbyn's views but until he is replaced with a better front man at least he is closer to what I want to see leading the
labour party than anyone in the past thirty years (though like I say wrong party but I did like Major and I believe it is a disgraceful injustice that
Milliband is not in no' 10 as I believe he rightly should be, perhaps a plot too far for the Tory's in fact as they have gone from being mildly
disliked to be utterly hated more now than at any time in my life and by a far broader base of the population whom truly dislike them and do not want
them to remain in government especially among the younger voters - not to say that complaining about the elderly whom are mostly conservative voters
was not like slitting there own throats as a party because it most certainly was.
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