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originally posted by: GD
a reply to: yuppa
There is some truth there, for sure. There has never been a separate Palestinian nation. It's always been a part of Israel, the Roman Empire or even the Ottoman Empire. BUT, as FredT stated. State on state violence leads to a slippery slope.
originally posted by: GD
a reply to: Zaphod58
One would hope that even though this was buried and classified, something was learned form it. We have more experience with asymmetric warfare now, and more emphasis is being placed on small boat swarm attacks. 5 years from now, the Navy could deploy their new toys- surface and subsurface drones. Now, we have to hope that everyone is on their toes when this kicks off.
originally posted by: gortex
a reply to: CanadianMason
Iran is strong enough to go to war with the US , they are ranked 14th of the 137 countries ranked in the Global Firepower review.
originally posted by: loveguy
a reply to: RIPMH370
Seems too simple to "realize" we could all be allies one day.
Once the bad apples are plucked, we then can venture away from the planet as a unit of good measure?
Who doesn't dream?
originally posted by: Jesushere
No offensive but most people on here are delusional and watch too many movies and tv news.
Its laughable that some of you think Iran military will be taken out in hours or days. I think the Americans public needs a reality check.
Operation Praying Mantis was an attack on 18 April 1988, by U.S. forces within Iranian territorial waters in retaliation for the Iranian mining of the Persian Gulf during the Iran–Iraq War and the subsequent damage to an American warship.
On 18 April, the U.S. Navy attacked with several groups of surface warships, plus aircraft from the aircraft carrier USS Enterprise, and her cruiser escort, USS Truxtun. The action began with coordinated strikes by two surface groups.
One Surface Action Group, or SAG, consisting of the destroyers USS Merrill (including embarked LAMPS MK I Helicopter Detachment HSL-35 Det 1) and USS Lynde McCormick, the LAMPS (Light Airborne MultiPurpose System) Helicopter Detachment from USS Samuel B. Roberts, was ordered to destroy the guns and other military facilities on the Sassan oil platform.
The Marines planted explosives, left the platform, and detonated them. The SAG was then ordered to proceed north to the Rakhsh oil platform to destroy it.
As the SAG departed the Sassan oil field, two Iranian F-4s made an attack run, but broke off when Lynde McCormick locked its fire control radar on the aircraft. The other group, which included guided missile cruiser USS Wainwright and frigates USS Simpson and USS Bagley , attacked the Sirri oil platform
Iran responded by dispatching Boghammar speedboats to attack various targets in the Persian Gulf. All of these vessels were damaged in different degrees. After the attacks, A-6E Intruder aircraft launched from USS Enterprise, were directed to the speedboats by an American frigate. The two VA-95, aircraft dropped Rockeye cluster bombs on the speedboats
Iranian fast attack craft Joshan, challenged USS Wainwright and Surface Action Group Charlie. Joshan responded by firing a Harpoon missile. The missile was successfully lured away by chaff. USS Simpson responded to the challenge by firing four Standard missiles, while Wainwright followed with one Standard missile. All missiles hit and destroyed the Iranian ship's superstructure but did not immediately sink it, so Bagley fired a Harpoon of its own. The missile did not find the target. SAG Charlie closed firing guns to sink the crippled Iranian ship.
Two Iranian F-4 Phantom fighters were orbiting when Wainwright decided to drive them away. Wainwright fired two Extended Range Standard missiles, one of which detonated near an F-4, blowing off part of its wing and peppering the fuselage with shrapnel.
Iranian frigate Sahand departed Bandar Abbas and challenged elements of an American surface group. The frigate was spotted by two A-6Es from VA-95 while they were flying surface combat air patrol for USS Joseph Strauss. Sahand fired missiles at the A-6Es, which replied with two Harpoon missiles and four laser-guided Skipper missiles. Joseph Strauss fired a Harpoon. Most, if not all of the shots scored hits, causing heavy damage and fires. Fires blazing on Sahand's decks eventually reached her munitions magazines, causing an explosion that sank her.
Late in the day, the Iranian frigate Sabalan departed from its berth and fired a surface-to-air missile at several A-6Es from VA-95. The A-6Es then dropped a Mark 82 laser-guided bomb into Sabalan's stack, crippling the ship and leaving it burning.
In retaliation for the attacks, Iran fired Silkworm missiles (suspected to be the HY-4 version) from land bases against SAG Delta in the Strait of Hormuz and against USS Gary in the northern central Persian Gulf, but all missed due to the evasive maneuvers and use of decoys by the ships. A missile was probably shot down by Gary's 76 mm (3.0 in) gun. The Pentagon and the Reagan Administration later denied that any Silkworm missile attacks took place, possibly in order to keep the situation from escalating further - as they had promised publicly that any such attacks would merit retaliation against targets on Iranian soil.edit on 1-1-2020 by FlyingFox because: freedom