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Why The Left Is Trying To Convince People Our Border Facilities Are Concentration Camps

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posted on Jun, 24 2019 @ 05:56 PM
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a reply to: burdman30ott6

I'm not sure where you are going with all this.
But my op is trying to defend that these current camps arent concentration camps.

Are you just making arguments for argument sake?

Again, of you want to discuss political philosophy we can.




posted on Jun, 24 2019 @ 05:56 PM
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a reply to: burdman30ott6

What do you expect with a democrat party whose proud history consists of Slavery, Segregation, Misogyny, KKK, Jim Crow, and Japanese Internment



posted on Jun, 24 2019 @ 06:07 PM
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a reply to: strongfp

I'm pointing out the fact that the politicians whining about this were born of the party that actually did have a history of doing all the atrocities they're presently falsely accusing the GOP of. They are, by definition, hypocrites and projection accusers.

In other words, the Left is trying to convince people that the border situation involves "concentration camps" because the Left's history of dealing with those they found undesirable actually did center on concentration camps. Short memories and a pliant media will ensure that, if they can convince people that the conservatives are Nazis, many Americans will stroll right past the fact that it was absolutely the Democratic Party that fought to preserve slavery, founded the Klan, locked immigrant Americans in interment camps, blocked the Civil Rights movement, built their baby killing empire on the shoulders of a eugenicist racist whore, and persists to this day as the singular entity which introduces racial disharmony into EVERY issue in the nation.
edit on 24-6-2019 by burdman30ott6 because: (no reason given)



posted on Jun, 24 2019 @ 06:13 PM
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a reply to: burdman30ott6

You want to being history into this? Do the Belgians of today represent the white supremacy over Rwanda shortly before their genocide?

Does colonization from white Europeans mean all European people living now are white supremacists?
Are all people from the southern states white supremacists becuae that's where the confederacy was?

You brought history into this. Not me, just saying.



posted on Jun, 24 2019 @ 06:23 PM
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originally posted by: strongfp
a reply to: burdman30ott6

You want to being history into this? Do the Belgians of today represent the white supremacy over Rwanda shortly before their genocide?

Does colonization from white Europeans mean all European people living now are white supremacists?
Are all people from the southern states white supremacists becuae that's where the confederacy was?

You brought history into this. Not me, just saying.



Exactly why the reparations argument today is garbage.



posted on Jun, 24 2019 @ 06:24 PM
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originally posted by: seagull
They're so invested in this "Orange man fascist/Nazi" meme.


I'm guessing that if AOC does not know what a garbage disposal, is that she does not know that Nazi's are Socialist?



posted on Jun, 24 2019 @ 06:25 PM
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originally posted by: strongfp
a reply to: burdman30ott6

You want to being history into this? Do the Belgians of today represent the white supremacy over Rwanda shortly before their genocide?

Does colonization from white Europeans mean all European people living now are white supremacists?
Are all people from the southern states white supremacists becuae that's where the confederacy was?

You brought history into this. Not me, just saying.


Uh, wow, you just spat and drooled your way though that Slurpee, didn't you? YOU JUST SHOWED YOUR OWN ASS AS A DEMOCRAT AND PROVED MY ENTIRE GD POINT. I'm talking about a political party, not a race, dude. I didn't say "White Americans shackled Japanese-Americans and interred them during WW2." I said a Democrat POTUS did it. Someone's politics ARE NOT their effing racial identity, Sherlock. Politics are by choice and my point is the political party you and the asshats the OP mentions have voluntarily decided to kneel and kiss the sack of are the party who was responsible for the aforementioned atrocities.

So no, a modern Belgian is not responsible for the Rwanda genocide. BUT if a group of modern Belgians reformed the Christian Democratic Party that was responsible for laying the ground for the atrocities, civil war, and genocide in Rwanda, then ABSOLUTELY, they would represent the white supremacist movement that had committed the acts decades ago under that banner!

You really are struggling to see the difference here, aren't you? That's either sad or hilariously funny... hell, maybe both.



posted on Jun, 24 2019 @ 06:26 PM
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Why is there even a problem? They broke into our country illegally. They should be kicked out immediately. No more problem.



posted on Jun, 24 2019 @ 06:30 PM
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a reply to: Bluntone22

It's a dumb debate on the surface, but it's a good look into where a lot of hatred stems from, and in the case of the dems it's a vote grab. The liberals are doing the same thing right now with indigenous people right now in Canada.



posted on Jun, 24 2019 @ 06:32 PM
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originally posted by: burdman30ott6
a reply to: strongfp

I'm pointing out the fact that the politicians whining about this were born of the party that actually did have a history of doing all the atrocities they're presently falsely accusing the GOP of. They are, by definition, hypocrites and projection accusers.

In other words, the Left is trying to convince people that the border situation involves "concentration camps" because the Left's history of dealing with those they found undesirable actually did center on concentration camps. Short memories and a pliant media will ensure that, if they can convince people that the conservatives are Nazis, many Americans will stroll right past the fact that it was absolutely the Democratic Party that fought to preserve slavery, founded the Klan, locked immigrant Americans in interment camps, blocked the Civil Rights movement, built their baby killing empire on the shoulders of a eugenicist racist whore, and persists to this day as the singular entity which introduces racial disharmony into EVERY issue in the nation.


This is true. Democrats will never admit or own they were the party of racism. Everyone knows these facts so just accept it and move on. Pathetic they really believe they can erase history. It's all right there for everyone to see "in plain sight" as they like to say. Yet blacks still vote for them. Insane.



posted on Jun, 24 2019 @ 06:33 PM
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a reply to: strongfp


Well everybody knows that a politicians number one priority is to get reelected..



posted on Jun, 24 2019 @ 06:38 PM
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originally posted by: Stupidsecrets
Yet blacks still vote for them. Insane.


On a related note, who's actually racist...
Group A which tells the minority "YOU can do this! We believe you have the ability to succeed within you and we are cheering for you to succeed and experience the feeling of having done so."
or Group B which tells the minority "You can't do this without help from the whiteman so we'll take from him, give it to you to make a playing field easy enough where even you, disadvantaged and lesser than us, can reach the finish line while we pull back the reigns of anyone who challenges you to an actual race. Let us help you because you can't do it without us."

Democrats are a racist group of hateful pricks, yesterday, today, and I can only assume, tomorrow.



posted on Jun, 24 2019 @ 06:45 PM
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a reply to: burdman30ott6

No I'm really not. I think you are looking to relaxed into the situation.



posted on Jun, 24 2019 @ 06:49 PM
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a reply to: strongfp

So ethnicity and political party are interchangeable in your mind. Got it.

Hmm... I need to find a good Libertarian restaurant tonight, I've been craving some humanistic cuisine and maybe some live objectivist music.



posted on Jun, 24 2019 @ 07:07 PM
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originally posted by: Sublimecraft
a reply to: Dfairlite

"how liars create the illusion of truth"


Repetition makes a fact seem more true, regardless of whether it is or not. Understanding this effect can help you avoid falling for propaganda, says psychologist Tom Stafford.


"Repeat a lie often enough and it becomes truth" - Joseph Goebbels, Minister for Propaganda under Hitler.

The facilities at the southern border are not concentration camps, not even close - intelligent folks know this, stupid folks take it as gospel because they are mentally limited in pretty much all facets of life.

And the DemoFascists do it well



posted on Jun, 24 2019 @ 07:24 PM
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a reply to: burdman30ott6

No they arent. Once again you are taking the subject to literally and in a relaxed manner.

Like I said if you want to discuss the philosophy behind this subject we can.



posted on Jun, 24 2019 @ 07:51 PM
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originally posted by: strongfp
a reply to: burdman30ott6

No they arent. Once again you are taking the subject to literally and in a relaxed manner.

Like I said if you want to discuss the philosophy behind this subject we can.


I thought we were discussing the philosophy behind it right here.

Alright, taking it too literally, you say. FDR is widely held to be the Democrat's answer to Abraham Lincoln, or even Ronald Reagan. The two Dem presidents in my lifetime, Clinton and Obama, both showered the man with praises and openly modeled their policies and politics after him. That's apples to apples, my friend... they celebrated the last US President who literally incarcerated and stripped the rights from swaths of US citizens based solely on their ethnicity. That is not "white people" that is not "colonials" that is not "old style Democrat from before the political shift" that always gets crapped out on the discussion table when the fact that Lincoln and the GOP freed the slaves against the demands of the Democrats... it's the man who is credited with being the father of the modern progressive movement in the USA and he is wearing the scarlet letter of a man who ordered the incarceration and removal of rights of thousands of American citizens because of their skin color and country of heritage. So let's discuss the philosophy of people who adore FDR while accusing boogeymen where no boogeymen exist.



posted on Jun, 24 2019 @ 07:53 PM
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originally posted by: burdman30ott6
a reply to: strongfp

So ethnicity and political party are interchangeable in your mind. Got it.

Hmm... I need to find a good Libertarian restaurant tonight, I've been craving some humanistic cuisine and maybe some live objectivist music.


The problem with Libertarian restaurants is that everyone wants to order food their way and recipe, hard to keep food consistent that way.



posted on Jun, 24 2019 @ 08:01 PM
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As the resident liberal I will admit "concentration camp" is a bit of a stretch.

"Detention Camp" or "Internment Camp" would be more appropriate and accurate.

Those two phrases aren't much better though.

However, when you look at what a concentration camp was, it's not hard to see how people can draw parallels.

They are both "prison" type camps "detaining" excessive amounts of people against there will, in terrible inhumane conditions, almost all (almost) of which who are the same race/ethnicity for the reason that their kind is not wanted in the country hosting the camp.

Those are some pretty damning similarities.

So even though concentration camp is a stretch... It's not a leap



posted on Jun, 24 2019 @ 08:05 PM
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originally posted by: pavil

originally posted by: burdman30ott6
a reply to: strongfp

So ethnicity and political party are interchangeable in your mind. Got it.

Hmm... I need to find a good Libertarian restaurant tonight, I've been craving some humanistic cuisine and maybe some live objectivist music.


The problem with Libertarian restaurants is that everyone wants to order food their way and recipe, hard to keep food consistent that way.


The best places have no menu and people just ask for what they feel like eating 😃




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