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Bernie Sander's Constitution is Equal to Stalin's Constitution of the USSR.

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posted on Jun, 17 2019 @ 09:31 AM
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Bernie has several problems:

1. He is part of the global 1% who he constantly bashes. Can talk your ear off about socialism but does not practice it himself. Confront him on it and he gets ornery. It's his excess money and his excess houses!!

2. Showed he will cut and run if getting the nomination means getting into a pressure cooker with members of his own party. Likes to bash Trump but Trump is not the thing to get him to the thing. Bashing Biden, Warren and others in his party is the thing to get him to the thing which is the nomination. He's not willing to do it on the scale needed. Others will however do it to him. He's too weak.

3. Way more examples of what he says will work destroying countries. Mass unemployment, poverty and corruption.




posted on Jun, 17 2019 @ 09:32 AM
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originally posted by: strongfp
A Hegelian society is not a bad thing tho... its a good thing since its main point is to learn from history and embrace cultural changes over time.

Rotflmao!

Really?



posted on Jun, 17 2019 @ 09:35 AM
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a reply to: tanstaafl

Its a philosophy to provoke thought processes.

I'll expand a tiny bit. Part of his philosophical meanings were continuing loops of playing devils advocate and somewhere in there you will find the answer. It usually ends up in nothing. This is why arts and history were an important part of his rhetoric. Because on there you can find lots of answers.
edit on 17-6-2019 by strongfp because: (no reason given)



posted on Jun, 17 2019 @ 09:42 AM
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originally posted by: strongfp
a reply to: tanstaafl

Its a philosophy to provoke thought processes.


Or control thought processes



posted on Jun, 17 2019 @ 09:43 AM
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a reply to: ManFromEurope




Somehow, the us-american republican definition of "socialism" would be kind of interesting for me to read about.


Most define it as an illusion of free stuff that's actually paid for by the middle class through taxes.



posted on Jun, 17 2019 @ 09:54 AM
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originally posted by: ManFromEurope
a reply to: joemoe

Somehow, the us-american republican definition of "socialism" would be kind of interesting for me to read about.

It bears no resemblance to socialism of the Western-European style.


What would be interesting to read is how raising the corporate tax rate to tax the rich more will bring more jobs and improve the American economy, when we know it pushes companies operations out of the US and to cheaper countries.

So how does raising the tax rate on non-existent companies lower the debt or pay for free college, free healthcare, or free anything? Plus, how does that guarantee everyone will have a living wage if the companies that pay those wages are moving out?

You guys always sit here and say the rich don't pay taxes, yet say we need to raise taxes on the rich. So which is it and if they just pass the cost to the consumer, how does taxing them give us free stuff?



posted on Jun, 17 2019 @ 10:00 AM
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originally posted by: ManFromEurope
a reply to: joemoe

Somehow, the us-american republican definition of "socialism" would be kind of interesting for me to read about.

It bears no resemblance to socialism of the Western-European style.


I guess you can always read the teaching of Saul Alinsky then.



posted on Jun, 17 2019 @ 10:23 AM
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This is Bernieism a few steps down after the power is achieved.......


The Great Purge

The Great Purge or the Great Terror (Russian: Большой террор) was a campaign of political repression in the Soviet Union which occurred from 1936 to 1938. It involved a large-scale purge of the Communist Party and government officials, repression of wealthy landlords and the Red Army leadership, widespread police surveillance, suspicion of saboteurs, counter-revolutionaries, imprisonment, and arbitrary executions. In Russian historiography, the period of the most intense purge, 1937–1938, is called Yezhovshchina (literally, "Yezhov phenomenon",[note 1] commonly translated as "times of Yezhov" or "doings of Yezhov"), after Nikolai Yezhov, the head of the Soviet secret police, the NKVD, who was executed a year after the purge. Modern historical studies estimate the total number of deaths due to Stalinist repression in 1937–38 to be between 681,692 and 1,200,000.




Holodomor

The Holodomor (Ukrainian: Голодомо́р; derived from морити голодом, "to kill by starvation") was a man-made famine in Soviet Ukraine in 1932 and 1933 that killed millions of Ukrainians. It is also known as the Terror-Famine and Famine-Genocide in Ukraine, and sometimes referred to as the Great Famine or The Ukrainian Genocide of 1932–33. It was part of the wider Soviet famine of 1932–33, which affected the major grain-producing areas of the country. During the Holodomor, millions of inhabitants of Ukraine, the majority of whom were ethnic Ukrainians, died of starvation in a peacetime catastrophe unprecedented in the history of Ukraine. Since 2006, the Holodomor has been recognized by Ukraine and 15 other countries as a genocide of the Ukrainian people carried out by the Soviet government.



posted on Jun, 17 2019 @ 10:29 AM
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a reply to: Bluntone22

Well considering that's the opposite of philosophy I guess you can interpret it that way if you wanted.



posted on Jun, 17 2019 @ 10:56 AM
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a reply to: Lumenari

Everyy one is equal, right?

We all need to make the same amount of money for that "living wage" ((whatever the Hell that is...)). What's the point in trying to get ahead? Getting that education, or bettering ones skill set??

There's very valid reason that the USSR lost the Cold War. Communism and/or socialism don't work.

I know you know this...



posted on Jun, 17 2019 @ 11:06 AM
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So once Bernie's socialism is passed, can I quit my job in the IT field and work at McDonald's to make the same amount? Just asking how equal things will be.



posted on Jun, 17 2019 @ 11:15 AM
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originally posted by: strongfp
a reply to: Lumenari

A Hegelian society is not a bad thing tho... its a good thing since its main point is to learn from history and embrace cultural changes over time.


A Hegelian society would only work if you did not have human nature to work with.

So it looks good on paper and that's exactly where it should stay.



posted on Jun, 17 2019 @ 11:23 AM
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posted on Jun, 17 2019 @ 11:28 AM
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a reply to: Middleoftheroad

Y'see, that's where you're wrong. In Sander's utopia people in your field would be paid like McDonald's workers...

Rather than raising everyone to the same level, he and his ilk want to lower everyone---except themselves, of course.

That's his utopia...and breadlines for us, and state run stores for him and his. Let's not forget those.



posted on Jun, 17 2019 @ 11:35 AM
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Socialism stifles motivation. What is the point of making a billion dollar blockbuster movie like the Avengers if the government wants a massive cut. What is the point of doing R&D on new medicine, tech if all that hard work is only marginally rewarded or just outright taken. There is no point. Socialist countries don't contribute much to humanity other than punishing motivated and talented people when they achieve success. What it really creates is inequality by not rewarding hard work. Work harder and the government will take more of the fruits of that effort and force defeatism on anyone who thinks otherwise.



posted on Jun, 17 2019 @ 11:49 AM
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originally posted by: strongfp
a reply to: tanstaafl

Its a philosophy to provoke thought processes.

You mean to confuse thought processes.

Don't need to study it,m I'm fully aware of it, especially it's primary tool of confusion called the Hegelian dialectic.



posted on Jun, 17 2019 @ 11:52 AM
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a reply to: seagull

I'm literally just trying to understand their line of thinking.

Are they really just so misinformed they don't understand how the economy works?

Are they already a bottom-feeder, burdened with extreme laziness and the only way to progress in life is to lower everyone to their level?

Do they just hear free-stuff and automatically throw their hat in without doing some critical thinking on where that money to pay for the free stuff is coming from?



posted on Jun, 17 2019 @ 11:55 AM
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a reply to: Middleoftheroad

I don’t know if your question was rhetorical or not and while I realize it wasn’t directed at me I thought I’d take a stab at answering.

Classism has been fomenting within our society for quite some time.

So the basic answer to your question is anger that has been engineered by those who wish to promote a communist/socialist regime.



posted on Jun, 17 2019 @ 12:00 PM
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originally posted by: Middleoftheroad
a reply to: seagull

I'm literally just trying to understand their line of thinking.


Especially in light of the obvious evidence that it doesn't work. Ever.


Are they really just so misinformed they don't understand how the economy works?


Some, perhaps even most, are, indeed, misinformed. The rest of 'em? They see it as a road to power.


Are they already a bottom-feeder, burdened with extreme laziness and the only way to progress in life is to lower everyone to their level?


Again, a combination of that, and thinking that they'll ride the dragon to wealth and power, because they'll, of course, be among the elite.


Do they just hear free-stuff and automatically throw their hat in without doing some critical thinking on where that money to pay for the free stuff is coming from?


Mostly, yeah. Or so it seems to me. People like Bernie, however, have, imho, a darker motivation. Power. Control. If not for him, as he's somewhat aged...but his group/ilk of younger fellow Travellers are another story entirely.
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posted on Jun, 17 2019 @ 12:04 PM
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a reply to: DBCowboy

...and class conflict is where socialism/marxism/communism thrives and grows.



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