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Bernie Sander's Constitution is Equal to Stalin's Constitution of the USSR.

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posted on Jun, 17 2019 @ 07:11 AM
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Even though Bernie has tried to sell socialism and communism as something new, his proposal is 100% taken directly from Stalin's Constitution.

Here is an excerpt from Berni's new constitution/economic bill of rights.


...
He then set forth his vision of a 21st Century Economic Bill of Rights, which would recognize that all Americans should have:

The right to a decent job that pays a living wage
The right to quality health care
The right to a complete education
The right to affordable housing
The right to a clean environment
The right to a secure retirement
...

truthout.org...


And here is Stalin's Constitution of the USSR.


Stalin’s Constitution of the USSRMoscow, USSR December 1936
...
ARTICLE 14. The jurisdiction of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics, as represented by its highest organs of state authority and organs of government, covers:
...
i.Safeguarding the security of the state;
...
q.Establishment of the basic principles for the use of land as well as for the use of natural deposits, forests and waters;
r.Establishment of the basic principles in the spheres of education and public health;

...

ARTICLE 118. Citizens of the U.S.S.R. have the right to work, that is, are guaranteed the right to employment and payment for their work in accordance With its quantity and quality. The right to work is ensured by the socialist organization of the national economy, the steady growth of the productive forces of Soviet society, the elimination of the possibility of economic crises, and the abolition of unemployment.

ARTICLE 119. Citizens of the U.S.S.R. have the right to rest and leisure. The right to rest and leisure is ensured by the reduction of the working day to seven hours for the overwhelming majority of the workers, the institution of annual vacations with full pay for workers and employees and the provision of a wide network of sanatoria, rest homes and clubs for the accommodation of the working people.

ARTICLE 120. Citizens of the U.S.S.R. have the right to maintenance in old age and also in case of sickness or loss of capacity to work. This right is ensured by the extensive development of social insurance of workers and employees at state expense, free medical service for the working people and the provision of a wide network of health resorts for the use of the working people.

ARTICLE 121. Citizens of the U.S.S.R. have the right to education. This right is ensured by universal, compulsory elementary education; by education, including higher education, being free of charge; by the system of state stipends for the overwhelming majority of students in the universities and colleges; by instruction in schools being conducted in the native language, and by the organization in the factories, state farms, machine and tractor stations and collective farms of free vocational, technical and agronomic training for the working people.
...
ARTICLE 128. The inviolability of the homes of citizens and privacy of correspondence are protected by law.
...
ARTICLE 131. It is the duty of every citizen of the U.S.S.R. to safeguard and strengthen public, socialist property as the sacred and inviolable foundation of the Soviet system, as the source of the wealth and might of the country, as the source of the prosperous and cultured life of all the working people.
...

insidethecoldwar.org...

Bernie Sanders is the same old communist bastard he was decades ago. Like Chavez and Maduro, and many other communists/socialists, Bernie Sanders claims this is a new type of socialism, when it is the same old lies that dozens of nations embraced and which caused the suffering of most people, and the economic destruction of those countries which embraced these socialist/communist ideas/principles.





edit on 17-6-2019 by ElectricUniverse because: correct comment.




posted on Jun, 17 2019 @ 07:21 AM
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a reply to: ElectricUniverse

Anything that will address wealth inequality in this country is a good thing. There's nothing stopping the greedy billionaires from turning everyone into economic slaves.



And

The numbers don't lie, we have too many cartels and monopolies

We have too much price fixing going on in this country. We already have a single party soviet style government it's just that the communism we have in this country is NOT the kind of communism that is in the workers favor!!!



posted on Jun, 17 2019 @ 07:26 AM
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a reply to: ElectricUniverse

All the attempts at a Hegelian society are renamed to attempt to sell it again.

Simply because if you just call it communism or socialism it isn't really hard to point out that previous attempts were utter failures that cost more loss of life then all our wars combined.

I'm surprised that somebody hasn't just started calling it Sandersism.

Like Leninism, Maoism, Stalinism...




posted on Jun, 17 2019 @ 07:27 AM
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edit on 17-6-2019 by dfnj2015 because: (no reason given)



posted on Jun, 17 2019 @ 07:28 AM
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a reply to: ElectricUniverse

Here's a copy of Stalin's constitution, which parts were taken because I don't see that you seem to think exist:

Stalin's Constitution

RE: "Even though Bernie has tried to sell socialism and communism as something new, his proposal is 100% taken directly from Stalin's Constitution. "

Are you are just a mindless idiot or did you really see something. Because when I look at Stalin's text I do not see the "100%" part you are talking about.


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posted on Jun, 17 2019 @ 07:29 AM
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a reply to: dfnj2015

So you're saying that Russia doesnt have wealth inequality?

Bwhahahaha!


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posted on Jun, 17 2019 @ 07:30 AM
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a reply to: dfnj2015

Wealth inequality happens because humans are inherently not equal.

Trying to fix that will always result in a tyrannical government.

So for America we will take a firm pass on that insanity, thank you.




posted on Jun, 17 2019 @ 07:34 AM
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a reply to: Bluntone22

You always saying laissez faire capitalism is without criticisms.

The difference between you and me is I don't accept laissez faire capitalism as the solution. Government has a role otherwise we will have a very bad result. What difference does it make what type of government we have if people end up being slaves to the system???????

The difference between you and me is you blindly worship your party.



posted on Jun, 17 2019 @ 07:37 AM
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originally posted by: Lumenari
a reply to: dfnj2015
Wealth inequality happens because humans are inherently not equal.
Trying to fix that will always result in a tyrannical government.
So for America we will take a firm pass on that insanity, thank you.


That's BS and you know it. The billionaires pay the lobbyists to force the politicians to pass laws creating cartels and monopolies in exchange for campaign financing. We have no free-markets in this country to wring out the inefficient of exorbitant CEO pay and shareholder dividends.


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posted on Jun, 17 2019 @ 07:38 AM
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a reply to: dfnj2015

Says someone who blindly follows an ideology that not only has never worked, but never will.

The Cult of socialism.

It would be funny to watch if it wasn't so inherently dangerous for so many of our citizens to be so stupid.

The Department of Education is working exactly like it is supposed to.

Conditioning an ever-dumber population to accept more governmental control.

/facepalm


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posted on Jun, 17 2019 @ 07:40 AM
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a reply to: dfnj2015

And yet you live in a society where you too can become a CEO, a millionaire or whatever you want.

So is the problem the system, or is it you?




posted on Jun, 17 2019 @ 07:41 AM
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originally posted by: ElectricUniverse
Even though Bernie has tried to sell socialism and communism as something new, his proposal is 100% taken directly from Stalin's Constitution.

Here is an excerpt from Berni's new constitution/economic bill of rights.


...
He then set forth his vision of a 21st Century Economic Bill of Rights, which would recognize that all Americans should have:

The right to a decent job that pays a living wage
The right to quality health care
The right to a complete education
The right to affordable housing
The right to a clean environment
The right to a secure retirement
...

truthout.org...


And here is Stalin's Constitution of the USSR.


Stalin’s Constitution of the USSRMoscow, USSR December 1936
...
ARTICLE 14. The jurisdiction of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics, as represented by its highest organs of state authority and organs of government, covers:
...
i.Safeguarding the security of the state;
...
q.Establishment of the basic principles for the use of land as well as for the use of natural deposits, forests and waters;
r.Establishment of the basic principles in the spheres of education and public health;

...

ARTICLE 118. Citizens of the U.S.S.R. have the right to work, that is, are guaranteed the right to employment and payment for their work in accordance With its quantity and quality. The right to work is ensured by the socialist organization of the national economy, the steady growth of the productive forces of Soviet society, the elimination of the possibility of economic crises, and the abolition of unemployment.

ARTICLE 119. Citizens of the U.S.S.R. have the right to rest and leisure. The right to rest and leisure is ensured by the reduction of the working day to seven hours for the overwhelming majority of the workers, the institution of annual vacations with full pay for workers and employees and the provision of a wide network of sanatoria, rest homes and clubs for the accommodation of the working people.

ARTICLE 120. Citizens of the U.S.S.R. have the right to maintenance in old age and also in case of sickness or loss of capacity to work. This right is ensured by the extensive development of social insurance of workers and employees at state expense, free medical service for the working people and the provision of a wide network of health resorts for the use of the working people.

ARTICLE 121. Citizens of the U.S.S.R. have the right to education. This right is ensured by universal, compulsory elementary education; by education, including higher education, being free of charge; by the system of state stipends for the overwhelming majority of students in the universities and colleges; by instruction in schools being conducted in the native language, and by the organization in the factories, state farms, machine and tractor stations and collective farms of free vocational, technical and agronomic training for the working people.
...
ARTICLE 128. The inviolability of the homes of citizens and privacy of correspondence are protected by law.
...
ARTICLE 131. It is the duty of every citizen of the U.S.S.R. to safeguard and strengthen public, socialist property as the sacred and inviolable foundation of the Soviet system, as the source of the wealth and might of the country, as the source of the prosperous and cultured life of all the working people.
...

insidethecoldwar.org...

Bernie Sanders is the same old communist bastard he was decades ago. Like Chavez and Maduro, and many other communists/socialists, Bernie Sanders claims this is a new type of socialism, when it is the same old lies that dozens of nations embraced and which caused the suffering of most people, and the economic destruction of those countries which embraced these socialist/communist ideas/principles.






It all sounds nice on paper.
I'd love to have all of those rights...
The problem is that it doesn't work that way.

How about instead, we limit the government to the point that we can have the right to have those things?
Then, we can actually get them if we earn them.

Where I'm sitting now, I'm unable to achieve most of these.

The right to a decent job that pays a living wage
-I earned this job. What's he gonna do, force employers to pay more? That only ensures that no small business can function. Too many worthless humans in the workforce to guarantee a living wage for everyone. You need to earn your keep!
The right to quality health care
-Hah! Sure- I've got 20k in outstanding bills, but all I got out of it was a sling and three months and counting of a sore shoulder. You want the right? Stop promising a "living wage" to any idiot who comes along. Insurance companies make fair billing impossible, higher education makes it so doctors need 200k+ a year, etc. You won't fix the cost of healthcare by making it a right- you'll just raise my taxes to give homeless junkies OD protection. Feck off!
The right to a complete education
-If you say so! The tax paid school was an absolute joke, the college I paid for out of college did nothing for my career. Being able to say I have a degree probably helped get a job- but only because the people hiring grew up in a time where college actually mattered. It's a scam now.
The right to affordable housing
-NOPE! Are you kidding me? An hour away from the city renting a #box is 1200 a month, and I'm in a place where the big city is 66,000 people. minimum wage is somewhere around 8 an hour, so takehome after tax is somewhere around 230 a week. Do the math- half that money goes to bills and transportation to get to and from work, so nobody can afford to live without at least one other person. Two people are cutting it so close that any surprise (need to replace a car?) is enough to bankrupt them.
The right to a clean environment
-Uh, sure. Quit buying oranges that were pre-peeled by someone being paid minimum wage, and sold in a plastic container.... That's a good start, anyway. How the hell is this a right? Does that mean the government is now going to tax me extra to clean up after me?
The right to a secure retirement
-Gotta laugh at this. Never going to happen in our existing fiat currency based system. Anyone who has a clue on how currency works knows this is a bad joke.



posted on Jun, 17 2019 @ 07:43 AM
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a reply to: dfnj2015

What a load of bs..
Just because I dont drink social sanders cool aid doesnt mean I dont want rules in place to regulate business practices.

I've ran my own business for over 20 years and the amount of government regulation goes up every year. I have a full time staff member to deal with all the regulatory garbage Washington imposes.

Please understand, your government set the rules you bitch about so dont expect them to make changes that will make everything all rosy..

Doubly so with bernie sanders.
A career politician that promises to fix everything he hasn't fixed in 40 years.



posted on Jun, 17 2019 @ 07:51 AM
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a reply to: ElectricUniverse
Sanders wants a totalitarian government, a soft despotism.

He’s an authoritarian.

Sad thing is, too many people want it as well.



posted on Jun, 17 2019 @ 07:59 AM
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What these Communists sorry 'Social Democrats' don't tell you is how they want to make people equal. Socialism/Communism usually ends up ripping off the country's wealth making very few people very rich and powerful. They do make the common people equal, they kill the middle class and make everyone equal at the bottom.



posted on Jun, 17 2019 @ 08:47 AM
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a reply to: joemoe

Well when you look back at history capitalists have always been trying to claw their way to the top for most profits as possible. Wealth inequality is inevitable, and many times revolutions have started because of it.

The middle class in nations that have adopted capitalist models as the main driving force is shrinking. Russia is a good example. If you let free enterprise go off the charts it can be a bad thing. But so can full on government control.

But looks like Sanders hasnt even expanded on what he wants. So it's almost redundant to compare him to Stalin.



posted on Jun, 17 2019 @ 08:50 AM
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a reply to: Lumenari

A Hegelian society is not a bad thing tho... its a good thing since its main point is to learn from history and embrace cultural changes over time.



posted on Jun, 17 2019 @ 08:56 AM
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Socialism is Communism lite no matter how you sugar coat it. This experimentation has always led to oppression. You have to oppress the people you stole from to keep yourself in power. Capitalism may not be perfect, but with certain controls and rules in place, it has been the most successful system in sustaining wealth in the population. The problem becomes powerful corporations lobbying for 'their' interests, this can be solve if people stand up against corruption and punish those who are corrupt. This hasn't happened of late, it is about time to change that.



posted on Jun, 17 2019 @ 09:10 AM
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originally posted by: ElectricUniverse
Even though Bernie has tried to sell socialism and communism as something new, his proposal is 100% taken directly from Stalin's Constitution.

Here is an excerpt from Berni's new constitution/economic bill of rights.

[He then set forth his vision of a 21st Century Economic Bill of Rights, which would recognize that all Americans should have:

The right to a decent job that pays a living wage
The right to quality health care
The right to a complete education
The right to affordable housing
The right to a clean environment
The right to a secure retirement
..


Yes, those are completely inhumane targets! You should go all Dallas-Kennedy-style on him.
This is unacceptable!

/s for the unobservant reader.
edit on 17 6 2019 by ManFromEurope because: (no reason given)

edit on 17 6 2019 by ManFromEurope because: (no reason given)



posted on Jun, 17 2019 @ 09:13 AM
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a reply to: joemoe

Somehow, the us-american republican definition of "socialism" would be kind of interesting for me to read about.

It bears no resemblance to socialism of the Western-European style.



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