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Apollo-11 50th media coverage -- all politics all the time?

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posted on Jun, 15 2019 @ 04:39 PM
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A NY Times book review by a Harvard history professor is setting an ideological slant to the mainstream media spin on the Apollo-11 50th anniversary. Here's the piece: www.nytimes.com...

Here are excerpts and my comments:
"The footprints are still there, the striped tread of Neil Armstrong’s boots, caked into dust. ... This summer marks half a century since Armstrong first walked on the moon,..." Uh, aren't you guys overlooking somebody? Buzz who?

"“That’s one small step for man,” Armstrong said, immortally, as he stepped off the ladder of the Lunar Module" -- Another moron writer. Armstrong was already off the ladder, he stepped off the footpad as he referred to his 'small step'.

"Fifty years later, floods made more frequent by the changing of the climate have begun to wash away the Kennedy Space Center in Florida, from which Apollo 11 was launched ..., and hurricanes worsened by the rising of the seas threaten the site of Apollo 11’s mission control, the Johnson Space Center in Texas. " -- Uh, if true, why hasn't the NY Times already reported it?

Professor Lepore refers to " the record-breaking pilot Jerrie Cobb, who in 1961 became the first of 13 women to qualify to become an astronaut. NASA refused to allow them to fly,... She died this spring, at the age of 88. Her footprints are not on the moon."

FACTS: She never qualified. NASA had NO influence in her not flying.

This is fake history of the most irresponsibly inflammatory sort.

Next, the Harvard history professor writes: "Edward Dwight ...became the first black Air Force pilot to be trained at the Aerospace Research Pilot School at Edwards Air Force Base. But... he was all but forced out by his commander, Chuck Yeager, who instructed the other trainees not to speak to him."

FACT: Dwight completed both test pilot courses. He was assigned to a top flight testing job for the US bomber team.

HE WAS NOT FORCED OUT. He was on the USAF list of candidates for the next astronaut selection, and like 3/4 of them, Dwight was not picked by NASA.

The claim about Yeager is fourth-hand gossip contradicted by all other witnesses at the school.

NOT mentioned are few additional complaints from Dwight that provide calibration of this Yeager accusation.

Dwight's other accusations included Yeager's allegedly diabolical scheme to sabotage Dwight's school performance by fiendishly acquiescing to his request for weekends off so he could fly around the country giving speeches, while the other students were allowed extra flying and study time.

Dwight's autobiography also suggestd Yeager had hired male and female prostitutes to approach Dwight at hotel bars while he was on his speaking tours [and not studying], in an attempt to get blackmail photos.

There's a lot more anti-factual fake history in the article. I expect to see these bogus claims all over the media in the coming weeks, and I'd appreciate anybody else coming across them, to report them here.

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posted on Jun, 15 2019 @ 04:47 PM
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a reply to: JimOberg

Journalism really is dead


All we have now is propagandists.



posted on Jun, 15 2019 @ 05:11 PM
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Here's a little more information concerning Captain Edward Dwight.

In J. Alfred Phelps book, They Had a Dream : The Story of African American Astronauts, it is mentioned how the Kennedy Administration was actively looking for qualified black men to get into NASA's astronaut candidate program.

When Capt. Ed Dwight got into the program, Colonel Chuck Yeager knew that Dwight couldn’t pass the requirements to be an astronaut.


Meanwhile, Colonel Yeager’s dim view of Dwight’s abilities grew. Yeager later maintained that Dwight’s abilities were so lacking “we set up a special tutoring program to get him through the academics, as I recall, he lacked the engineering [background] that the other students had.

Yeager further observes that Dwight worked hard, as did his tutors, but adds that “Dwight just couldn’t hack it… didn’t keep up in flying.” Yeager claims to have worked with Dwight on his flying, but he noted that “our students were flying at levels really beyond his experience. The only prejudice against Dwight,” Yeager recalls, wagging a literary finger,” was the conviction that he was not qualified to be in the school” in the first place. (p. 20)





posted on Jun, 15 2019 @ 07:16 PM
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Thanks for getting Yeager's view. Here's another angle on him. The last time Yeager was even a runner-up in any 'Mr. Congeniality' contest was about 1943. He was a hard-ass in a universe of either hard-asses or broken hearts or crippled casualties. Both in WW2 combat [true quote: "The first time I saw a jet, I shot it down"] and as a test pilot he had seen gruesome ways to die all around him, and he realized that some people had the mental steel to remain rational under terror [to think their way out of trouble if there was a methodical way, but which often there wasn't anyway], and others just didn't [they froze, or freaked out]. This trait [the 'right stuff'] rarely made a difference in everyday life, but in combat and test piloting, it was the difference between surviving or destroying both yourself and a very expensive piece of government property. So when he was in charge of the test pilot school, according to men I've talked to who were there, he aggressively challenged EVERY student's total commitment to the profession despite the very high odds of crippling or fatal outcomes -- privately bullying each of them to quit because he sneered that he didn't think they had the stamina and the skills to survive. The best of them doubled down to prove him wrong -- EXACTLY his strategy. Others developed self-doubts [fatal in that profession] and withdrew. Dwight apparently went through the same verbal gauntlet and just assumed it was uniquely aimed at HIM. Since he was convinced he had White House backing, he didn't HAVE to get Yeager's approval.
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posted on Jun, 15 2019 @ 10:29 PM
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The competition to go the the Moon was intense! There were lots of (professional) dirty tricks, to get the slot.

It was a big deal. And, rightfully so.

Sad, there aren't the same overflowing quantity of candidates we had back then to go do it now!!

We don't have candidates who who are so overly qualified as pilots, as engineers, as scientists, that they can use underhanded (professional) tricks to take a competitor out of the game. Instead, we have a whole cadre of people who can play gender and race games to get the "ride" in lieu of true experience and pure "GUTS"!

Sad.



posted on Jun, 15 2019 @ 10:48 PM
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a reply to: JimOberg

Seas have risen one inch. You think this is a joke or something?



posted on Jul, 1 2019 @ 11:24 PM
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originally posted by: LookingAtMars
a reply to: JimOberg

Journalism really is dead


All we have now is propagandists.



They've always been propagandists. It's just much easier to out them these days because we have access to information like never before in history.

What's more discouraging is what we are witnessing now is reverse propagandists where information is placed onto the web and made to look as if it is old information in an attempt to discredit present day information.

Articles, research papers, etc. are planted all over the web and made to appear as if they preceded certain current narratives of today in an effort to debunk them.



posted on Jul, 2 2019 @ 02:43 AM
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wow Jim. Didnt expect this kind of thread on your part.




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