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Trump didn't win because of Russia he won because Clinton was a horrible candidate

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posted on Jun, 15 2019 @ 01:08 PM
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It's funny and sad when you see the Democrats and the media try to say that Trump won the election because of Russia. These people were mentally scarred by Trump's victory because they just new Clinton was going to win. The polls and the exit polls all said she would win in a landslide.

If you watch election night coverage, their faces go from glee to sadness as they realize the tables are turning. I think they were so mentally scarred by Trumps win that they now have Trump Derangement Syndrome.

In fact, I saw this coming.

Am I a Psychic, no. A time traveler, no. I just know that A.I. predictions have become more popular than polls because of big data. When I looked at most of these predictions, they said Trump would win because of the data like 20 million data points vs. a 1,000 people in a poll.


Using an artificial intelligence algorithm that mined social media, MogIA predicted Trump would win when almost no one else did.

Specifically, it scans 20 million data points from public platforms such as Twitter, Google, and Facebook to come up with its predictions. Rai told CNBC that his AI system clearly showed that in any of the elections that MogIA had analysed, the winning candidate was the one that had leading engagement data.

"If Trump loses, it will defy the data trend for the first time in the last 12 years since internet engagement began in full earnest," Rai wrote in a report sent to CNBC on October 28. Not that anyone was listening. Rai also pointed out that Trump had managed to overtake even Barrack Obama's engagement number in 2008 by 25 percent.


www.zdnet.com...

Here's more:


From January 1 to November 6, 2016, Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton amassed a total following of 48,986,921 across Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram. On those three networks, Trump and Clinton’s posts attracted 495,120,770 engagements. Half a billion likes, comments, shares, retweets, and reactions. And most of them went to Trump.

On Facebook, Donald Trump collected a 208,099,876 Facebook engagements and 12 million Facebook fans. Hillary Clinton, who spent early 2016 fending off Bernie Sanders while Trump consolidated support, attracted 72 million engagements and 7.9 million Facebook fans. Her slick mostly image-based campaign won urban voters, but Trump’s grassroots, raw content crowdsourced from rallies was a bigger hit with his fans.

On Twitter, Trump stayed ahead with 89,459,006 total engagements to Hillary’s 41,572,396.

If the general election follows the same pattern as the primaries, the social media data collected indicates that Donald Trump will be the next President.


medium.com...

This wasn't Russia or Putin, people just didn't like or want to engage with Hillary Clinton. Did Putin stop Hillary from visiting Wisconsin? The lust for impeachment is about overturning the election. The Never Trump Republicans who are mostly warmongers and neocons like Bill Krystal and the liberal media which are the Democrats, were mentally scarred by Trump's victory.

They could have saw it coming if they would have paid attention to AI predictions. Today, they still haven't learned. Each network should have a Chief Data Scientist that looks at A.I. predictions and Big Data and it will be easier to see trends than with a 500 or 1,000 person poll. People today will tell pollsters anything but 20 million data points can tell you a lot more.

Here's more headlines from back then. All they had to do was look!

An artificial intelligence system that correctly predicted the last 3 elections says Trump will win

www.businessinsider.com...

AI system that correctly predicted last 3 US elections says Donald Trump will win

www.independent.co.uk... -artificial-a7384671.html

Trump will win the election and is more popular than Obama in 2008, AI system finds

www.cnbc.com...

Who predicted the Trump win? A computer and a professor, that's who.

www.ajc.com...

So again, this wasn't a surprise. I think I saw one of these Data Scientist on CNBC for a short segment before the election. The media was in a hate Trump frenzy and all they could see was a Clinton victory so they just ignored all of the data that said otherwise.




posted on Jun, 15 2019 @ 01:21 PM
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a reply to: neoholographic

She lost because the Founding Fathers are always watching over us. God bless them.



posted on Jun, 15 2019 @ 01:23 PM
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a reply to: neoholographic

wrong


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posted on Jun, 15 2019 @ 01:32 PM
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originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: neoholographic

wrong


I always look forward to your in-depth and penetrating insightful analyses of political issues. Good job!


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posted on Jun, 15 2019 @ 01:41 PM
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originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: neoholographic

wrong

Still sticking with Russia, eh?
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posted on Jun, 15 2019 @ 01:49 PM
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Yes, she was a horrible candidate. She was the status quo machines champion, neither to far to the left nor to far to the right. She was a centrist who pushed a neo liberal agenda(which is not liberal by the way) which was then painted by the far right as a socialist agenda.

She did not appeal to that far right nor did she appeal to any people of more left of center deliberations. Those on the right who did not like her voted for Trump, an abomination preferred over her and she certainly did not appeal enough to all the more liberal in the country who just stayed at home and did not vote at all.

The mistakes of that election were in those who overestimated Trumps abilities and those who underestimated is destructive capabliities. We are all paying the price though some can see it while others will take longer.

Because of his victory, those who overestimate him are still on his train while those who underestimated him will have recognized their mistake and be at the booths in2020


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posted on Jun, 15 2019 @ 01:54 PM
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originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: neoholographic

wrong


Christ now I have to re-asses everything I've already figured out dammit !!! 😬



posted on Jun, 15 2019 @ 01:56 PM
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a reply to: neoholographic

While I agree that Hillary was/is a horrible candidate, so was/is Trump.

How can a 21st Century, 1st world, democratic country not have chosen the best candidates for the job from each of the respective political parties?

Something is very broken in the US electoral process.

Also, many members on ATS keep repeating the now debunked political smears against Hillary, that were broadcast as part of the Russian campaign of disinformation.

Ask yourself, how did we come to our conclusions about Hillary... or Trump? Could we have been the target the Russian misinformation?

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posted on Jun, 15 2019 @ 01:57 PM
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Good post. I happen to agree. I have nothing against democrats...but could you imagine where we would be if she made it to the White House? Trump is not even close to perfect but she was really a loose cannon. I was planning on voting for her because she was a woman and I'd like to see a woman president in my lifetime. But, the further things got, the scarier she became. Now, I think voting is a joke. I really believe we are headed towards another cival war before anything political changes. We need to drop the titles of Rep./Demo. and go to one person per state representing the state. (That gets rid of the squabbling between sides.) Then go by popular vote for President. I can't help but wonder if we ever did have a cival war, would people give up their electronic devices to go fight for a cause?



posted on Jun, 15 2019 @ 01:58 PM
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"The Democrats and the media"
Jfc, if I hear this again, I'm going to vomit.
This is supposed to be ATS, not CNN's ex comment board.

The gov has bought, infiltrated and censored the news and almost all of the internet and electronic communication now.

The same AI told the gov they suck, people are getting sick of them and they need an outsider to run.
Along came anti-establishment Trump vs. known corrupt, establishment, crony Clinton.

I think we are fd as a country, if even the conspiracy people at ats can't understand politics.
I mean, it was kind of interesting watching everyone latch onto politics all at once when it started hitting the internet 24/7.
People who don't even know the branches of gov. are getting cocky about their "side," when being herded like a dumb sheep into taking a side.

On another note, along with the power taken from our paychecks and used against us like on our electronics, it's not surprising to see them weaponize ai against us too.

Think about that for a second... These guys can't be trusted with tax dollars anymore.
Every single gd move is made to increase power and control.

Don't forget to get out there and vote people.


Added... I'm going to be taking a break from politics here for a while, I'll tryn' check back in on some more interesting topics later.
The 24/7 intentional division in politics is getting too toxic for my taste.
Good job putting together the op though.
Follow the money dudes
I'm out



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posted on Jun, 15 2019 @ 02:10 PM
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originally posted by: Trueman
a reply to: neoholographic

She lost because the Founding Fathers are always watching over us. God bless them.


... or, Trump won because the founding fathers are dead and they started all this partisan stuff, so, damn them, their knickerbockers and their stockings!


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posted on Jun, 15 2019 @ 02:16 PM
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originally posted by: smcneil01
Good post. I happen to agree. I have nothing against democrats...but could you imagine where we would be if she made it to the White House? Trump is not even close to perfect but she was really a loose cannon. I was planning on voting for her because she was a woman and I'd like to see a woman president in my lifetime. But, the further things got, the scarier she became. Now, I think voting is a joke. I really believe we are headed towards another cival war before anything political changes. We need to drop the titles of Rep./Demo. and go to one person per state representing the state. (That gets rid of the squabbling between sides.) Then go by popular vote for President. I can't help but wonder if we ever did have a cival war, would people give up their electronic devices to go fight for a cause?


Exactly!

The reason the Never Trumpers a.k.a. warmonger neocons wanted Clinton because they knew she would go after Assad. If Clinton won, there's no doubt in my mind that we would be in a war with Syria right now.

When Trump gave a speech against nation building, regime change and blasted the Iraq War the neocons were furious.

They want war in the Middle East and have talked about spreading Democracy through regime change for years. The 3 main places the neocons want are Iraq, Iran and Syria. They have the Iraq war, Clinton would have given them Syria and now they're trying to push Trump to go to war with Iran.

The biggest mistake Trump has made is bringing in Warmonger in Chief, John Bolton as the National Security Advisory. Sheldon Adelson, wanted Bolton in that position and he too wants war with Iran.

I hope Trump can resist but if that tanker explosion was a false flag, expect a bigger one coming that will force Trump to bomb Iran.



posted on Jun, 15 2019 @ 02:17 PM
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I don't see any decent Democratic candidates yet that could beat Trump. Bernie was the only one I felt had a chance last time, Hillary was too corrupt and disregarded any rules she was supposed to follow, she was not a good candidate.

The amount of Democratic candidates up for the election is a negative, they should only have about five or they are going to have too many Democratic voters pissed because their candidate did not get in, that means they will swing independent as voters. I am speculating that the Democrats do not have a chance, no matter who runs on the Republican ticket, the Republicans will take the white house again. The Dems have really been screwing up in politics, they feel people are doped up on meds and improper foods or are reliant on the financial support system and they will vote them in. But the Republicans are trying to bring in new jobs that might raise incomes for people instead of sending that money overseas.

I predict a Republican win, even though I feel Trump should now pass the white house on to another person before he winds up having health issues, he should get out of politics and enjoy the rest of his life. He has a wife and kids, he has tried his best to fix the country but is running into all sorts of irrational twisted resistance from the left and the left backing media. The media should beware, the Democrats if they get into the white house will knock out the rights of the media, they know how corrupt the media can be firsthand. Media is being used and they do not even realize it.



posted on Jun, 15 2019 @ 02:39 PM
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a reply to: butcherguy

Tiny brains don't consider they might be wrong.



posted on Jun, 15 2019 @ 02:50 PM
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a reply to: neoholographic

You nailed it...
The dems thought they could win by not running an old straight white man.
So what happens?
Their top two candidates for 2020 are even older straight white men..


Trump 2020!!!



posted on Jun, 15 2019 @ 03:06 PM
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a reply to: Bluntone22

SSSSShhhhh stop with the "fish slap to the face" reality.

"it's Different".

....."He's evolving"...




Trump 2020

"Let's Squash Amash"!

"I Stump for Trump!



posted on Jun, 15 2019 @ 03:38 PM
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a reply to: smcneil01

I agree with almost everything you said besides national popular vote. That would mean 3 states would decide the presidency maybe even 4 California new York Texas and Florida the rest of the states wouldn't matter.



posted on Jun, 15 2019 @ 04:00 PM
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For one thing it can definitely be both.. those things are not mutually exclusive.

Your whole premise is a joke considering that almost nothing has a single cause.. definitely nothing like elections..

Say only 1% was Russia.. well if he won by 1%....

But obviously the majority of it was that Clinton was a horrible candidate....

No one liked her.. she literally didn’t excite a single American..



AND TRUMP STILL COULDNT WIN THE POPULAR VOTE AGAINST HER!!!!


Lol



posted on Jun, 15 2019 @ 04:01 PM
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a reply to: smcneil01

Voting is a joke.



posted on Jun, 15 2019 @ 04:13 PM
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originally posted by: JustJohnny
a reply to: neoholographic

For one thing it can definitely be both.. those things are not mutually exclusive.

Your whole premise is a joke considering that almost nothing has a single cause.. definitely nothing like elections..

Say only 1% was Russia.. well if he won by 1%....

But obviously the majority of it was that Clinton was a horrible candidate....

No one liked her.. she literally didn’t excite a single American..



AND TRUMP STILL COULDNT WIN THE POPULAR VOTE AGAINST HER!!!!


Lol


What? Didn't you read the OP?

There's no way it could have been Russia. The data showed things like Trump had over 200 million Facebook engagements to 72 million for Hillary. It showed Trump had a 25% higher engagement number than Obama in 2008 at the height of his popularity.

This had zero to do with Russia. Russia couldn't manipulate and fake 20 million data points. If they could though, then the AI predictions would have been wrong not the polls.

Finally, we have an electoral college so it doesn't matter if Clinton gets millions of votes from California that makes things lopsided.



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