posted on Jun, 13 2019 @ 10:42 PM
"My idea is that if you give certain people baby steps to understand that work is the way to being responsible then if they take that step they might
start understanding how things actually work."
But not all alcoholics are people who don't know how to follow rules or don't know how to work or how to be responsible. In fact, people might be
surprised at how many "successful" people are raging alcoholics. A lot of alcoholics are actually highly talented, highly intelligent, type A
Some of them get lucky, like Subaeruginosa said. And some have people who will cover for them and clean up their messes and protect them. Some don't
have that, and don't get lucky, and crash and burn eventually. I'm an example of that. I had an incredibly competitive, incredibly difficult-to-get
job, which I got because I worked my ass off and became one of the best at what I do. Then in my late 20's, my alcoholism activated BIG time, and as
is typical of some women alcoholics, I went down FAST. Blackout drinking and having to drink around the clock, and it caught up witth me eventually
via missing a job, which you do NOT do in the position I had, due to its high-profile nature.
So I lost that and everything else, but it sure wasn't because I needed to understand that "work is the way to being responsible."
Your plan has promise, but there should be more categories and therefore different rules, etc, for different general situations. There are alcoholic
bums who also have serious mental issues, and those need to be addressed. Then there are alcoholic/addict bums who just had the bad luck and/or ran
out of people and family who would help them, but they don't have major mental issues. Then you have just your bums with straight-up mental issues
that won't be able to follow your rules because they can't function in society with their illnesses. Then bums who don't have drug or alcohol problems
or serious mental issues, but just who don't like to work. Those are the ones that might benefit from your "show them that work is the way to being
Probably ALL of them suffer with depression, though.
Anyway, good thread. It's a daunting issue, no doubt. 😢