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Iran responsible for 'blatant assault' on oil tankers in Gulf of Oman, Mike Pompeo says

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posted on Jun, 13 2019 @ 03:23 PM
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originally posted by: olaru12

originally posted by: CriticalStinker
a reply to: pravdaseeker

Pompeo's word for it without evidence is as good as Bolton's.

And that statement makes no sense, as it would imply it's measurable.


Anything that comes out of Fox, Pompeo or Bolton should be suspect considering their fast an loose concept of the truth and their past neocon connections. Swampy as it gets!!

www.theatlantic.com...



Are you saying that less than 24 hours may not be enough time for an adequate investigation? That maybe they are speaking off "bad intel" (assuming that could exist, which it probably doesn't... Since we're super awesome and all that)?

Either way, I think they should operate on ask for forgiveness, not permission. It's been the shining light of our foreign policy.




posted on Jun, 13 2019 @ 03:24 PM
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originally posted by: burdman30ott6
a reply to: odzeandennz

So, I'm drinking Kool Aid when all I am doing is accepting Iran's own words at face value? THEY have threatened to attack commercial vessels in Hormuz. THEY have said they were escalating their uranium enrichment program with the intent of weapons manufacturing. THEY have spent my entire life screaming for "death to the great American Satan." While I enjoy my "Kool Aid" pull your goddamned head out of the sand and realize that the ones who shout threats the loudest will naturally and logically be the first ones turned towards when attacks actually happen and the culprits are sought.


I say all kinds of crazy things. Should the US be held accountable for my words?



posted on Jun, 13 2019 @ 03:26 PM
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a reply to: burdman30ott6


If Iran attacked those two ships there will be and should be a direct, devastating military response targeting Iran in general and their government and government infrastructure specifically.


We should borrow a few trillion dollars to get prepared. That will show them. Now lets go "solve" other regions problems with the US taxpayers money. 'MERICA, dishing out freedom and handouts.



posted on Jun, 13 2019 @ 03:29 PM
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a reply to: burdman30ott6

The Iranians mined the strait in the 80s I believe the US response was to escort commercial ships with military vessels through the strait, Persian gulf area.

I think something similar to that would be the appropriate response now if it is proven Iran set those mines to attack those tankers.

Then the Iranians risk attacking military escort vessels which would then draw an overwhelming military response.

imo



posted on Jun, 13 2019 @ 03:37 PM
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originally posted by: DukeMisterio

originally posted by: burdman30ott6
a reply to: odzeandennz

So, I'm drinking Kool Aid when all I am doing is accepting Iran's own words at face value? THEY have threatened to attack commercial vessels in Hormuz. THEY have said they were escalating their uranium enrichment program with the intent of weapons manufacturing. THEY have spent my entire life screaming for "death to the great American Satan." While I enjoy my "Kool Aid" pull your goddamned head out of the sand and realize that the ones who shout threats the loudest will naturally and logically be the first ones turned towards when attacks actually happen and the culprits are sought.


I say all kinds of crazy things. Should the US be held accountable for my words?


If you're one of the leaders of the US, then YES! That is how it works. When the Ayatollah makes a threat and then an attack eerily related to that threat happens, then the country represented by the leader who made that threat is on the hook.



posted on Jun, 13 2019 @ 03:43 PM
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originally posted by: ausername
a reply to: burdman30ott6

The Iranians mined the strait in the 80s I believe the US response was to escort commercial ships with military vessels through the strait, Persian gulf area.

I think something similar to that would be the appropriate response now if it is proven Iran set those mines to attack those tankers.

Then the Iranians risk attacking military escort vessels which would then draw an overwhelming military response.

imo


True, but we had Hussein taking a major toll on Iran at that time, now we do not.



posted on Jun, 13 2019 @ 03:45 PM
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originally posted by: The GUT
The powder keg of historical malfeasance is set to blow. Yet again. Bigger & Better this time by most accounts.



I prefer this version... being a Canadian



youtu.be...



posted on Jun, 13 2019 @ 03:50 PM
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Evidence?
Looks like they'll be able to defuse and examine this.


Unexploded device spotted on one of attacked oil tankers: U.S. source

www.reuters.com...



posted on Jun, 13 2019 @ 03:55 PM
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originally posted by: burdman30ott6
a reply to: odzeandennz

So, I'm drinking Kool Aid when all I am doing is accepting Iran's own words at face value? THEY have threatened to attack commercial vessels in Hormuz. THEY have said they were escalating their uranium enrichment program with the intent of weapons manufacturing. THEY have spent my entire life screaming for "death to the great American Satan." While I enjoy my "Kool Aid" pull your goddamned head out of the sand and realize that the ones who shout threats the loudest will naturally and logically be the first ones turned towards when attacks actually happen and the culprits are sought.



This is from the report of the UAE after the attack that happened on the 7th of this month..




What does the report say happened?

According to the UAE-led investigation, which was presented to a closed session of the UN Security Council in New York, the attacks showed a "high degree of sophistication".
"The attacks required the expert navigation of fast boats" which "were able to intrude into UAE territorial waters", the report's preliminary findings say.
Divers were used to attack the ships using limpet mines in order to cause damage but not cause a major explosion, the presentation says



Because if you're Iran, crippled with sanctions and a crumbling economy, what you do is attack a ship in broad daylight while the entire world is watching... Then deny it.. Then a week later, while the last attack still fresh with investigators on alert, attack 2 more ships just for the lulz...
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posted on Jun, 13 2019 @ 03:58 PM
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a reply to: spiritualarchitect




It seems we can, since the Democratic party does that everyday here in the United States.


name one...I'll go tit for tat on stupid lies trump says.... I will win and you know it



posted on Jun, 13 2019 @ 04:06 PM
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originally posted by: IAMTAT
Evidence?
Looks like they'll be able to defuse and examine this.


Unexploded device spotted on one of attacked oil tankers: U.S. source

www.reuters.com...


Will be major egg on the face of Pompeo/US intel if the reports it was a limpet mine are true.



posted on Jun, 13 2019 @ 04:07 PM
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originally posted by: odzeandennz
Because if you're Iran, crippled with sanctions and a crumbling economy, what you do is attack a ship in broad daylight while the entire world is watching... Then deny it.. Then a week later, while the last attack still fresh with investigators on alert, attack 2 more ships just for the lulz...


You're trying to apply logic to a country that executes people for homosexuality and extramarital sex.



posted on Jun, 13 2019 @ 04:07 PM
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a reply to: odzeandennz


Because if you're Iran, crippled with sanctions and a crumbling economy, what you do is attack a ship in broad daylight while the entire world is watching... Then deny it.. Then a week later, while the last attack still fresh with investigators on alert, attack 2 more ships just for the lulz...


I say we should counter troll them by borrowing money plus interest to attack them.

A. We'd get to kill a whole bunch of Iranians.

B. That added debt will get passed to our young bitchy and spoiled generations, which will make them work harder and give them character.



posted on Jun, 13 2019 @ 04:09 PM
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originally posted by: burdman30ott6

originally posted by: odzeandennz
Because if you're Iran, crippled with sanctions and a crumbling economy, what you do is attack a ship in broad daylight while the entire world is watching... Then deny it.. Then a week later, while the last attack still fresh with investigators on alert, attack 2 more ships just for the lulz...


You're trying to apply logic to a country that executes people for homosexuality and extramarital sex.


No, im trying to apply logic to rules of engaging another country with militaristic intent.



posted on Jun, 13 2019 @ 04:26 PM
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originally posted by: bastion

originally posted by: IAMTAT
Evidence?
Looks like they'll be able to defuse and examine this.


Unexploded device spotted on one of attacked oil tankers: U.S. source

www.reuters.com...


Will be major egg on the face of Pompeo/US intel if the reports it was a limpet mine are true.


Or another nail in the Mullah's coffins.



posted on Jun, 13 2019 @ 04:46 PM
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originally posted by: openedeyesandears

I prefer this version... being a Canadian


youtu.be...


My sincere condolences but that is a cool version.
Just kidding about the condolences, I'm rather fond of you Canucks.

Here's my question I've been batting around with The MSgt---my 94-yr old retired (27-yrs USAF) father.

Neither he nor I have much respect for any of the conflicts after WWII. Respect for our soldiers of course don't get me wrong. Korea can be argued a bit and gets a "pass." His career spanned WWII through Vietnam.

But our question we've been bopping around is this: Is a nuclear-armed Iran something the rest of the world should let happen? It's like WW III potential either way it seems, just a question of when.
edit on 13-6-2019 by The GUT because: (no reason given)



posted on Jun, 13 2019 @ 05:04 PM
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I could see it being a rogue faction of the Iranian military doing this "for Allah".



posted on Jun, 13 2019 @ 05:08 PM
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a reply to: The GUT

While I may have a different position.... You presented that very well and I just wanted to say that.

But my favorite part -

But our question we've been bopping around is this: Is a nuclear-armed Iran something the rest of the world should let happen?


Yes, if it does happen, it should be a combined effort, where many chip in, and we're not stuck with the bill.

Edit: though I'd prefer war not happen at all.
edit on 13-6-2019 by CriticalStinker because: (no reason given)



posted on Jun, 13 2019 @ 05:10 PM
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originally posted by: AnakinWayneII
a reply to: roadgravel

If so, this is THE poorest and most pathetic attempt at a "false flag".


They have prep'ed the people well enough that a lot of work isn't need. People will believe without any actual proof, not just claimed. You can see in threads here there are people who are ready for war just it is the "right" thing to do.



posted on Jun, 13 2019 @ 05:22 PM
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a reply to: CriticalStinker



and we're not stuck with the bill.


War and military spending for the US has become like Jello.

They is always room for Jello war.



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