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posted on Jun, 13 2019 @ 12:37 PM
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No it isn't...

Being broke while living in America is like having the slowest Ferrari.

Our standard of living is very high even for the poorest people. I am not saying it is all roses, but there is absolutely no comparison between broke in the US and say broke in Mexico.

There is a reason immigrants wants to come to the US. Even to be moderately successful here is a huge upgrade from their home countries.




posted on Jun, 13 2019 @ 12:43 PM
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Its only a matter of time.before you can get the right wingers having to repeat the same tired crap over and over and over hypocritically having to defend corporate welfare or starve kids to death because their parents are losers

Hilarious watching the nutjobs have to take these positions



posted on Jun, 13 2019 @ 12:50 PM
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a reply to: toysforadults

If you care so much about starving kids.

Stop outsourcing it to the state using theft by force to make yourselves feel better.



posted on Jun, 13 2019 @ 12:56 PM
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a reply to: Edumakated




Being broke while living in America is like having the slowest Ferrari.


...without having the slowest Ferrari, of course.

Do you even enjoy your own absurdities or is this some sort of boring dayjob with textbook answers you guys throw around to get a paycheck?



posted on Jun, 13 2019 @ 01:01 PM
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the concept of 'enough' seems to escape those with a manic desire to accumulate ever more, and more, and more. i am puzzled by those with millions/billions who still feel the need to get richer. i consider it a sickness.



posted on Jun, 13 2019 @ 01:05 PM
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originally posted by: PublicOpinion

originally posted by: TheSteppenwolf
a reply to: PublicOpinion




Is it? Or is it a problem cuz it causes more problems?


It seems the only problem is that it makes people opine about the rich. I guess it could be worse.


It seems someone didn't read the article. Could be worse tho.

There are rich people, and then there are spindocs with vested interests in the status quo. And while you can still have a good debate with real people, the latter are merely a pain in the ass.

Kinda entertaining tho, keep up the good work!


There are also spindocs with a vested interest in damaging the status quo based on a pretty obvious cognitive bias. So if you cannot clearly state your concerns with wealth inequality, just like the author of your article, then I suspect you fall into that category.



posted on Jun, 13 2019 @ 01:06 PM
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originally posted by: Edumakated
No it isn't...

Being broke while living in America is like having the slowest Ferrari.

Our standard of living is very high even for the poorest people. I am not saying it is all roses, but there is absolutely no comparison between broke in the US and say broke in Mexico.

There is a reason immigrants wants to come to the US. Even to be moderately successful here is a huge upgrade from their home countries.


It's ironic that one of the consequences of being poor in developed countries is obesity.



posted on Jun, 13 2019 @ 01:19 PM
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a reply to: TheSteppenwolf




There are also spindocs with a vested interest in damaging the status quo based on a pretty obvious cognitive bias.


Sure. Those anti-staus quo terrorists are so fcking wealthy, it's a real shame they can sway public opinion with PR jobs (like this thread) all the time. Good one!



So if you cannot clearly state your concerns with wealth inequality, just like the author of your article, then I suspect you fall into that category.


Poor chap, you need some evidence that the earth travels around the sun as well?

You're always free to leave when this laser focus on socialism for the rich is too much to bear. Did you find something for your spin already? Can't be that hard when wealth inequality is a non issue, amirite?

We'll wait.



posted on Jun, 13 2019 @ 01:21 PM
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originally posted by: PublicOpinion
a reply to: TheSteppenwolf




There are also spindocs with a vested interest in damaging the status quo based on a pretty obvious cognitive bias.


Sure. Those anti-staus quo terrorists are so fcking wealthy, it's a real shame they can sway public opinion with PR jobs (like this thread) all the time. Good one!



So if you cannot clearly state your concerns with wealth inequality, just like the author of your article, then I suspect you fall into that category.


Poor chap, you need some evidence that the earth travels around the sun as well?

You're always free to leave when this laser focus on socialism for the rich is too much to bear. Did you find something for your spin already? Can't be that hard when wealth inequality is a non issue, amirite?

We'll wait.


Still no answer. I'll help. "Wealth inequality is bad because...". That should get you started.



posted on Jun, 13 2019 @ 01:30 PM
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originally posted by: TheSteppenwolf

originally posted by: PublicOpinion
a reply to: TheSteppenwolf




There are also spindocs with a vested interest in damaging the status quo based on a pretty obvious cognitive bias.


Sure. Those anti-staus quo terrorists are so fcking wealthy, it's a real shame they can sway public opinion with PR jobs (like this thread) all the time. Good one!



So if you cannot clearly state your concerns with wealth inequality, just like the author of your article, then I suspect you fall into that category.


Poor chap, you need some evidence that the earth travels around the sun as well?

You're always free to leave when this laser focus on socialism for the rich is too much to bear. Did you find something for your spin already? Can't be that hard when wealth inequality is a non issue, amirite?

We'll wait.


Still no answer. I'll help. "Wealth inequality is bad because...". That should get you started.


This is a common tactic with liberals. They latch on to some trendy term with a very vague definition and then can't cite anything specific as to why it is bad or an example when pressed.

I live in a very liberal / progressive town. Our town politicians are literally writing a "diversity statement" and it is full of terms like systems of oppression, institutional racism, etc. A few of us conservatives keep asking them to point out these systems of oppression and institutional racism in our town so we can actually go fix the problem and yet all we get are crickets....

You'd think giving some specific examples as how wealth inequality is bad should be relatively easy to do....



posted on Jun, 13 2019 @ 01:40 PM
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originally posted by: Edumakated

originally posted by: TheSteppenwolf

originally posted by: PublicOpinion
a reply to: TheSteppenwolf




There are also spindocs with a vested interest in damaging the status quo based on a pretty obvious cognitive bias.


Sure. Those anti-staus quo terrorists are so fcking wealthy, it's a real shame they can sway public opinion with PR jobs (like this thread) all the time. Good one!



So if you cannot clearly state your concerns with wealth inequality, just like the author of your article, then I suspect you fall into that category.


Poor chap, you need some evidence that the earth travels around the sun as well?

You're always free to leave when this laser focus on socialism for the rich is too much to bear. Did you find something for your spin already? Can't be that hard when wealth inequality is a non issue, amirite?

We'll wait.


Still no answer. I'll help. "Wealth inequality is bad because...". That should get you started.


This is a common tactic with liberals. They latch on to some trendy term with a very vague definition and then can't cite anything specific as to why it is bad or an example when pressed.

I live in a very liberal / progressive town. Our town politicians are literally writing a "diversity statement" and it is full of terms like systems of oppression, institutional racism, etc. A few of us conservatives keep asking them to point out these systems of oppression and institutional racism in our town so we can actually go fix the problem and yet all we get are crickets....

You'd think giving some specific examples as how wealth inequality is bad should be relatively easy to do....


Crazy. I worry such policies and actions benefit the politicians and their standing within their progressive circles rather than any flesh and blood human beings. But at the same time they are giving themselves more power.



posted on Jun, 13 2019 @ 01:47 PM
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a reply to: TheSteppenwolf

"Rising numbers of child-poverty are great because this way everyone gets to drive the slowest Ferrari..."

This should get you started as well. Surprise me with laying out a non-issue, how's that?



posted on Jun, 13 2019 @ 01:51 PM
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originally posted by: PublicOpinion
a reply to: TheSteppenwolf

"Rising numbers of child-poverty are great because this way everyone gets to drive the slowest Ferrari..."

This should get you started as well. Surprise me with laying out a non-issue, how's that?


Child poverty is awful, and never stated otherwise. But we're not talking about child poverty. We're talking about wealth inequality.

"Wealth inequality is bad because..."



posted on Jun, 13 2019 @ 01:52 PM
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a reply to: Edumakated




You'd think giving some specific examples as how wealth inequality is bad should be relatively easy to do....


#TooEasy

Nice tactic tho. Just cherrypick on a single aspect in a detailed piece and demand to have common sense and no-brainers explained. And with doing so you can literally derail pretty much every intelligent conversation.

Not bad, I'll give you that.
edit on 13-6-2019 by PublicOpinion because: (no reason given)



posted on Jun, 13 2019 @ 02:08 PM
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originally posted by: PublicOpinion
a reply to: Edumakated




You'd think giving some specific examples as how wealth inequality is bad should be relatively easy to do....


#TooEasy

Nice tactic tho. Just cherrypick on a single aspect in a detailed piece and demand to have common sense and no-brainers explained. And with doing so you can literally derail pretty much every intelligent conversation.

Not bad, I'll give you that.


Still waiting...



posted on Jun, 13 2019 @ 02:20 PM
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a reply to: Edumakated

I hope you brought some time, maybe someone else is willing to explain Captain Obvious?

You idiots from the Corporate Defense League can't even work out the correlation of rising child poverty and rising wealth inequality. Why bother?

Looks like we're all waiting for something here. Maybe start to read the article now?



posted on Jun, 13 2019 @ 02:26 PM
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originally posted by: TheSteppenwolf

originally posted by: PublicOpinion
a reply to: TheSteppenwolf

"Rising numbers of child-poverty are great because this way everyone gets to drive the slowest Ferrari..."

This should get you started as well. Surprise me with laying out a non-issue, how's that?


Child poverty is awful, and never stated otherwise. But we're not talking about child poverty. We're talking about wealth inequality.

"Wealth inequality is bad because..."


They will have no answer for that because all they know is that they have been told that they are victims and people with more money is the problem.

Then they are told that if only you give _______ more power over those bad people we will punish them for you and give you stuff.

It's as infantile a concept as Bernie's speech about the rich "emassing" a huge amount of money and that's bad.

Now, a rational person knows that money is fluid... it is constantly moving. The evil rich people do not stash everything they have in a mattress.

No, their money is in the markets providing capital (also helping Joe Sixpack's 401k), they have companies that provide jobs, they have it in a bank where the bank can use it to extend loans, etc.

All they know is "I want more stuff and this politician can do that for me."

No concept of anything beyond self.

Which is why they are so easily fooled.




posted on Jun, 13 2019 @ 02:28 PM
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Lets just go ahead and pretend the extremely rich doesn't lobby to have legislation passed (or lack thereof) thats in the interest of remaining extremely rich and not for the American people.

Lets go ahead and pretend that monopolies and collusion between coporate entities don't exist -

Lets all go ahead and pretend we love "capitalism" so much that we don't even practice it.



posted on Jun, 13 2019 @ 02:30 PM
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If work was the way out of poverty there would be countless millions of very rich people.

Fact is, nowdays work isn't a way out of poverty. Work nowdays makes rich people even richer and poor people even poorer. How many low paid workers have to claim top-up benefits? But the pay-gap between theirs and their CEO bosses' is now a vast chasm and continues to expand further so it's clear to see where all the increased profits are going. How bad will it get? Will poor workers soon be paid with just a food parcel and the CEO takes all the cash?

It's up to workers to change things. But society of late has been too fragmented to unite and go on strike or something drastic like that, but that's what it needs. A general strike harshly reminds bosses and govts that when workers don't work, nobody gets rich. Stopping their money pouring in, even temporarily, is the only thing that will get their attention because nothing else seems to interest them.



posted on Jun, 13 2019 @ 02:35 PM
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a reply to: AScrubWhoDied




Lets all go ahead and pretend we love "capitalism" so much that we don't even practice it.


The comment of the day, way too deep for most of us tho. It's a pity.





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