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Socialism for the Rich

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posted on Jun, 13 2019 @ 10:20 AM
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originally posted by: TheSteppenwolf
a reply to: PublicOpinion




Is it? Or is it a problem cuz it causes more problems?


It seems the only problem is that it makes people opine about the rich. I guess it could be worse.


It seems someone didn't read the article. Could be worse tho.

There are rich people, and then there are spindocs with vested interests in the status quo. And while you can still have a good debate with real people, the latter are merely a pain in the ass.

Kinda entertaining tho, keep up the good work!




posted on Jun, 13 2019 @ 10:22 AM
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originally posted by: PublicOpinion
a reply to: dfnj2015



People crave subjugation. It's people's natural state.


That's what "They" want us to believe. Yes.
Bite the hand that feeds, it's my people's natural state of mind.





"Take a bite of my bacon torpedo!"



posted on Jun, 13 2019 @ 10:26 AM
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a reply to: 0zzymand0s

Not really...

How is it bad.... be specific. How is it bad that someone manages to make a ton of money doing a job or providing a service or product?

The lady that created Harry Potter is a billionaire. The lady that created Spanx is a billionaire. How did they steal this money or their gains from creating something that people all over the world want bad?



posted on Jun, 13 2019 @ 10:41 AM
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a reply to: dfnj2015

A billionaire's income has nothing to do with your healthcare. You could tax the 1% 100% in the US and it still wouldn't be enough.

When was the last time a broke person gave you a job?

Bill Gates has employed hundreds of thousands of people. He has made tens of thousands of his employees millionaires. The ancillary business that also create jobs and wealth from doing business with Microsoft is beyond calculation.

We haven't even gotten into all the charitable giving not just from him, but others he has made wealthy....



posted on Jun, 13 2019 @ 10:45 AM
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a reply to: Edumakated

You're wasting your time.
Successful people are evil...except for musk...
Hes great....ugh...



posted on Jun, 13 2019 @ 10:55 AM
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a reply to: Bluntone22

Also, there is no such thing as socialism for the rich. It's just envy, ya know...

Let's stop analyzing the past decades for good, some rich fcks could be offended by the findings!



posted on Jun, 13 2019 @ 11:08 AM
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originally posted by: PublicOpinion
a reply to: Bluntone22

Also, there is no such thing as socialism for the rich. It's just envy, ya know...

Let's stop analyzing the past decades for good, some rich fcks could be offended by the findings!


I think most of us are against socialism for the rich. For example, I was against bank bailouts, corporate subsidies, lobbying, etc. However, that does not mean I am for redistributing wealth from those that earned it to those that didn't.

What is ironic to me is that often times the socialism for the rich is enabled by an over regulations of industry and political power. Yet, the solution that most on the left seem to promote would just make the problem worse by further enabling government to pick winners and losers.



posted on Jun, 13 2019 @ 11:17 AM
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It's a waste of time to even try to argue with the usual suspects that think net worth = wage.



posted on Jun, 13 2019 @ 11:23 AM
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a reply to: Edumakated



What is ironic to me is that often times the socialism for the rich is enabled by an over regulations of industry and political power.


Yeah. Except that the opposite is the case here, nice try. At least try to wrap your head around the article? You can't say they've earned it when you already admit that they didn't.



I think most of us are against socialism for the rich. For example, I was against bank bailouts, corporate subsidies, lobbying, etc. However, that does not mean I am for redistributing wealth from those that earned it to those that didn't.


You can't have your cake and eat it. How can you be against this kinda socialism for the rich when you shy away from correcting it's mistakes? This is not how this works, that's lip service of the most inconsequent kind.

Do you know what an enabler looks like? Try a mirror!
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posted on Jun, 13 2019 @ 11:25 AM
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originally posted by: 0zzymand0s

originally posted by: ColeYounger
a reply to: strongfp
In a healthy society, wealth is admired. In a sick society, wealth is despised.


Fair enough. Do you think it is possible that societies become "unhealthy" because wealth is concentrated the way it is and to such ridiculous extremes?


Short answer, no. You can't possibly deny that in our capitalist economy, (as imperfect as it may be) you have an opportunity to become wealthy. There are new millionaires made every day. Some by working their asses off, others just by being clever and creating a product or service. You can't refute that.

How is the concentration of wealth making society unhealthy?

The logical individual sees the opportunity. The illogical person complains that since they're not wealthy, life must be unfair. As The Steppenwolf so eloquently phrased it, it's a zero-sum game with these people.

Yes, wealth is concentrated in ridiculous extremes, as you say, but are Jeff Bezos, Warren Buffet, or Bill Gates
keeping you or anyone else from becoming wealthy? On the contrary, they're proof that you can do it too.



posted on Jun, 13 2019 @ 11:32 AM
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a reply to: PublicOpinion

Not really.

Since your linked article began as nothing more than a false equivalance to push the same snip.



In most rich countries, inequality is rising, and has been rising for some time....


An American poor person is a hell of a lot richer than a poor person living in Africa or 3rd world snip holes in Central and South America.

Wealth like politics is relative to the observer.



posted on Jun, 13 2019 @ 11:41 AM
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originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: PublicOpinion

Not really.

Since your linked article began as nothing more than a false equivalance to push the same snip.



In most rich countries, inequality is rising, and has been rising for some time....


An American poor person is a hell of a lot richer than a poor person living in Africa or 3rd world snip holes in Central and South America.

Wealth like politics is relative to the observer.


It is all relative. I keep trying to point it out, but you know logic and reason don't seem to work sometimes.

Being poor in the US still means having running water, indoor plumbing, a car, clothing, public education, food, xbox, flat screen TV, iphone, air conditioning, cable TV, etc.

No one in America is running around with a distended belly and living in favelas with houses made out of corrugated steel.



posted on Jun, 13 2019 @ 11:43 AM
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a reply to: TheSteppenwolf

What about when AI gets advanced enough to the point that a large chunk of jobs in the country become nonexistent?

According to some, it'll be chronic, double digit unemployment.

Regardless of our economic system, it's going to have to be something that gets figured out if some of the experts are correct.

And it won't be like how jobs have changed slowly over the last several decades, it'll only be in a couple years time.







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posted on Jun, 13 2019 @ 11:50 AM
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a reply to: Edumakated

I don't think they even give a crap.

The commie agenda must be pushed at all costs.

Truth is irrelevant.




posted on Jun, 13 2019 @ 11:50 AM
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a reply to: ghaleon12

There's a lot more to it than we think! Scary times ahead, maybe!

Check out this excellent thread by projectvxn:
The Machine Economy



posted on Jun, 13 2019 @ 11:59 AM
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You already know the right wing nutjobs will defend corporate welfare



posted on Jun, 13 2019 @ 12:14 PM
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a reply to: neo96




An American poor person is a hell of a lot richer than a poor person living in Africa or 3rd world snip holes in Central and South America.



Poverty is poverty, it's even worse if you can't partake in the consumer society when you're living at it's core. Also, poverty is way more alienating when many people around you are doing fine.

That's two of the most ignorant fallacies right there, comrade. Try some empathy for starters?

Now, define "false equivalance" and show me that inequality hasn't been rising for some time.
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posted on Jun, 13 2019 @ 12:18 PM
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a reply to: toysforadults




You already know the right wing nutjobs will defend corporate welfare



Point out one reply on this thread that's defending corporate welfare.



posted on Jun, 13 2019 @ 12:28 PM
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a reply to: ColeYounger

Nothing happened!!!oneoneeleven

Right.




posted on Jun, 13 2019 @ 12:32 PM
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a reply to: PublicOpinion

Try growing the hell up and stop being jealous someone has more zero's in their bank account.




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