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Its Official - Democrats Now Care More About Illegal Immigrants Than They Do For U.S. Citizens.

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posted on Jun, 18 2019 @ 08:52 PM
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originally posted by: Subaeruginosa
All this bickering about 'illegal" immigrants is obviously irrelevant at this point.

Thump already fired off a tweet claiming he was going to deport millions of people who are vital to the US economy... Problem is, the government is generally completely incompetent. So I think it's safe to say that very few actual criminals will be deported in this little cheap vote grab operation.

If he actually does end up going through with his threat to deport millions of illegals, I guarantee the majority will be good hard working people that simply don't have all their papers in order, which be definition will just end up hurting the economy.

But, i guess it's like the saying goes... Give 'em enough rope.


Imagine if Trump, in his zeal against "anchor babies", had somehow ended Birthright Citizenship (Citizenship by birth within the US is guaranteed by the Constitution).

Of course, to be effective, it would have to apply retroactively too (something also contrary to the Constitution).

The problem with all that, is that it would then define all Americans who cannot present the paperwork of an ancestor's immigration approval, as illegals.

I can just imagine Donald (Thanos) Trump, all orange in the face (not blue, 'coz that's Democrat), enjoying the quiet sunset of his newly depopulated world, thinking how much more money there is for those who are left, and waiting for their praise and thanks.



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posted on Jun, 18 2019 @ 09:45 PM
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Want to know why former W.H. Press Secretary Sarah Sanders STOPPED briefing the media?

Read a portion of today's Q&A between President Trump and the Mainstream Media. They LOVE Illegal Immigrants.

6.18.2019: theconservativetreehouse.com...

If a replacement for Sarah is chosen, I hope he/she does only 1 formal press briefing per quarter..or even less frequently.




posted on Jun, 19 2019 @ 09:21 AM
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originally posted by: chr0naut
In the year 2000, estimated to be the highest year ever for illegal immigration into the US, with 1,643,679 apprehensions, there were 1,864,343 deportations and removals.

So, in the very worst year ever for illegal entry into the US, the actual net flow was negative. There was no emergency then. There is no emergency now.

Sorry, quoting numbers from 20 years ago, regardless if it was the 'worst year ever', in no way supports your claim for what is happening today.

Link/citation for what is happening today, or I still call BS...

Oh - and apprehensions vs deportations doesn't give the full picture, because it excludes those who snuck in illegally who were not apprehended.



posted on Jun, 19 2019 @ 09:47 AM
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I just wanted to add this about how much certain groups like illegals, more then it's citizens:

From: KIRO Radio

A White Center woman went to a restaurant with her son last fall when a man named Francisco Carranza-Ramirez, who is presumed to be homeless, sat at her table, making her uncomfortable, and gave her a ride home.
“Once he got her back to her apartment, he invited himself inside. And while the child was there as well — and at this time the child was around 1 year old — he raped the victim there in her own apartment,” King County Sheriff’s Sgt. Ryan Abbott told me.
A few days later, Carranza-Ramirez allegedly returned to her apartment, knocked her out of her wheelchair, and raped her again, while she was on the phone with 911.

What was his punishment?

At that time, King County Sheriff’s deputies arrested the suspect. He was convicted of third-degree rape and spent nine months in jail, which apparently is typical.
“In our state, in my opinion, our laws are not tough enough on sentencing,” Rose told me. “A sentencing range for a third-degree rape is six to 12 months, that’s it … that is pathetic.”
However, last Thursday, he was released from jail. The judge ordered him to stay away from this woman, register as a sex offender, and return to Mexico. According to the prosecutor’s office, the judge ordered him to give proof that he left for Mexico.
“Just to be cut loose with no supervision, no sex offender treatment, nobody saying, ‘Hey are you doing the right thing, what are you doing, do you have some place to stay, do you have somewhere to go, do you have a way to make money?’ Just to cut him loose on the street is a travesty,” Rose said.
He has put in a request for comment to the judge, asking why the decision was made based on the offender’s promise that he would go back to Mexico.
On Sunday, two days after being let out of jail, Carranza-Ramirez returned to the survivor’s house and violently assaulted her. According to Rose, who spoke to the survivor just before talking to me, the suspect allegedly hit her in the head with a large object, started strangling her, and threatened to murder her.
“This is a vulnerable victim who should never have had to see this guy again ever, and certainly should not have had to worry about him showing back up to her place,” Rose said.
Carranza-Ramirez fled the scene, and law enforcement is now working feverishly to track him down.


So this guy is here illegally, but is also a repeat rapist. After here gets caught the judge just wants him to register as a sex offender and go back to Mexico, the guy does niether. Why didn't ICE pick this guy up? Well ... ...
From: washingtontimes.com

Gov. Jay Inslee signed a measure Tuesday implementing the new rules. They put Washington among only a handful of states, including California and Oregon, to have enacted statewide sanctuary policies and rank among the strongest statewide mandates in the nation.
Police officers in Washington won’t be able to inquire about immigration status except in limited circumstances, and the state attorney general will draw up rules for courthouses, hospitals and other state government facilities aimed at limiting their use as places where federal immigration agents look for people in the country illegally.


That's why. It's because being here in this state gives you protection that you wouldn't get in any other place (with the execption of a few other S-States), but as a citizen you get no protection from this abuse of the system by it's leaders. The DNC is nothing more than mere Trotskyists. Keep the citizens in a state of conflict, and use the power of the state to provide a false sense of safety. Typical Trotskyists.



posted on Jun, 19 2019 @ 12:46 PM
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originally posted by: tanstaafl

originally posted by: Lucidparadox
You say you want to be independent..

Yep...


Do you go to the grocery store? Do you go to gas stations? Did you build your own house? Do you have a job that you work at, and in turn are also working with others toward a common goal? Did you build your computer, your tv, your phone?

What you call 'dependence' above, I refer to as participating in the free market.

In your false utopia, I'd be limited to just one store, gas station, building contractor, employer, etc... the government owned/approved one.

In a free market, I can freely pick and choose the one that works best for me.


No one is trying to control anyone.

Its called optimization of resources/labor for the highest point on your production possibility curve. The more we work together, the more capable we are.

Argued like a true Socialist/Communist/Fascist....

The difference is, you want to mandate things through fascist laws, instead of relying on people to make their own, individual choices fre from government coercion.


Again youre assuming you cannot still have a free market and work together at the same time?

The only regulated/subsidized parts of the economy would be military, utilities, infrastructure, healthcare, and education.

Everything else would be free market. Nothing is "mandated" it is voted on democratically



posted on Jun, 19 2019 @ 01:26 PM
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originally posted by: Lucidparadox
Again youre assuming you cannot still have a free market and work together at the same time?

No, I'm saying that you cannot mandate a 'free market' system by law, and in fact, trying to do so, is the antithesis of what makes a free market free.


The only regulated/subsidized parts of the economy would be military, utilities, infrastructure, healthcare, and education.

The first three already pretty much are.

You want to add 'healthcare' and 'education' to the equation. I know why, trust me, but I'm not sure you do.

It is for one reason and one reason only - control.

What else do you call wanting to limit people's healthcare and education choices to only what you (ie, the 'State') believe they should have in two of the most critically important areas of a persons life.

I believe people should be free to make their own choices.

I prefer engaging in ozone, mega dose IV Vit C, herbal remedies and other natural health therapies for curing cancer and other nasties. You want to force me down the deadly road of chemo and radiation.

I prefer the freedom to send my children to a school that doesn't force feed them government approved propaganda garbage like socialism and gender identity politics.


Everything else would be free market. Nothing is "mandated" it is voted on democratically

You don't understand what 'mandated' means, apparently. Two wolves and a sheep voting on whats for dinner - yeah, thanks but no thanks.

Democracy is the worst form of government, as rightly acknowledged by our Founding Fathers. Thankfully, and contrary to popular myth, we don't live in a democracy, we live in a Constitutional Republic.



posted on Jun, 19 2019 @ 02:17 PM
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originally posted by: tanstaafl

originally posted by: chr0naut
In the year 2000, estimated to be the highest year ever for illegal immigration into the US, with 1,643,679 apprehensions, there were 1,864,343 deportations and removals.

So, in the very worst year ever for illegal entry into the US, the actual net flow was negative. There was no emergency then. There is no emergency now.

Sorry, quoting numbers from 20 years ago, regardless if it was the 'worst year ever', in no way supports your claim for what is happening today.

Link/citation for what is happening today, or I still call BS...

Oh - and apprehensions vs deportations doesn't give the full picture, because it excludes those who snuck in illegally who were not apprehended.


Apprehensions are known, deportations are known, nobody has numbers for those who are completely undocumented.

But we do know that the numbers coming in undocumented must be trivial because the desert is monitored by radar and patrolled by capable and technically resourced guards who have decades of experience.

There is no emergency. The border guards are upset at the implication that they are not doing their jobs and are ineffective. The governor of Texas is on the side of the border service and has spoken out against Trump's assertions in the press.



posted on Jun, 19 2019 @ 03:19 PM
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originally posted by: chr0naut
Apprehensions are known, deportations are known, nobody has numbers for those who are completely undocumented.

But we do know that the numbers coming in undocumented must be trivial because the desert is monitored by radar and patrolled by capable and technically resourced guards who have decades of experience.

You know what they say about ass-u-me-ptions...


There is no emergency.

Even the average democrat is acknowledging there is a crisis at the southern border - they just want to argue about solutions because they don't want to actually address the problems.


The border guards are upset at the implication that they are not doing their jobs and are ineffective.

No, the border patrol are pissed at the complaints when the problem is lack of funding and resources.


The governor of Texas is on the side of the border service and has spoken out against Trump's assertions in the press.

Really?



posted on Jun, 19 2019 @ 04:47 PM
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originally posted by: tanstaafl

originally posted by: chr0naut
Apprehensions are known, deportations are known, nobody has numbers for those who are completely undocumented.

But we do know that the numbers coming in undocumented must be trivial because the desert is monitored by radar and patrolled by capable and technically resourced guards who have decades of experience.

You know what they say about ass-u-me-ptions...


There is no emergency.

Even the average democrat is acknowledging there is a crisis at the southern border - they just want to argue about solutions because they don't want to actually address the problems.


Yes, there is a humanitarian crisis at the southern border. It negatively affects those who wish for asylum but are effectively blocked from getting it.

Does that make it an emergency for the United States, though?

Different words used, different issues, about different people.



The border guards are upset at the implication that they are not doing their jobs and are ineffective.

No, the border patrol are pissed at the complaints when the problem is lack of funding and resources.


... and, the funding that they want is allocated to building a wall which doesn't do much:
Facebook post by an accredited structural enginner and adjunct professor of structural analysis & design



The governor of Texas is on the side of the border service and has spoken out against Trump's assertions in the press.

Really?


My apologies, I incorrectly attributed to the wrong governor and posted my previous post in haste (usually I fact check but I was urgently called away).

It was the New Mexico governor Grisham, not Texas Governor:

N.M. Governor Pulls National Guard From Border, Citing A 'Charade' At Federal Level - NPR

... and before you rehash the suggestion that the governor said there was 'no crisis' and then said there 'was a crisis', BS. Please note that she said specifically that there was no "national security crisis at the Southern border" and later acknowledged that there was a "humanitarian crisis" at the Southern border. Different things.

From the last paragraphs of the article linked above (emphasis mine):

In addition to Lujan Grisham, other leaders along the border have said their communities are safe — and that there is no security emergency involving migrants. In its fact check of Trump's State of the Union speech, NPR's John Burnett and Carrie Kahn relayed these assessments:

"As for the 'state of our Southern border,' mayors along the Southwest border consistently say that their communities are among the safest in the nation. McAllen, Texas, Mayor Jim Darling asserted that his city is the third safest in Texas, according to FBI crime statistics, and seventh safest in the nation. 'Send social workers to process the asylum-seekers, not soldiers,' Darling said in a recent call with reporters. Eddie Trevino, Cameron County judge in Brownsville, added, 'It is a misconception that the border is insecure. There is no Central American invasion. This is a manufactured crisis.' "


No emergency. None.

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posted on Jun, 20 2019 @ 04:02 PM
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originally posted by: chr0naut
Yes, there is a humanitarian crisis at the southern border. It negatively affects those who wish for asylum but are effectively blocked from getting it.

There is both a humanitarian and a security crisis at the border.

The humanitarian aspect is cause by a huge increase in the number of people coming here who 'wish for asylum' but do not qualify for it.. Only about 10% of those who claim asylum qualify and/or get it.

These extra 90% who just 'wish for it' are the ones causing the humanitarian crisis aspect.

I wish I had a billion dollars... doesn't mean I get it, does it?


Does that make it an emergency for the United States, though?

What a stupid question. Of course it does, because we have to process these fake claims, and take care of the people while this is happening. How many billions of dollars - which equates to all of the taxes you or I will ever pay in our entire lifetimes, time a million.

That should royally piss you off. I know it royally pisses me off.


Different words used, different issues, about different people.

Nope, one word: illegal. One issue: illegal aliens.


"The border patrol are pissed at the complaints when the problem is lack of funding and resources."

... and, the funding that they want is allocated to building a wall which doesn't do much:


I agree, that wall is a joke... good thing it is nothing compared to the one Trump is building. That said, no one, not even Trump, said the wall would stop everyone, but it will stop a large percentage, at least 50%, if not more. That makes it worth it.



Facebook post by an accredited structural enginner and adjunct professor of structural analysis & design

Ok, she actually had some decent points - maybe she should be on his engineering team?


TMy apologies, I incorrectly attributed to the wrong governor and posted my previous post in haste (usually I fact check but I was urgently called away).

It was the New Mexico governor Grisham, not Texas Governor:

Wow... a democrat governor is anti-Trump and anti-wall. Color me surprised.


... and before you rehash the suggestion that the governor said there was 'no crisis' and then said there 'was a crisis', BS. Please note that she said specifically that there was no "national security crisis at the Southern border" and later acknowledged that there was a "humanitarian crisis" at the Southern border. Different things.

Yes, yes, yes, like all good democrats, she ignores reality, as do the rest of your examples...


From the last paragraphs of the article linked above (emphasis mine):

In addition to Lujan Grisham, other leaders along the border have said their communities are safe — and that there is no security emergency involving migrants. In its fact check of Trump's State of the Union speech, NPR's John Burnett and Carrie Kahn relayed these assessments:

"As for the 'state of our Southern border,' mayors along the Southwest border consistently say that their communities are among the safest in the nation. McAllen, Texas, Mayor Jim Darling asserted that his city is the third safest in Texas, according to FBI crime statistics, and seventh safest in the nation. 'Send social workers to process the asylum-seekers, not soldiers,' Darling said in a recent call with reporters. Eddie Trevino, Cameron County judge in Brownsville, added, 'It is a misconception that the border is insecure. There is no Central American invasion. This is a manufactured crisis.' "


No emergency. None.

You can cite all the examples you want of democrats claiming there is no emergency. It doesn't change reality.



posted on Jun, 20 2019 @ 05:31 PM
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originally posted by: tanstaafl

originally posted by: chr0naut
Yes, there is a humanitarian crisis at the southern border. It negatively affects those who wish for asylum but are effectively blocked from getting it.

There is both a humanitarian and a security crisis at the border.

The humanitarian aspect is cause by a huge increase in the number of people coming here who 'wish for asylum' but do not qualify for it.. Only about 10% of those who claim asylum qualify and/or get it.

These extra 90% who just 'wish for it' are the ones causing the humanitarian crisis aspect.

I wish I had a billion dollars... doesn't mean I get it, does it?


Does that make it an emergency for the United States, though?

What a stupid question. Of course it does, because we have to process these fake claims, and take care of the people while this is happening. How many billions of dollars - which equates to all of the taxes you or I will ever pay in our entire lifetimes, time a million.

That should royally piss you off. I know it royally pisses me off.


Different words used, different issues, about different people.

Nope, one word: illegal. One issue: illegal aliens.


"The border patrol are pissed at the complaints when the problem is lack of funding and resources."

... and, the funding that they want is allocated to building a wall which doesn't do much:


I agree, that wall is a joke... good thing it is nothing compared to the one Trump is building. That said, no one, not even Trump, said the wall would stop everyone, but it will stop a large percentage, at least 50%, if not more. That makes it worth it.



Facebook post by an accredited structural enginner and adjunct professor of structural analysis & design

Ok, she actually had some decent points - maybe she should be on his engineering team?


TMy apologies, I incorrectly attributed to the wrong governor and posted my previous post in haste (usually I fact check but I was urgently called away).

It was the New Mexico governor Grisham, not Texas Governor:

Wow... a democrat governor is anti-Trump and anti-wall. Color me surprised.


... and before you rehash the suggestion that the governor said there was 'no crisis' and then said there 'was a crisis', BS. Please note that she said specifically that there was no "national security crisis at the Southern border" and later acknowledged that there was a "humanitarian crisis" at the Southern border. Different things.

Yes, yes, yes, like all good democrats, she ignores reality, as do the rest of your examples...


From the last paragraphs of the article linked above (emphasis mine):

In addition to Lujan Grisham, other leaders along the border have said their communities are safe — and that there is no security emergency involving migrants. In its fact check of Trump's State of the Union speech, NPR's John Burnett and Carrie Kahn relayed these assessments:

"As for the 'state of our Southern border,' mayors along the Southwest border consistently say that their communities are among the safest in the nation. McAllen, Texas, Mayor Jim Darling asserted that his city is the third safest in Texas, according to FBI crime statistics, and seventh safest in the nation. 'Send social workers to process the asylum-seekers, not soldiers,' Darling said in a recent call with reporters. Eddie Trevino, Cameron County judge in Brownsville, added, 'It is a misconception that the border is insecure. There is no Central American invasion. This is a manufactured crisis.' "


No emergency. None.

You can cite all the examples you want of democrats claiming there is no emergency. It doesn't change reality.


There Is No National Emergency on the Border, Mr. President - Cato Institute

The Cato Institute is a right-wing libertarian conservative think tank, with ties to the Republican party, according to Source Watch.

There Is No Crisis At The Border - And DHS Stats Prove It - Forbes.com

The motto of Forbes is "The Capitalist Tool". They are right wing and conservative. Their chief editor, Steve Forbes, is a Republican and has stood twice as a Republican nominee for President of the US.

Face it, Trump and his supporters are playing the US public like a violin and also blaming all opposition upon the Democrats. Yet another untruth.

edit on 20/6/2019 by chr0naut because: (no reason given)



posted on Jun, 21 2019 @ 12:50 AM
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originally posted by: spiritualarchitect

originally posted by: carewemust
June 12, 2019
It's tragic how Anti-American the party has become.


Yes, they should just change their name from The Democratic Party to The Anti-American Party.


RE: twitter.com...

Since Democrats in Congress are "OK" with these horrible crimes committed by Illegal Aliens, they should be labeled as high-ranking traitors.


(post by suchiabram removed for a serious terms and conditions violation)

posted on Jun, 23 2019 @ 04:59 PM
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June 23, 2019

Democrats are now so frustrated, they're refusing to work with Republicans to improve the living conditions of immigrants held in border shelters!

Good Thread On The Subject: www.abovetopsecret.com...

Democrats have been going morally downhill for decades. This is their lowest point...thus far.




posted on Jun, 24 2019 @ 12:39 AM
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Congressman Devin Nunes correctly states that Democrats and the liberal media are "possessed" by evil.

www.thegatewaypundit.com... h-russia-hoax/



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