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Its Official - Democrats Now Care More About Illegal Immigrants Than They Do For U.S. Citizens.

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posted on Jun, 13 2019 @ 08:17 PM
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a reply to: chr0naut

I understand that NZ and Aussie DO NOT allow ILLEGAL immigration

Are you saying they do??

You’re wrong. They do NOT

Same as EVERY country on Earth




posted on Jun, 13 2019 @ 08:20 PM
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So we have leftist morons claiming that ANYONE can simply ‘sneak’ into New Zealand and then live there forever without ever informing authorities or without ever applying for any type of residency whatsoever and the New Zealand government is happy with that.

Idiocracy

EVERY country on Earth combats ILLEGAL immigration. Not just the United States.

New Zealand is obviously a hateful country if it requires people to APPLY for some sort of citizenship/visitor/immigration status.

These people get thicker by the day

“The United States, and ONLY the United States, should have ZERO laws regarding immigration and simply allow EVERYONE and ANYONE to walk into the country without ANY form of documentation or application or identification whatsoever”

Requiring people to APPLY is ‘hate’

Jesus fcuken Christ. Clown World

Thankfully the ‘left’ is the FASTEST shrinking minority in EVERY western society
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posted on Jun, 13 2019 @ 08:46 PM
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Why do you have to present a passport at NZ airports? Why do they ask you the purpose of your visits etc?

Oh that’s right, because they DO NOT allow illegal immigration.

Like EVERY country on Earth.

But you’re right, all other countries have those laws for good reasons but the USA has the SAME laws for hateful, isolationist reasons.

Because cNn told me so

HONK



posted on Jun, 14 2019 @ 12:05 AM
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originally posted by: Liquesence
a reply to: carewemust


Today, the Democrat-led House of Representatives voted to hold the U.S. Attorney General (William Barr), and Commerce Secretary (Wilbur Ross), in contempt of Congress.


Good. See rule of law and oversight.


Democrats DO NOT WANT the question: "Are You An American Citizen?" on the 2020 census.


The census is about population, not citizenship.


What a bunch of bs.

Oversight does not extend to attacking those who oppose your un-American ideals.

pop·u·la·tion
noun
All the inhabitants of a particular town, area, or country.

in·hab·it·ant
noun
A person or animal that lives in or occupies a place.

Its a census. It IS about citizenship. Its not just who happens to be here when the counting takes place.

Civics 101.



posted on Jun, 14 2019 @ 12:55 AM
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a reply to: carewemust

Democrats don't care about immigrants, legal or illegal any more than they care about the homeless Americans who live here...

What they do care about is VOTES...



posted on Jun, 14 2019 @ 04:41 PM
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originally posted by: KeithCooper
The premise of this original post is ridiculous....however, after suffering through several years of idiotic Trump supporters, I hope enough latin Americans move in across our border to counter the 38% of morons that are hell bent on dedtroying every institution that makes America great. Let em ALL in......

So, you're saying they do vote illegally in elections?



posted on Jun, 14 2019 @ 04:42 PM
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originally posted by: Lucidparadox
Us Democrats want to make the world better... For everyone

No, you want to make everyone dependent on the government for everything, because that is the source of your power.



posted on Jun, 14 2019 @ 04:47 PM
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originally posted by: Iscool
a reply to: carewemust

Democrats don't care about immigrants, legal or illegal any more than they care about the homeless Americans who live here...

What they do care about is VOTES...


That's a load of crappos. Here in Washington State Governor Inslee has pushed forward on a 1 Billion dollar plan to help the homeless … oh wait he pushed the 1 Billion Dollar plan to help the Orcas, then what did he do for the homeless crisis … nothing? You mean to tell me that the homeless crisis here in Washington State isn't even getting addressed by this Presidential Candidate, but a species of porpoises are getting a billion dollars because their stupid?

Sorry Iscool, it would seem that you're correct.



posted on Jun, 14 2019 @ 05:43 PM
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originally posted by: Breakthestreak
a reply to: chr0naut

I understand that NZ and Aussie DO NOT allow ILLEGAL immigration

Are you saying they do??

You’re wrong. They do NOT

Same as EVERY country on Earth


No, I am not saying that. At all.

The repeated insistence that I and others are denying a need for border security, when we aren't, shows that you are not even cognizant of what we are saying.

Let me make this clear and simple, but you have to try and understand what I am saying. Not what you want to disagree with.

In FY 2016, 20,455 individuals were GRANTED asylum. They were genuine cases of humanitarian need that fit the legal requirements and were judged as doing so by the DOJ's immigration courts.

Each and every one of those cases requested asylum from US soil! That is how the asylum law works.

A wall cannot discriminate between genuine cases and those that aren't. It keeps nearly everyone out (except, of course for those who scale, tunnel under or demolish parts of the wall).

The criminals will likely have means, intention and disregard for property to bypass the barrier. Those genuinely in need of humanitarian aid, however, are fairly effectively blocked.

Not to mention that the criminals and drugs already mostly come in via the 'official ports of entry'. We know that by all the drug shipments that we intercept there (and hardly any out in the desert, which is patrolled and monitored, too).

Are you willing to damn about 20,000 really genuine cases of humanitarian need per year with some ineffective fail of a method to try and keep out a few scum who aren't even going to bother with the wall because they normally don't get in that way, anyway?

And what's with all the rhetoric about the few drug runners and other criminals? There are higher percentages of criminals already within the US, among the citizens. There are police there to deal with that far more effectively than some desert folly outdoor furniture.

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posted on Jun, 14 2019 @ 08:04 PM
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So why even argue about stopping ILLEGAL immigrants at all then???? Is it just a ‘reeeeee’?

An asylum seeker is NOT an ‘illegal’.

A hundred thousand people PER MONTH coming across the border ILLEGALLY

The VAAAAASSSSST majority of ILLEGAL border-crossers ARE NOT!!!!!!! asylum seekers

Border security is a POSITIVE thing. Combatting ILLEGAL immigration is NOT!!!!!!! ‘hateful’ in any way shape or form


And the good news is twofold, the VAAAAAAST majority of Americans agree and will continue to agree at the next election

And

Mexico is now combatting it along their southern border so the ‘legitimate’ ‘asylum seekers’ can claim asylum in Mexico instead

Which should please the Libs because Mexico is not a #hole, remember.
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edit on 14 6 2019 by Breakthestreak because: (no reason given)



posted on Jun, 14 2019 @ 08:38 PM
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a reply to: chr0naut

You seem to think conservatives are anti-immigration and anti-asylum seekers

We’re not.



posted on Jun, 14 2019 @ 08:46 PM
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a reply to: chr0naut

So 20,000 in one year .. we had over 100,000 come across last month alone. The wall is not for the 20k, it's the other 1.18 million. With the wall up those 20k will still get into the US, it does not stop that at all.

Are you claiming because 20k come here with a legal and valid reason we need to allow 1.18 million people in without a valid reason?



posted on Jun, 14 2019 @ 09:05 PM
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originally posted by: Breakthestreak
a reply to: chr0naut

So why even argue about stopping ILLEGAL immigrants at all then???? Is it just a ‘reeeeee’?


Precisely, the problem is stopping legal immigrants... under the guise of stopping the illegal ones.


An asylum seeker is NOT an ‘illegal’.

A hundred thousand people PER MONTH coming across the border ILLEGALLY

The VAAAAASSSSST majority of ILLEGAL border-crossers ARE NOT!!!!!!! asylum seekers

Border security is a POSITIVE thing. Combatting ILLEGAL immigration is NOT!!!!!!! ‘hateful’ in any way shape or form

And the good news is twofold, the VAAAAAAST majority of Americans agree and will continue to agree at the next election

And

Mexico is now combatting it along their southern border so the ‘legitimate’ ‘asylum seekers’ can claim asylum in Mexico instead

Which should please the Libs because Mexico is not a #hole, remember.


Mexico's ties to the governments and gangs that the asylum seekers are running from, give them no confidence that they are safe.



posted on Jun, 14 2019 @ 09:15 PM
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Democrats/MSM love law-breaking immigrants more than their President.
twitter.com...

Democrats/MSM love law-breaking immigrants more than the President's Press Secretary.
www.foxnews.com...

Satan is making them sub-human. It's too bad they're so open to evil.



posted on Jun, 14 2019 @ 09:16 PM
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originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
a reply to: chr0naut

So 20,000 in one year .. we had over 100,000 come across last month alone. The wall is not for the 20k, it's the other 1.18 million. With the wall up those 20k will still get into the US, it does not stop that at all.

Are you claiming because 20k come here with a legal and valid reason we need to allow 1.18 million people in without a valid reason?


The wall cannot discriminate.

You know, by your logic, you could prevent people from jay-walking, just by nuking the planet from space.




posted on Jun, 14 2019 @ 09:36 PM
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originally posted by: carewemust
Democrats/MSM love law-breaking immigrants more than their President.
twitter.com...

Democrats/MSM love law-breaking immigrants more than the President's Press Secretary.
www.foxnews.com...

Satan is making them sub-human. It's too bad they're so open to evil.


One of the teachers of the law came and heard them debating. Noticing that Jesus had given them a good answer, he asked him, “Of all the commandments, which is the most important?”

“The most important one,” answered Jesus, “is this: ‘Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one. Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength.’ The second is this: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’ There is no commandment greater than these.”
- Mark 12, 28-31.

Looks like the good guys are supposed to love everyone equally. Even law-breaking immigrants and all the other human beings, like Trump.




posted on Jun, 14 2019 @ 09:46 PM
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originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
a reply to: chr0naut

So 20,000 in one year .. we had over 100,000 come across last month alone. The wall is not for the 20k, it's the other 1.18 million. With the wall up those 20k will still get into the US, it does not stop that at all.

Are you claiming because 20k come here with a legal and valid reason we need to allow 1.18 million people in without a valid reason?


Firstly, to still allow those 20,000 in you'd have to change the law, and even the President doesn't have the power by himself do that.

Also, by the same token, you don't have to allow in those who don't qualify for asylum, just because you allow in those who do.

The 'secret sauce' is legal enforcement, rationality in governance and allocation of funding towards the effective solutions. Not just pouring concrete in the wasteland.



posted on Jun, 14 2019 @ 09:55 PM
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originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: Breakthestreak

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: shooterbrody
a reply to: chr0naut

hahaha
"we don't allow that here but you guys should there"
hahahah

well played


Nonsense.

We don't call them illegals if they haven't disobeyed the law.
‘Sneaking’ into New Zealand without following the proper immigration procedures IS disobeying the law.

So you DO call the SAME people ‘illegals’

Fact


It appears that you don't have the conceptual framework from which to arrive at a different conclusion.

If you define these people as illegals, then they must have been doing something illegal, because they are illegals, right? How could they be innocent if you call them illegals?

It's like something out of Idiocracy.


WT absolute F are you rambling on about?
It's barely coherent.

Illegal means broke a law. It's really that simple. The Idiocracy is these stupid little word games you all play because you don't have a solid argument other than you just dislike conservatives and Trump.

Well it's about time to grow up cupcake because it's not just Americans dumping your ideology. Your peers in Australia are now giving the finger to your globalist collectivist garbage too.



posted on Jun, 14 2019 @ 10:13 PM
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ts Official - Democrats Now Care More About Illegal Immigrants Than They Do For U.S. Citizens.


So when you make such a drama-inducing proclamation, I do need to ask... what percent of registered dems do you actually think care more about illegal immigrants than they do for U.S. citizens?



posted on Jun, 14 2019 @ 10:36 PM
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originally posted by: JAY1980

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: Breakthestreak

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: shooterbrody
a reply to: chr0naut

hahaha
"we don't allow that here but you guys should there"
hahahah

well played


Nonsense.

We don't call them illegals if they haven't disobeyed the law.
‘Sneaking’ into New Zealand without following the proper immigration procedures IS disobeying the law.

So you DO call the SAME people ‘illegals’

Fact


It appears that you don't have the conceptual framework from which to arrive at a different conclusion.

If you define these people as illegals, then they must have been doing something illegal, because they are illegals, right? How could they be innocent if you call them illegals?

It's like something out of Idiocracy.


WT absolute F are you rambling on about?
It's barely coherent.

Illegal means broke a law. It's really that simple. The Idiocracy is these stupid little word games you all play because you don't have a solid argument other than you just dislike conservatives and Trump.

Well it's about time to grow up cupcake because it's not just Americans dumping your ideology. Your peers in Australia are now giving the finger to your globalist collectivist garbage too.


'Illegals' has also been used as a noun and applied to people who have not broken the law.

Trump called the people in the caravans 'illegal immigrants' before they even attempted to immigrate or were anywhere near the border. The majority of those in the particular caravans referred to by Trump, proceeded straight to an official port of entry (at San Ysidro) and sought to obtain legal entry to the US. This made Trump out to be a liar.

It is not illegal to cross the border, there are many situations where doing so is acceptable under the law, even some where you do so in an undocumented manner. What is illegal is if you do so without a legally acceptable reason when challenged or apprehended.

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