Should the US fly the Rainbow Pride flag at US Embassies?

a reply to: halfoldman

Practically speaking.

It's just a flag mate, a piece of cloth that flaps around in the wind.

If it makes people happy i really don't see the point of contention.

As to misunderstandings, those are apt to happen no matter what colour a flag is, after all to err is human.

Thinking about it more deeply I think an lgbt voice, or "global country" could be made.

But I do not want the rainbow flag attached to any country at the moment, that's appropriation.

Because globally so many in different countries and cultures (very likely opposing ideologies otherwise) have fought for lgbt rights and the rainbow flag, to bestow (or self-bestow) it on one country is wrong.

It belongs to the world.

Another negative spin-off is that people who are lgbt (and want to abstain from politics otherwise) may be mistaken as "American agents".

If you conflate the two flags, all kinds of nonsense is possible.

And none of it will empower anyone.

so what other policies will the embassies be ignoring?

Wanting to fly their pride flag with the emblem of our very nation as a whole. How arrogant and narcissistic.

a reply to: halfoldman

It belongs to whoever identifies or associates with it i suppose.

But the US Embassies don't belong to the world, for all intents and purpose they are considered US soil.

It's a simple gesture to make, or not mate, but one that will not go unnoticed, by not only homosexual US citizens, but also the rest of the world.

I cannot see why this is an issue, for a nation where homosexuality is perfectly legal, and/or without stigma attached in this day of age.

a reply to: halfoldman

All kinds of nonsense are not just possible but most lightly probable.

Conflation aside, people get confused over which shoe to put on first ffs.

People are confusing, and then some. LoL

a reply to: andy06shake

Go for it - with your big flag on top.

And the little Rainbow Flag squeaking at the bottom.

Don't dare invert that.

That would just be totally ridiculous ...

Right?

a reply to: halfoldman

You have lost me now mate.

The only flag i have in my possession is a Rangers Flag from 1997 when they did nine in a row.

Not flying a flag that represents an important demographic of people seems ridiculous if that helps.

I really don't see how this can affect anyone but homophobes sensibilities.

It's just a flag.

a reply to: andy06shake

Sorry, not you personally.

But what the thread proposes is still the American flag, with a tiny Rainbow endorsement.
That's what it will look like.

And I feel it is wrong on many given levels.

Many say it's wrong for US patriotic reasons (which I don't dispute).

But I say it's also wrong from a "rainbow" perspective.

Lgbt rights are worldwide, they should not be tied to a country.
What you're then doing is "Americanizing" Lgbt rights, and that, as things still stand, indeed puts gender minorities at risk.

Yeah
They are just embassy rules.
Why follow any of them.?

a reply to: shooterbrody

Yeah it's a flag

Why not just fly the thing?

How, why, or in what way, this is somehow offensive or an unreasonable request is quite frankly beyond me.

a reply to: halfoldman

Plenty of nations through around the globe where LGBT rights are not set in stone.

What's wrong with simply setting an example?

As misplaced and diminished as the rest of the worlds admiration is for the US these days, some people still pay attention.

Saw on a vets page that a VA hospital took down the pow mia flag and ran up the rainbow flag, way to be 100% tone deaf VA.

most vets look at you as a second chance for us to die for our country and now you choose to do more bad optics that give the impression that vets are secondary to a political agenda.




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a reply to: JAGStorm
Should the US fly the Rainbow Pride flag at US Embassies?

Sure. Why not?
Didn't we invade Afghanistan to give the women their freedoms? That could be considered culturally insensitive, too, right?
I'm guessing that those complaints about flying the rainbow flag provide a pretty good rationale for the continuing need to do so. Glad we don't get quite so bent out of shape up here in the Great Pink North. That's a postage stamp below.

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: shooterbrody

Yeah it's a flag

Why not just fly the thing?

How, why, or in what way, this is somehow offensive or an unreasonable request is quite frankly beyond me.

Guess you dont appreciate rules?
Our embassies have them.
It has nothing yo do with "reasonable requests",tho it is being framed that way.

originally posted by: shooterbrody

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: shooterbrody
Yeah it's a flag
Why not just fly the thing?
How, why, or in what way, this is somehow offensive or an unreasonable request is quite frankly beyond me.

Guess you dont appreciate rules?

'Rules' don't make it right.

a reply to: JohnnyCanuck

Nice opinion
Perhaps you could petition a rule change?

originally posted by: shooterbrody
a reply to: JohnnyCanuck
Nice opinion
Perhaps you could petition a rule change?

Bold individuals do the right thing and carry on, regardless. Others 'just follow orders'. The measure of an individual is which path they take.

a reply to: shooterbrody

I have a healthy dislike for authority, hands up to that i suppose.

It has everything to do with a "reasonable request".

What's not reasonable about asking for a flag to be displayed?