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Dear Resistance, You're Not The Resistance, You're The Establishment

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posted on Jun, 13 2019 @ 07:14 AM
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originally posted by: Dfairlite
a reply to: JustJohnny

I'm just curious how you square your kindergarten understanding of what conservatism is, with the fact that we want to drastically reduce the size of govenment. If conservatism seeks to conserve the status quo, why would we conservatives be looking to change the status quo?

In other words. The establishment is big government and I want small government. Am I not a conservative?


Nope, you're not. You're an idiot with a kindergarten understanding of history and political reality. Privatizations happened for decades, stop screaming at the sky you wannabe resistance of Oligarch cretins!



Inequality begets further inequality. As the top 1% grow richer, they have more incentive and more ability to enrich themselves further. They exert more and more influence on politics, from election-campaign funding to lobbying over particular rules and regulations. The result is a stream of policies that help them but are inefficient and wasteful. Leftwing critics have called it “socialism for the rich”. Even the billionaire investor Warren Buffett seems to agree: “There’s been class warfare going on for the last 20 years and my class has won,” he once said.

This process has been most devastating when it comes to tax. High earners have most to gain from income tax cuts, and more spare cash to lobby politicians for these cuts. Once tax cuts are secured, high earners have an even stronger incentive to seek pay rises, because they keep a greater proportion of after-tax pay. And so on.

Although there have been cuts in the top rate of income tax across almost all developed economies since 1979, it was the UK and the US that were first, and that went furthest. In 1979, Thatcher cut the UK’s top rate from 83% to 60%, with a further reduction to 40% in 1988. Reagan cut the top US rate from 70% in 1981 to 28% in 1986. Although top rates today are slightly higher – 37% in the US and 45% in the UK – the numbers are worth mentioning because they are strikingly lower than in the post-second-world-war period, when top tax rates averaged 75% in the US and were even higher in the UK.

‘Socialism for the rich’: the evils of bad economics

I should author a thread on this. Epic material for the pit dwellers.
edit on 13-6-2019 by PublicOpinion because: (no reason given)

edit on 13-6-2019 by PublicOpinion because: (no reason given)




posted on Jun, 14 2019 @ 09:21 PM
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a reply to: PublicOpinion



Nope, you're not.


What happens if I identify as one?



You're an idiot with a kindergarten understanding of history and political reality.


I guess the atlantic didn't get the memo??? Otherwise, they too must be idiots with a kindergarten understanding of history and political reality.



Privatizations happened for decades, stop screaming at the sky you wannabe resistance of Oligarch cretins!


wut?



‘Socialism for the rich’: the evils of bad economics I should author a thread on this. Epic material for the pit dwellers.


Yes, the politics of greed and envy go over well here. You can blend in well with the other brain trust lefty's here.

One giant hole in your linked article begins in the first paragraph and is never addressed. Why is inequality of outcomes bad? Let's pretend for a moment you are a critical thinking, intelligent individual. Explain to me (a middle class guy) why bill gates or jeff bezos having a bunch of cash made my life worse.



posted on Jun, 14 2019 @ 09:39 PM
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Absolutely agreed.

You forgot to add ATS to the "resistance"



posted on Jun, 14 2019 @ 09:47 PM
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I am proud to say I am part of the resistance, just take a look at Trump's America.




posted on Jun, 14 2019 @ 10:49 PM
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a reply to: d4rktruth

Yes, because black lives matter didn't come about during the obama administration and the cops never went power mad or over-reacted before trump.



posted on Jun, 15 2019 @ 05:30 AM
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a reply to: PublicOpinion

Lol

Conservatism has ALWAYS been based around “how many peasants can the aristocracy get to play for their team”..lol



posted on Jun, 17 2019 @ 03:54 AM
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a reply to: Dfairlite

This coming from a guy who craps all over conservatives because the term "slave labor" is not in my eyes not applicable when you have free choice to accept a job or not. Hilary would be proud of you. You are a good Liberal you are.



posted on Jun, 17 2019 @ 04:02 AM
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originally posted by: JustJohnny
a reply to: PublicOpinion

Lol

Conservatism has ALWAYS been based around “how many peasants can the aristocracy get to play for their team”..lol






Which begs the question, how is it so many members here are hardcore establishment, is this why the owners are almost silent on the day to day. I guess that's more of a rhetorical question to myself than anything but hey I sent it out there anyways.



posted on Jun, 17 2019 @ 08:30 AM
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a reply to: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

Or you know, johnny is simply wrong. I mean, to believe he is right is to believe the left isn't full of those same aristocrats (to use johnny's inaccurate term). That's provably false.



posted on Jun, 17 2019 @ 08:31 AM
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a reply to: PaladinRoden

I am very classically liberal.



posted on Jun, 17 2019 @ 11:15 AM
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a reply to: face23785

I believe that is the Supremacy Clause??

As I understand it, if it isn't expressly forbidden by the Constitution, it falls under the Federal Govt. aegis.



posted on Jun, 17 2019 @ 11:17 AM
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a reply to: wheresthebody



Yup...........

You win the internet for today!! Or a Kewpie Doll...



posted on Jun, 17 2019 @ 11:19 AM
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a reply to: Chadwickus

Now, on that we can all agree.



posted on Jun, 17 2019 @ 12:59 PM
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a reply to: seagull

Are they really worse than any other amoral big business moguls????

The ONLY objective of all business but especially big business is to make a profit...

It isn’t to pay their employees a good wage..

It isn’t to protect the environment or our society as a whole..

It is ONLY to make profit..


So of course these companies are gonna do whatever makes them more money regardless of the unintended consequences...



posted on Jun, 17 2019 @ 01:19 PM
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a reply to: Dfairlite

Who said that?!?

On what planet is pretending like ANYONE is saying the problem of police accountability started with trump, a good argument?!?!??

That is conservatism 101 lol..


Deflect the argument to something ridiculous no one is saying and then pretend like you “nailed it!”

Lol


“Guns don’t kill people , people kill people..”


Like ANYONE thinks guns float off the table solo and murder people.... duh..


Like anyone wants abortion till the last second..


Like anyone wants immigrants that are rapists and murderers..


I guessing they know they can’t win the argument on the actual policy proposal, so they strawman something ridiculous..



posted on Jun, 17 2019 @ 01:41 PM
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a reply to: JustJohnny



Who said that?!?


The person I was responding to insinuated it. You could have just clicked the link and read it for yourself.



On what planet is pretending like ANYONE is saying the problem of police accountability started with trump, a good argument?!?!??


This one. See the person I was responding to.



Deflect the argument to something ridiculous no one is saying and then pretend like you “nailed it!”


Isn't that what the rest of your post is? I mean, you brought up guns, abortion, and illegal immigration (none of which are the topic of this post), lied about the arguments, then pretended you "nailed it!"



I guessing they know they can’t win the argument on the actual policy proposal, so they strawman something ridiculous..


What's really scary is how much you guys project your actions (even right while you're doing them) onto your opposition.



posted on Jun, 18 2019 @ 08:07 AM
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originally posted by: Dfairlite
wut?


Is that kindergarten newspeak for "yes, you make a good point"?
And what has this identity politics piece for neocons from the atlantic to do with my post?



One giant hole in your linked article begins in the first paragraph and is never addressed. Why is inequality of outcomes bad? Let's pretend for a moment you are a critical thinking, intelligent individual. Explain to me (a middle class guy) why bill gates or jeff bezos having a bunch of cash made my life worse.


Look up the term "privatization" and come back to me once you've wrapped your head around that concept. This is not about Harry Potter, either.



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