Immigration will boost U.S. population by 100 million in 45 years

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

Deportation wasnt my solution.
Closing the border was my first suggestion and that included any new legal immigration as well as illegal.
Deportation of illegals is should occur too.

The solution is a much larger issue and would likely include limiting children.
Let that one happen...lol

originally posted by: olaru12

originally posted by: Bluntone22

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: Bluntone22
One of these days people will have to address the problem of overpopulation.

All I known is deporting United States citizens isn't the answer.

Closing the border is a good start and then removing all the illegals.

If business didn't hire illegals for cheap labor, like big agri and construction, they wouldn't come.

www.cbsnews.com...

You would not get an argument from me on that one.

originally posted by: Bluntone22

Closing the border was my first suggestion and that included any new legal immigration as well as illegal.

It still wouldn't matter, the reproductive rates for immigrants and their descendants is higher than those of native born citizens. The delta would still occur, just maybe not in 2040-2050.

The solution is a much larger issue and would likely include limiting children.

Right. Totally legal.

a reply to: o0oTOPCATo0o

I think that's a fair assessment.

I'm a millennial and am opting out of having kids. I just don't want to as I'm a bit cynical on the direction of things. Not really a money decision so much as a do I want to raise kids in the coming environments type thing.

And while I agree on your point that immigrants don't seem to follow that, this seems to be a trend in some of the western cultures though, just look at Japan. It's almost as if it a form of protest by some in the developed countries.

a reply to: Scapegrace

The U.S. economy was built upon the notion of growth is king; bigger, better, more, up, up, up.

More products require more consumers. More jobs requires more employees. Stock market up means more value. Up, up, up. Sustainability is therefore anathema to market increases. It's as simple as that.

Throw in some good old time religion: "The God requires humans to procreate and fill the World to overflowing. Break wild nature; control, control, tame or kill."

Demonize birth control. That's the answer.

The truth is: Our economic fetish for growth is killing us. USA! USA! USA!

a reply to: pthena

The truth is: Our economic fetish for growth is killing us.

Is growth another spelling of debt

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

I guess we could just ignore the issue.

In a couple generations we will be just like the craphole countries those folks left in the first place.

originally posted by: Bluntone22
a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

I guess we could just ignore the issue.

Maybe that's the reason we have so many immigration problems, ignored root problems.

a reply to: Scapegrace


Asymmetric Warfare!
Cloward and Piven

Take your pic. Most of our elected officials are not loyal to our Constitution and People but to serving whatever it is they are serving. Either due to greed or fear.


WHO just came out that we might as well get used to Ebola spreading because it is the new normal, yet we have people wanting open borders...


Clown World.

a reply to: CriticalStinker

Is growth another spelling of debt

Could be; linked to upward pull.
Last time I bought a new car it cost $3,500. What does a car cost now?
Something like the cost of a house back then.
Flat income growth in an increasing value market seems to require more debt.

When things cost more than six months of income then debt is the answer.

originally posted by: CriticalStinker

originally posted by: Bluntone22
a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

I guess we could just ignore the issue.

Maybe that's the reason we have so many immigration problems, ignored root problems.

I've been saying for years we should invest in making Mexico a better place to live.

originally posted by: Bluntone22
I guess we could just ignore the issue.

Nah, we'll just start implementing un-Constitutional policies instead.

In a couple generations we will be just like the craphole countries those folks left in the first place.

I'm a first generation American, my family came here from Italy, I tend to have a much more positive view on legal immigrants and their beneficial impact on the country.

The white American population will drop that much so there will only be a small increase. Most of the food chemistry being touted as superfood and some of the additives effect Northern Europeans way more than southern Europeans and mediteranian people. It reduces fertility and promotes cancer or contains cross reactive chemistry that targets Northern Europeans.

Some of this chemistry also hits African Americans pretty hard, so their populations will also go down.

I spend a lot of time broadly researching food chemistry and see patterns emerging. I still need another four or five years to pin down which chemicals do what, I see them listed in some major food science sites, but they are just stressing avoidance while some of the nutrients we need are in those foods and alternative similar chemistry in foods they suggest is not bioactive enough to supply the nutrients for their genetic ancestry. A Far Northern European cannot eat the same foods as say Italians can. There is a difference in enzymes in people based on epigenetics.

But it seems that the people pushing this chemistry try to hit multiple groups for population control. The agreement is to reduce the number of people in that country, but immigrants are not counted, so the US can comply with the agreement by killing it's own and still bring in other people to make things look better so people do not realize that a broad form of genocide has been implemented.

That is my guess, I read some of the international agreement and this is happening all over in Europe too.

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

My family "dads side" came to America in 1656.
Owned a plantation in virginia.
Came from England and had a castle named peyton hall.

Should I be proud that my ancestors probably owned human beings?
Things change.

It's time our country adopted similar immigration policies to other countries.

originally posted by: Bluntone22
Should I be proud that my ancestors probably owned human beings?

Why you asking me how you should feel about your family? That's your business.

It's time our country adopted similar immigration policies to other countries.

Not sure why you keep missing that even if you move the immigration levels to zero you will still have more children of legal immigrants sometime in the area of 2050 than native born citizens' descendants.

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

Might as well ignore it then.

originally posted by: Bluntone22
Might as well ignore it then.

You can do whatever you want, it's just simple math.

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

I'm moving to canada

originally posted by: Bluntone22
a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

I'm moving to canada

OMG - our borders are closed.