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UK Thread for NHS discussion

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posted on Jun, 12 2019 @ 06:17 AM
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a reply to: johnb

Shocking mate , not in Scotland fortunately the tories cant get their hands on our NHS !

and Trump just wants us to lower our standards so we can trade with the US post brexit

I emailed my MP stewart McDonald and asked him what the script was
and he said that the NHS in scotland wont be put up for sale by Scotland

he said that in order for the US to trade with us , they'd need to beat the top 10 competitors
before we sought to replace them and their medicines etc !

and then even with our food, the US isnt even in the top ten to replace the suppliers we have !

the NHS may die in England , but i've been told from the horses mouth by my MP in parliament that the NHS is not for sale in Scotland !

I only hope that the rest of the UK see what the tories are doing and get them out of power before its too late


thing is , what does the brexit party plan to do with the NHS , are they going to sell it off and flood the UK with private healthcare and reduce health and safety protocols just so we can trade better with the US for some private health care and big pharma dollars! For the tories and their pals in corporations and of course Trump and his buddies !




posted on Jun, 12 2019 @ 06:21 AM
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a reply to: sapien82

This is honestly one of the biggest reasons my views on Scottish independence has changed so much, I voted against it before now am 100% lets do this thing.....

Personally now I want a full breakaway from rUK with Scotland joining the EU adopting the Euro because I think that rUK is #ed and so is the pound.



posted on Jun, 12 2019 @ 06:23 AM
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a reply to: CthruU

Pure pish mate !

Half the doctors in the NHS are immigrants



posted on Jun, 12 2019 @ 06:27 AM
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a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

Welcome aboard my brother! hahaha

it was only a matter of time before there was something that made you change your mind

the NHS will be the turning point for a lot of Scots !

if the Tories are caught out selling it off in England , then even threaten the same in Scotland
then the tories will die a death with the NHS

I hope it wakes more people up to what is happening, the UK is being pulled out of the EU so it can be cut up and sold off !



posted on Jun, 12 2019 @ 06:41 AM
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a reply to: sapien82

Its honestly not even just the NHS I feel like since the last Scottish independence referendum so much has changed, so much so that am getting pretty hardcore about wanting to leave rUK.

I just hope they do it right this time, my biggest concern last time was the economic impact but Brexit has kind of nullified that. If they can make a fairly robust economic argument then it will be an easy win for independence, I would be more than happy if the plan is to gain independence, apply for full EU membership, adopting the Euro. Some might say thats not true independence but I look at what's going on in Dublin these days and think that we could have that if we went for it.



posted on Jun, 12 2019 @ 09:27 AM
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a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

there are lots of benefits to breaking away , the biggest benefit is shaking the political foundations of the UK to the core
and rocking them so much it breaks , only for something new and better to emerge from the ashes!

meaning that not Only Scotland , but Wales England and Northern Ireland can make big changes

break it and make something better !

then maybe ten years down the line we can get back together in a Union on equal footing !



posted on Jun, 12 2019 @ 02:58 PM
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The NHS screwed, I have worked in the NHS in many areas over many years from general Nursing to working with Learning Disabilities.

I have witnessed the health care spiral down ...very sad ..very sad...a footballer, a golfer, celebrity, someone who just pushes buttons and makes a fortune being a computer savvy...gets paid more...far more than the guy that saves a life...or the care provider that is there to nurture them....NHS basic wage for a Health Care Assistant ...just about the bottom of the nursing heirarchy ..The Healthcare Assistant is there for the basic needs when you are unwell in hospital...when you poo your pants because you are unwell, you vomit, you wet the bed...We are all human..we will all at some point go through this...and the Health Care Assistant will help you clean yourself or even clean you up...so you will keep your ..dignity...where I live...you get paid more for stacking shelves in a supermarket...very sad...

I still work in the NHS...I am a trained Carpenter...I could be earning a fortune..I am one of many that could be earning far more outside the NHS....But we are here..in spite of the demoralisation..from the governments...even some patients...there are so many in the NHS that believe in what we do.....I struggle to understand why the surgeon and the team that nurtures another human being to health is paid less than than an idiot kicking a leather bag of air about a field...Something is really wrong!!!



posted on Jun, 12 2019 @ 02:58 PM
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The NHS screwed, I have worked in the NHS in many areas over many years from general Nursing to working with Learning Disabilities.

I have witnessed the health care spiral down ...very sad ..very sad...a footballer, a golfer, celebrity, someone who just pushes buttons and makes a fortune being a computer savvy...gets paid more...far more than the guy that saves a life...or the care provider that is there to nurture them....NHS basic wage for a Health Care Assistant ...just about the bottom of the nursing heirarchy ..The Healthcare Assistant is there for the basic needs when you are unwell in hospital...when you poo your pants because you are unwell, you vomit, you wet the bed...We are all human..we will all at some point go through this...and the Health Care Assistant will help you clean yourself or even clean you up...so you will keep your ..dignity...where I live...you get paid more for stacking shelves in a supermarket...very sad...

I still work in the NHS...I am a trained Carpenter...I could be earning a fortune..I am one of many that could be earning far more outside the NHS....But we are here..in spite of the demoralisation..from the governments...even some patients...there are so many in the NHS that believe in what we do.....I struggle to understand why the surgeon and the team that nurtures another human being to health is paid less than than an idiot kicking a leather bag of air about a field...Something is really wrong!!!
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posted on Jun, 12 2019 @ 03:36 PM
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My opinion

Why do people not want to be in NHS..
And not in any particular order.
Fear of litigation..
Staff shortages ..increased workload
More people presenting Mental illness ( NHS not geared up to address)
Management in various NHS boards incompetent...

Bullying and harrassment inthe ÑHS www.gov.scot...

So....got a list..but one thing I will say..if ever something happens in your life and you end up in hospital..S**** happens ..you will come across those in the system that really care...and you will know...just show some gratitude...working as a Nurse...just that bit of gratitude gives the reason why you became a Nurse



posted on Jun, 12 2019 @ 04:12 PM
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a reply to: shuck

In a world of Me, Me, how do you you teach people to care ..about others outside oneself...



posted on Jun, 12 2019 @ 05:12 PM
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a reply to: shuck

well I think you lead and teach by example others that are compassionate need to show others by example and just hope that it rubs off on them !
You can lead a horse to water , but it will drink when its ready , people need to be willing to change first!

life is just one big paradox , but all paradoxes can be reconciled through the principle of polarity apparently!



posted on Jun, 13 2019 @ 01:52 AM
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a reply to: shuck

Never a truer word and you and your Colleagues have my utmost respect.







 
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