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School gives nonverbal Autistic boy most annoying student award

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posted on Jun, 10 2019 @ 07:50 PM
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a reply to: Grambler

Technically the award was given by the teacher. not the school.

Maybe he is annoying. Just because he is autistic, we as a society are supposed to walk on eggshells?

That's the whole problem with this world. People are way too overly sensitive.

It's like people forcing me to call someone a she because of their mental issue where they think they are female. But I'm supposed to watch my mouth because I might offend someone and I am supposed to accept their life decision. Nah man. I don't have to accept anything.

And with this kid being autistic, ok. That sucks, I'm not here trying to down play his disability but many times disabled people have told me they don't want to be treated differently they want to be treated like everyone else. It's when they are treated "Special" is when they don't feel normal. If the kid is annoying, he is annoying. Don't care if he is autistic or not. I'm not gonna "poor baby" this kid if he is actually an annoying person.




posted on Jun, 10 2019 @ 07:56 PM
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I am supposed to accept their life decision. Nah man. I don't have to accept anything.


Ya, because autism is a life choice/decision


By all means, be an asshole, make fun of the disabled.



posted on Jun, 10 2019 @ 08:38 PM
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a reply to: vonclod

You obviously did not read my post and only cherry picked 1 sentence that was not even towards autism. Read it again, take some time to process what I am saying and next time try not to resort to playground insults ok? We are all adults here right? and please PLEEEEEASE show me where I made fun of the disabled. PLEEEEASE show me.

Thanks
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posted on Jun, 10 2019 @ 09:04 PM
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Why is he annoying though?

Dollars to donuts, he's annoying because of issues related to his autism ... things he can't control, even if he wants to so he won't be annoying.



posted on Jun, 10 2019 @ 10:23 PM
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For those intrested in a more detailed accounting of the subject event: local news Outlet link

After reading this accounting of the events I have come to the personal perspective that the national news outlets have once again followed their MO of sensationalizing events in order to drive unawarent emotional reactions from their audience in order to better track their activities and sell more advertisements.

The accounting of events in this artical show that the story is much more mundane and has very little to do with autism or the singling out of people with disabilities. Rather what happened here was that the entire grade partook in a popularity contest and unfortunately the boy in question was one of the losers of that contest.

Popularity contests have been going on in schools for as long as schools have been around and there have always been students that loose and made to feel awful because of it. This truth of course does not make it right that the school partook in this timeless act of superficial judgement but it does place this story in its proper context.

All the adults in question should face disciplinary actions for allowing this popularity contest for occurring in the first place and more so for including categories that can do nothing but hurt the recipients feelings. But the punishments should fit that crime and not the fictitious and sensationalized crime of discrimination against a disabled person. The school should seek to hand out this punishment so that all the people involved (including the children) can learn a lesson in the proper way we humans should treat each other and not so that the school district can cover its hindquarters. Sumerialy dismissing the teachers is not a punishment that fits the crime that was committed; it really does nothing to teach those teachers and students the folly of their ways; and has everything to do with the school districts desire to stay out of the crosshairs of an unruly news industry.

I am a disabled person; I have a mental disability that causes people to question my intelligence daily. My disability garners undue and unwanted sympathy and pity from well intentioned people; this sympathy and pity dispite the good intentions, can over time have a grating effect on a person's sole. And unfortunately my disability has also visited upon me real life bigotry from ill intentioned people; they type of bigotry where you loose a job or worse aren't even considered for one dispite being the best candidate. In my youth I was blessed with having a good team of advocates, from parents who didn't take $hit from anyone, to teachers who took time out of their personal lives to teach me the tools I need to cope with my disability. As an adult I try to pay that blessing foward by being an advocate for the disabled both online and more importantly in real life. I write all this to explain that I didn't come to my personal perspective on this incident through callousness for the autistic child that lost the popularity contest.

This child with autism unfortunately lost the popularity contest. From the article I linked too it was the other children in his special education class that visited this award on him. These other children were in that special education class because they too have disabilities that they are trying to cope with and it is not at all clear, nor is it likely, that all of these disabled people and their teacher (who has been a special education teacher for 15 years) were singling him out because he is a disabled person. Also from the article there were at least two other classes, assumed not to be remedial, that partook in this contest and that there were other non disabled people who won this horrible award.

Based on this evidence; this child was not the victim of bigotry on the day of the awards ceremony. He was the victim of cruel children and a set of teachers and administrators who failed to properly supervise the contest; or more basic, failed to see the inherent problems that can occur when you have a popularity contest in the first place.

I will say however that it's my opinion that this child did fall victim to bigotry when his disability became the central, and arguably the only, matter of importance to the story. And even more egregiously when the national news industry used his disability as a means to sensationalize this event. I can tell you from first hand experience this is not the type of help nor advocacy that the disabled community wants nor needs. We do not need the abled bodied to feel extra sorry for us because we are disabled; we do not need the abled bodied to fight extra hard for us because we can't fight for ourselves; and we certainly do not need our disabilities to become the headline story when a school does something stupid that affects an inter grade of students. What we need is to be treated as equals; be upset that a child and his family were made to feel small by a school that should have known better. Don't be upset because something mean happened to a disabled child.
edit on 10-6-2019 by DanDanDat because: (no reason given)



posted on Jun, 10 2019 @ 11:00 PM
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a reply to: ketsuko

Sorry it's taken so long to get back to you, kets.

Tae Kwon Do has helped my son tremendously, it has done so much for him both physically and mentally; his personal heroes are Bruce Lee and Ip Man, one of Bruce Lee's early mentors. For Christmas I got him a book Bruce Lee wrote and it has turned out to be one of his favorite gifts ever.

Autism, as far as can be discerned does not usually have a physiological cause, rather it seems to be a difference in the 'wiring' of a person on the spectrum's brain as it were. In my son, there is a probable physiological causative factor; there is one suture joint of his skull, in his forehead, which was fused before he was born. This resulted in him having a triangular shaped appearance to his head if you looked at him from above and a vertical ridge in the middle of his forehead running to the crown of his head looking at him face on. This has become much less noticeable as he has grown, but was quite distinct when he was younger.

As a result of the oddness of the shape of his skull, there were areas of his brain which had a little less room than normal, while at the same time, other ares of his brain had extra room. At one point we were referred to a neurologist somewhere in the Houston Medical Center, I don't recall specifically as it was near 20 years ago, but I do remember taking him to have several scans done of his skull to image his brain and make a determination if they though performing surgery on his skull might make a difference.

He was pretty young, but into his toddler years so we were talking brain surgery on on our youngest child (at the time) and it was some seriously heavy things to try and process. In the end we, along with the neurologists, determined that the risks were greater than any reward that might eventuate. His speech was delayed and for a good time when he did start talking (and it seemed like he grew an impressive vocabulary all at one time) it seemed he didn't understand the purpose of a question and he wouldn't respond to a direct question, but would rather have further discussion on the topic upon which the question was based.

This is when we started considering that we might have a child with autism, and he was eventually diagnosed, I think maybe 2nd or 3rd grade as Developmentally Delayed Not Otherwise Specified. My wife and I would regularly meet with his teachers to discuss his IEP as mentioned in my previous post; he was mainstreamed and kept in with a regular class and he eventually graduated with honors from the Chinese National Honor Society. I couldn't be more proud of him.

Even though we could sense some developmental delay in some areas as he was growing up, we could also discern some advances in others; this is something that the several of the specialists we spoke with told us we could expect as our son matured. One example of his advanced development was in his balance and sense of direction; he seemed to have extremely accurate proprioception. We had gone on a vacation to San Antonio, (a favorite vacation destination of my mine and my ex-wife's family as we were each growing up and we continued the tradition with our family) and by the second foray into the city for some site seeing, we could ask him which way to turn at any intersection and he would take us right back to the hotel. He was maybe 4 or 5 when he did this.

Tae Kwon Do (as does any martial art) makes use of proprioception. Our son taught himself every form in his style by the time he was on his yellow belt; that's the 2nd belt of 9 in his style; we believe, as a result of his advanced body awareness, sense of balance, and direction. Hundreds of precise movements in order, and he knew them forward and backwards. His instructor said he had never had a student as apt as he was and has him working part time at the Dojang teaching younger students, who absolutely adore him.




The parents in this story has many more challenges than my ex-wife and I had in raising our son and my heart goes to them in enduring what they have at the hands of the institution of education to which these parents entrusted their son. We got fortunate in that none of our son's teachers or any other school official ever thought it appropriate to issue a "most annoying student" award, or rather maybe I should say that the schools got luck none of them thought to do so, none of the parents I met while I was still married ever would have stood for any student getting such a thing, much less someone on the spectrum. The reactions would not have been pleasant, especially if it had been our son as not only would they have had to contend with my ex-wife and myself, but her parents were both retired teachers having multiple decades each of teaching experience so, hell would have been raised for a certain fact.
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posted on Jun, 10 2019 @ 11:26 PM
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I was, in my own inept way, pointing out that your analogy about transexuals was not relevant imho.

Anyway, this poor kid is somewhat unaware that he is being made fun of, his parents and classmates are fully aware though. It's not an acceptable thing to do.

JM2C, sorry I'm a dick!




posted on Jun, 11 2019 @ 12:16 AM
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originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: jidnum

Why is he annoying though?

Dollars to donuts, he's annoying because of issues related to his autism ... things he can't control, even if he wants to so he won't be annoying.


But see you're assuming it's his ticks that make him annoying, how do you know that? How does make you look now that your are assuming it's his autism that is making him annoying? That's actually kind of insulting and judgmental if you are thinking that way.

This is my point. Because someone is disabled we are just supposed to pity them about everything? Oh...it's ok, that guy with autism raped someone, it's just the autism, don't worry.

Oh he just likes to pull kids hair and spit on them...its autism don't worry.

It's like those mentos commercials where the guy is escaping authorities and its all G because the chasee shows the chaser a hand full of mentos and all of a sudden its like oh ok, no problem...mentos.

I'm sorry but when my disabled friends tell me they don't want to be treated "special" and they tell me that's how all of them are, i'm not going to cater to anyone because they have a disability. It doesn't help them, if anything it's condescending and insulting to assume whatever they do out of the norm is because of their disability and to just shrug it off because of said disability.



posted on Jun, 11 2019 @ 02:23 AM
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Well I am glad you are not in teaching also, as you seem to have little grasp over what the priorities of teaching are, maybe you were bullied at school and you wish to extract some karma by this boys suffering or even worse maybe you were not bullied at school and just love seeing someone less able to defend themselves being persecuted

Dont step on eggshells around me or my son we neither want your sympathy or need it from someone as callous as yourself, man lets just send kids to Gitmo, that will make them strong as jidnum requires them to be, who needs people to be who they are, we can break them to be who he wants them to be.

The problem with this world (besides people like you and the teacher), is far from people who have a disability being overly sensetive



posted on Jun, 11 2019 @ 06:12 PM
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The difference might be, your disabled friends are obviously cognizant. And I'm sure, what they welcome is the chance to do what others get to do, not be held back.
Being made fun of, due to their particular disability, maybe not so much..they may go along with it though.
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posted on Jun, 12 2019 @ 08:38 PM
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a reply to: Grambler Was not a well thought out idea did others get awards also? Fattest kid in class? Janis Joplin the singer reportedly voted ugliest male in High School.



posted on Jun, 12 2019 @ 08:54 PM
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My point was that we *don't know* why the award was assigned. The article does not say. It could have been for things the kid could control, and it may have been for things he couldn't.

But if you'd read my story from earlier, sometimes there are things within a kid's control normally that suddenly are beyond him for reasons that aren't understood (avoidance) by anyone that become annoying.

One of my son's tricks was to develop a drinking problem.



He was so miserable in school that he had reasoned that if he didn't have uniforms, he couldn't attend. So he'd poke holes in the pants, and he started catastrophically spilling chocolate milk on himself. But it was only chocolate milk, and only on days when he wore white shirts (he knew it stained). He never had that problem on days when he wore dark green shirts (no visible stain).

1,001 little disobediences. 1,001 meltdowns. 1,001 things that upset his teacher ... all of them things he'd been able to do effortlessly for every adult he'd ever interacted with before, and suddenly, he couldn't manage them even for hardly a day.

By the end of the year, he was openly wishing he'd never been born. No. He doesn't want you to pity him, but he surely does need you to understand the things he's not able to do in quite the same ways that others can. His kindergarten teacher certainly didn't pity him. She treated him exactly as you can describe and it's been two long years putting him back together.

Once we nipped him of the uniform destruction. He started to develop psychosomatic illnesses like stomach aches and headaches and coughs.



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