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BREAKING: U.S. And Mexico Have Reached A Deal On Trade And Migration

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posted on Jun, 8 2019 @ 05:11 AM
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edit on 8-6-2019 by Middleoftheroad because: (no reason given)




posted on Jun, 8 2019 @ 05:23 AM
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originally posted by: strongfp
a reply to: pavil




How dare countries capitulate to our demands.


Not sure if this is a good thing or bad thing...


Really? Getting our objectives done for our Country is a bad thing? We must have differing measuring sticks. No one got hurt, and we got what we wanted. Seems like a win anyway you want to spin it. What's the negative in your mind? Would it have been better to keep the status quo in regards to relations with Mexico in regards to immigration policy?



posted on Jun, 8 2019 @ 06:13 AM
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a reply to: pavil

"Our demands".

Part resonated a bit in my mind. Sounded rather sinister.



posted on Jun, 8 2019 @ 06:40 AM
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a reply to: Chadwickus

to use your phrase, "you can quote were anyone said they Love the president"


see your correct being an idiot is on both sides, sorry you are upset that America is getting better.

why do you care if you only want more despair? why do you want to drag things down.

Maybe the cartels do run mexico, but if so, they are scared of Tarrifs, and Trump, and that scares YOU! 😁😁😂😂🤣🤣


(I will say I love some of the things President Trump has done, but an ass can always get things done, Like the Marines)



posted on Jun, 8 2019 @ 07:29 AM
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Oh my GOD!! Stop it! Stop it! I can't take any more! For the love of Heaven, stop WINNING!

Just kidding. I'm not tired of winning yet.


Not even close.

The thing I find so amusing is that Trump is like a city cop who has had the city take away his guns, his taser, any knives, everything he has except his billy club. At the same time, they invited a bunch of criminals into the city and are demanding that the cop handle the higher crime with that one lone, expected-to-be-inefficient tool. And yet, in true John Wayne style, the cop cleans up the town anyway, while the city complains he is using his billy club too much!

The tariffs are the billy club, if anyone missed that.

Trump has, amid having to fight tooth and nail every step of the way for the tools every other President has had at their disposal, done more in two and a half years than I can remember any president ever doing in 8. Just imagine what he could accomplish with the same unencumbered authorities that Obama, Bush, Clinton, Bush, Reagan, Carter, Nixon, etc. had?

Now, for a little more winning... I predict that the beginning of next week will see a MAJOR spike in the stock market. Now, that will followed by a pretty substantial correction as well, so if anyone wants to do some fast trades, now is the time; people are going to get excited and then realize their excitement was overstated a bit. By the end of the month, assuming this deal holds, we will see job numbers and wage growth jump yet again as investors begin to see that there really is some security for them and their investments under this administration. I also expect to see the Asian markets undergo a small further correction, which will ease negotiations with China.

Oh, one more thing people seem to have not noticed... this deal must be ratified by the Senate, which is a given, but once ratified it becomes a requirement for the US to either fulfill their obligations under it or withdraw from it. That means that the House just lost some of its power to stifle Trump on border control, because now there is a documented agreement that Trump has to expedite the asylum process, which means either the House allocates funds, or Trump takes them from somewhere else. If they allocate funds, they can attach riders and have some say in the border situation. If they don't, the House will have no say whatsoever on the border.

Pundits will pick up on that pretty soon, and it'll scramble some egos among the House Democrats.

But, there is a downside to all this for Trump... he is cementing his position as a proven liar. He lied about not getting a good decision from the courts on his National Emergency... and now we find out he lied about people being tired of winning. I'm not tired of winning yet... anyone else?

And yes, we still need the wall. Yes, we're still getting the wall. That one's a done deal now.

MAGA!

TheRedneck



posted on Jun, 8 2019 @ 09:04 AM
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a reply to: thedigirati

How do you turn me pointing out a bit of hypocrisy and blind cheerleading into being scared and upset?

It’s like you’ve created your own reality where anything remotely disparaging of the messiah must be met with +10 MAGA defences.



posted on Jun, 8 2019 @ 09:14 AM
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a reply to: TheRedneck

I’m glad he could get the deal done with a government that mere days earlier he implied were controlled by the cartels.



posted on Jun, 8 2019 @ 09:16 AM
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a reply to: Chadwickus

They are.

This isnt an Implication. Influence from drug cartels in Mexican governments is pervasive. Including the federal government.
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posted on Jun, 8 2019 @ 09:46 AM
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originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

originally posted by: Krakatoa

originally posted by: Chadwickus

originally posted by: thedigirati
a reply to: Chadwickus

see, the spin is in already 🌷🕵️‍♀️🕵️‍♀️

and here I thought bullying was a bad thing👍🤞🤞

Now there wiil be calls that President Trump colluded with Mexico
🌮🌮🌮


No spin needed.

A thread by one of ATS’s most reliable, unbiased members:

President Trump Implies that Mexico is Run by Drug Lords - Cartels - Smugglers.

So, was he wrong or did he make this deal with the cartel?

Oops,

Time for the real spin by you guys now. Have at it.





So, you think a question is a statement of fact? < face plam >

From the source you linked:

“Are the Drug Lords, Cartels & Coyotes really running Mexico? We will soon find out!”


See that squiggly little line at the end of the first sentence.....that is a question mark, it indicates a question without an answer, and not a statement of fact.

Please, get your head out of your TDS. You are foaming again....hate will destroy you.






Are you really unable to have a simple conversation without all the theatrics? FFS calm down and just chit chat.



Triggered!?!?!?


Awww.... poor thing.



posted on Jun, 8 2019 @ 09:52 AM
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originally posted by: Chadwickus
a reply to: TheRedneck

I’m glad he could get the deal done with a government that mere days earlier he implied were controlled by the cartels.





I see you are still pound the misinterpretation of a question and cherry picking from the article.

It must suck to have to realize that the president is getting things done despite your need for him to fail.

What a sad existence that is....you have my pity.




posted on Jun, 8 2019 @ 09:58 AM
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It’s great news he’s getting things done.

This trade deal seems pretty good.

I just don’t understand why he implied the Mexican government was controlled by the cartels etc just days before this.

Doesn’t make a whole lot of sense to me.

Maybe you can explain it to me without being an A grade wanker about it?

And if I did cherry pick that article, can you show where they aren’t crowing about how amazeballs Trump is for calling a spade a spade?

That is the entire point of that article.






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posted on Jun, 8 2019 @ 10:14 AM
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originally posted by: Chadwickus
a reply to: Krakatoa

It’s great news he’s getting things done.

This trade deal seems pretty good.

I just don’t understand why he implied the Mexican government was controlled by the cartels etc just days before this.

Doesn’t make a whole lot of sense to me.

Maybe you can explain it to me without being an A grade wanker about it?

And if I did cherry pick that article, can you show where they aren’t crowing about how amazeballs Trump is for calling a spade a spade?

That is the entire point of that article.







He posited a question about whether the Mexican govt was run by the cartels, did he not?

Then, he posited an observation, "We shall see".
You cheery picked when you failed to also include the followup observation as part of that entire dialog. Why was that?

See, in essence, if the Mexican government were truly run by the cartels, there would have been NO negotiations nor deal about stopping illegal immigration, as we just saw. The cartels make $$$$ from illegal immigration (which also includes the by-product of drug mules mixed into the flow), not so much the manufacturing economy. So, a tariff is mostly irrelevant to the cartels, whereas illegal immigration is more relevant to their bottom line.


We shall see was in relation to his unspoken plan to use the tariff as a differentiator of the Mexican government and how closely they were tied to the cartels.

By not taking the entire dialog into account in your assessment, you appear more of a wanker than I, since I did not make the initial claim.



Get it now?







edit on 6/8/2019 by Krakatoa because: fixed spelling errors



posted on Jun, 8 2019 @ 10:20 AM
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a reply to: strongfp

Really dude?



posted on Jun, 8 2019 @ 10:32 AM
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a reply to: Chadwickus


It’s great news he’s getting things done.

This trade deal seems pretty good.

We agree! So orange man good this one time, right?


I just don’t understand why he implied the Mexican government was controlled by the cartels etc just days before this.

Mexico was (and is) heavily influenced by the cartels. That's true. But Trump just exerted more influence than the cartels and got a good trade deal. It's not rocket science. The tariffs were going to hurt the Mexican government more than the cartels helped them.

Simple enough?

TheRedneck



posted on Jun, 8 2019 @ 10:37 AM
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a reply to: Chadwickus

So using your logic.

If a democrat says republicans are racist, or elitsist scumbags, and then deos a budget deal with them that gets many things democrats want, we need to call out democrats for dealing with racists, right?



posted on Jun, 8 2019 @ 10:47 AM
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a reply to: projectvxn

Really what? I don't like for one, war in any form, and two the people who think one side needs to 'lose' while the other is winning. Middle grounds need to be met, it's called diplomacy.

Mexico came to the table and met in the middle with the US admin. Why do you need to have a superiority complex with your neighbor? Especially one that has massive issues with drugs and corruption and wants to fix things.

This isn't a win for just the states, it's a win for Mexico and stability in North America.



posted on Jun, 8 2019 @ 10:51 AM
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a reply to: strongfp

Because Orange man bad, right?

Orange man cannot do anything good.

Got it.



posted on Jun, 8 2019 @ 10:57 AM
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I can’t even listen to her. Her thinking is so off it is painful to listen. She is so determined to keep us on a path to socialism and everything that is detrimental to America. She is so determined to make our President look like a fool while she and her fellow travelers tear our country to pieces like rabid wolves.



posted on Jun, 8 2019 @ 10:58 AM
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a reply to: Krakatoa

Huh?

Do you have a hard time with reading comprehension where I acknowledge this is a GOOD thing, or you just gonna get all combative because it's me?



posted on Jun, 8 2019 @ 11:00 AM
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a reply to: Lumenari

My favorite part from your link -


Leaving the State Department Friday night, Mexican Foreign Secretary Marcelo Ebrard said he thought the deal struck “a fair balance” because the U.S. “had more drastic proposals and measures at the start.”


Ask for the moon, settle for what you really want, and let them think they won. Pure Art of the Deal



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