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The left and the truth .

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posted on Jun, 7 2019 @ 05:47 PM
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Much of the left pushes the MSM narrative it.

Early on the fact that much of the left believed the mainstream media was obvious. For a long time I just thought of them as simple minded and gullible.

Not anymore.

Both knowingly push obvious lies, they create their own narrative and they use the deception to achieve their goals.


I looked into it, here’s what I came up with. If not a symptom of DTS, it’s a pretty good diagnosis of some on the left.


The article showed four different types of liars.




Compulsive liars.

A compulsive liar is defined as someone who lies out of habit. Lying is their normal and reflexive way of responding to questions. Compulsive liars bend the truth about everything, large and small. For a compulsive liar, telling the truth is very awkward and uncomfortable while lying feels right. Compulsive lying is usually thought to develop in early childhood, due to being placed in an environment where lying was necessary. For the most part, compulsive liars are not overly manipulative and cunning (unlike sociopaths), rather they simply lie out of habit—an automatic response which is hard to break and one that takes its toll on a relationship


Everybody knows a compulsive liar or two they are mostly harmless and usually obvious .

Not a threat

Snip


After Reading the different classifications of liars. IMO this class that fits best........




Sociopathic liar’s

Sociopathic liars can be difficult to deal with. #1 Sociopaths lack empathy and do not care if their lies negatively impact or harm others. Sociopathic liars can be narcissistic, but this isn’t always the case. #2 Sociopathic liars are master manipulators. They will tell you a story to get you to do what they want. Being the “target” for a sociopath likely feels awkward because it conflicts with a person’s sense of right and wrong. #3However, a sociopathic liar will continue to get you to see things their way until you’ve given in to doing what they want.
Again, sociopaths do not feel empathy. So, if you tell a sociopath that you aren’t comfortable with something, the sociopath likely won’t care but will act as if they do.


Exponential threat

Instead of killing many just manipulate and lie .


#1 A good example of lack of empathy is the kids at Covington Catholic high school in Kentucky.

#2 they manipulate each other with information, anger and appeals to their heart. They manipulate the public with Shame, intimidation, vilifying or labeling. Again with no empathy.

#3 Number three isn’t going as planned. The smart people are already starting to #WalkAway. But that segment is somewhat limited.

The remaining leftist must be sociopathic liars.

Nobody can be stupid enough to believe all of the MSM narrative . Which means some are lying intentionally .

We are stuck with millions of liars that are both gullible and dumb who won’t quit until they achieve their goals.


I hope someone develops a pill for it before they wear us down.




www.thrivetalk.com...

www.truthaboutdeception.com...
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posted on Jun, 7 2019 @ 05:53 PM
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Both sides are equally guilty of intentionally spreading false information.

Don't just pin it on the left. The right wing media does it as well.



posted on Jun, 7 2019 @ 06:04 PM
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a reply to: Fallingdown


they create their own narrative and they use the deception to achieve their goals.


Nobody can be stupid enough to believe all of the MSM narrative . Which means some are lying intentionally .


You mean, like Fox?


Compulsive liars.



Sociopathic liar’s
[sic]

You mean, like the "president" of the United States?




I hope someone develops a pill for it before they wear us down.


They need to develop a pill for gullible stupidity. Unfortunately, you can't fix stupid.



posted on Jun, 7 2019 @ 06:08 PM
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The Far left deceives people, misapplying or purposely twisting information to make what they desire to happen... happen

They are trying to grow their numbers. These liars just like to deceive others, they will twist anything to stir up chaos that can bring people in line with their ways. We managed to keep these type of people out of congress or limited their abilities to stir up chaos throughout the years, but their numbers are rising in the Democratic party. It is a game to them to deceive others, it is a sort of sociopathic trend that is emerging. It is growing in this country and will result in large chaotic swings, eventually wiping out all the good changes that have come into play from years gone by by conservatives and many of the middle ground democrats that are now aligning with the conservatives because the far left's deception is getting transparent. Pelosi, Warren, and a few top Democratic Senators are destroying any chance of our country slowly evolving to a better place, a major swing to the right will occur, it is evident with the abortion laws being passed by some states, but that is just a start. Soon the words politically correct will be banned and the lies of the progressives will cause a loss of our ability to legally think out of the box. Enjoy your freedoms, deceivers will soon cause us to lose some of our rights.



posted on Jun, 7 2019 @ 06:08 PM
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originally posted by: grey580
Both sides are equally guilty of intentionally spreading false information.

Don't just pin it on the left. The right wing media does it as well.


There's right wing media, where? Is there a tv channel I can turn to that gives balanced factual news without editorialization and crazy Lett wing bias? Where are these bastions of truth without spin?

Cheers - Dave



posted on Jun, 7 2019 @ 06:11 PM
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originally posted by: bobs_uruncle

originally posted by: grey580
Both sides are equally guilty of intentionally spreading false information.

Don't just pin it on the left. The right wing media does it as well.


There's right wing media, where? Is there a tv channel I can turn to that gives balanced factual news without editorialization and crazy Lett wing bias? Where are these bastions of truth without spin?

Cheers - Dave





There never really has been, it's up to the viewer to discern the information they are exposed to.



posted on Jun, 7 2019 @ 06:16 PM
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a reply to: bobs_uruncle

As you can see. Close to all have some bias.

AP & Reuters is probably as close as you can get to unbiased news.


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posted on Jun, 7 2019 @ 06:17 PM
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a reply to: grey580

Give me an example .

Most of the right questions what the media says.

Of course there are some lies from conservative outlets. But with nowhere near the deceitfulness or the quantity .

I’ve deen many many people and in the media that still use “Trump called all Mexicans rapists and murderers “.

That’s been debunked it was completely out of context and cherry picked. But a lot of people still push it like it’s true .



posted on Jun, 7 2019 @ 06:21 PM
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a reply to: Fallingdown

Give you an example of what?

Fake news from Ring Media?



posted on Jun, 7 2019 @ 06:29 PM
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Use the wayback time machine to see how it all unfolded. Take CNN , for example. Go back 10 years and see what was reported compared to now.

web.archive.org...://www.cnn.com/

Very little political content in 2009 compared to what it is now.
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posted on Jun, 7 2019 @ 06:44 PM
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a reply to: Liquesence


You mean, like Fox?


Fox has Chris Wallace, Shepard Smith, Neil Cavado, Brett Baer and even Tucker. Who get on Trump and other conservatives asses when they need it . Show me 5 similar host/anchors that get on Hillary or liberal policy on the media you watch.


You mean, like the "president" of the United States?


Thank you I was hoping someone would bring that up . So you subscribe to the 14,000 lies dogma . The sheer volume and types of lies they are using make it a false narrative which is a lie and is used for manipulation . Which you’re pushing .

If Trump tells a joke the media calls it a lie. If he miss speaks a number the media calls it a lie if he changes his oposition the media says its a lie.


Meanwhile Joe Biden changed his long-term position on abortion. The media called it flip-flopping including fox .

If that list is accurate. You should be able to point to at least one time where the media treated Trump similar .



posted on Jun, 7 2019 @ 06:48 PM
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a reply to: Fallingdown

"They, they they; us, us, us.
They, they, they ; us, us, us."

Somewhere on a left leaning forum, a staunch leftist proclaims the same thing.

And round we go...



posted on Jun, 7 2019 @ 06:50 PM
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a reply to: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

Sometimes due to grammar my point is hard to decipher .

But your post is to the point.

It is up to the viewer to decide whether the information is accurate .

My position is there’s no way the majority of people can be dumb enough to believe all of it .

Which would mean they are lying on purpose.

“the end justifies the means”.



posted on Jun, 7 2019 @ 06:54 PM
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originally posted by: grey580
Both sides are equally guilty of intentionally spreading false information.

Don't just pin it on the left. The right wing media does it as well.


Agreed.

And both sides say the other side does it more.
And both sides give tons of examples of the other side doing it.



posted on Jun, 7 2019 @ 07:05 PM
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a reply to: grey580

No give me one example of fox lying.

It’s a acid test .

If fox is lying I will admit it .

Then I’ll give you a CNN story .

I’ve read your post you seem to be honest so it shouldn’t be a problem. But for 98% of the people I’ve talk to on social media none of them will admit to a lie.

Where in the heck did you get that chart in the earlier post ?

CNN is more to the center than fox ?

Do you remember the Harvard study on anti-trump bias? The conclusion of the study might be old but it is still accurate. They found that around 90% the main stream medias coverage was anti-trump .

Buried towards the bottom was Fox News where they found Fox 52% anti-trump coverage .

Which news agencies do you think are holding the center ground ?



posted on Jun, 7 2019 @ 07:28 PM
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a reply to: Fallingdown

I think both the left and the right are "The Left".

Neither "side" wants to reduce the size and scope of government, neither "side" wants to expose the constant corruption in place in DC.

Just look at the Congressional Hush Fund for sexual harassment. Neither "side" wants to expose it.

Both "sides" want to raise taxes. It's just the republicans are trapped by their own lies and promises. The democrats openly want to destroy the Constitution, openly destroy the very fabric of our country.

They have changed and manipulated terms and definitions so much, but in the end. . . . they are the Communists. They want total control, they want subjects to rule over. They are anti-freedom, anti-liberty, anti-American, anti-Constitutional.

They want to destroy us. They want to imprison, encamp, re-train, re-educate us.

With their global warming and climate change crap to open borders, they are actively and openly subverting not only the rule of law, but the idea, the very concept of individual freedom and independence.


/rant



posted on Jun, 7 2019 @ 07:33 PM
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Very little of what is presented in the media matches up with factual data anymore. For example, if you watched the news you'd think that women are being murdered at an alarmingly disproportionate rate. It seems like all the time they have some pretty girl's picture up there that was the victim of a ghastly murder -- and the media will go on about it ad nauseam. The same goes for those informative murder porn shows. You hear third wave feminists complaining all the time about how they feel unsafe even going out in their communities. Only, if you ever bothered to look up the factual data you'd learn that over 78% of all murder victims in the United States are male. Why do we seldom hear about those?



posted on Jun, 7 2019 @ 07:38 PM
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a reply to: Fallingdown

Isn't that an Oxymoron ? You know , Like " Giant Shrimp " ? ...........Hmm



posted on Jun, 7 2019 @ 07:39 PM
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a reply to: Fallingdown

" knowingly push obvious lies, they create their own narrative and they use the deception to achieve their goals. "


Geez , is my Ex Wife One of them Now Too ? The Horror !



posted on Jun, 7 2019 @ 07:44 PM
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originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: Fallingdown

I think both the left and the right are "The Left".

Neither "side" wants to reduce the size and scope of government, neither "side" wants to expose the constant corruption in place in DC.

Just look at the Congressional Hush Fund for sexual harassment. Neither "side" wants to expose it.

Both "sides" want to raise taxes. It's just the republicans are trapped by their own lies and promises. The democrats openly want to destroy the Constitution, openly destroy the very fabric of our country.

They have changed and manipulated terms and definitions so much, but in the end. . . . they are the Communists. They want total control, they want subjects to rule over. They are anti-freedom, anti-liberty, anti-American, anti-Constitutional.

They want to destroy us. They want to imprison, encamp, re-train, re-educate us.

With their global warming and climate change crap to open borders, they are actively and openly subverting not only the rule of law, but the idea, the very concept of individual freedom and independence.


/rant




Maybe the terminology needs to change, blaming the left is dumb, I agree with much of what you say but I think you are pinning blame on the people when it's clearly corporations pushing these agendas and the corps have the media and government in tow.




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