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IAEA Iran 6 to 8 months away from having nuclear weapons .

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posted on Jun, 10 2019 @ 02:37 PM
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a reply to: Fallingdown

If you knew anything about the history preceding the Vietnam War (the parts that pertain to US), you'd be trying to avoid the topic altogether.

Korea wasnt on the list. Although from what I know about DAMN NEAR every other war the US had its hands into, about how the why the wars happened, it might make that list too.

So we save a few thousand lives while carpet bombing some others, spraying their entire regions with the likes of Agent Orange and Depleted Uranium NAH forget that because we "saved them" in the process.

Hey you know what, we should pat ourselves on the back because hey we only killed 879,829 people in one of those decades, nevermind the 8,000,000 other peoples innocent civilians whose lives were also destroyed in those pursuits, because hey we give aid to Israel et al (our imperial beachead in their region).




posted on Jun, 10 2019 @ 02:38 PM
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a reply to: Fallingdown

I love these claims. When you ask them for details they're scant at best. Usually they'll point to the embarrassingly inflated Iraq War death estimates, where they pretty much blame the US for everyone that has died in Iraq for any reason since 2003.



posted on Jun, 10 2019 @ 02:58 PM
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Everyone that dies in Iraq from US bombs/DU/etc, and the death squads (the ones we trained and the others we didnt), Al Qaeda etc and so on "terrorist" groups, etc, that's all Saddam Hussein's fault.


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posted on Jun, 10 2019 @ 03:05 PM
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I know what you mean.

I actually came here to get away from endless ego arguments like this .

For the most part I’m glad I made the move .
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posted on Jun, 10 2019 @ 03:31 PM
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And I did provide a huge thread chock full of numbers.

Instead of dispute them with 'better' numbers he just flat out brushed it off and made the whole debate about some pointless Question.



posted on Jun, 10 2019 @ 04:49 PM
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a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

The sum this up as clearly as possible .

I wasn’t defending the US. We have caused great number of deaths. I was just calling your hyperbolic figures BS .


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posted on Jun, 10 2019 @ 05:10 PM
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Called my data BS without actually refutung it. That's the very essence of emotional kneejerk "reasoning".



posted on Jun, 10 2019 @ 05:39 PM
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I called it BS because you couldn’t prove it.

You threw some loose numbers out there that were in no way conclusive.

People aren’t suppose to defeat claims.

People that make claims are suppose to be able to back them .

You know damn good and well you overstated the figures.

But you can’t even say that you exaggerated a little.

You would still be able to make the same overall point . ( which I wasn’t arguing with )

I would call you stubborn but the problem is I’m just as stubborn as you are . Lol

I have admited I was wrong when I said millions .

I apologized after I saw you already answered my question .

I can do that because my ego/anger doesn’t get in the way .

I think the Problem we’re having is.

I’m detached from the discussion but to you it’s personal .


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posted on Jun, 11 2019 @ 12:41 AM
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I've got 37 (thirty seven) links on that page to back up the numbers. So far you've provided 0 (ZERO) counter pieces of data to refute my work there. And this has been going on for days now. I managed that piece in a mere few hours. You're being intellectually lazy, and cowardly here, as you troll your own thread. And everyone with half a brain can see it.

Which is odd as I even told you how to take me head on in this:

originally posted by: IgnoranceIsntBlisss
Now you can:

Debunk the numbers.

Provide counter-numbers, numbers by other means that would have us the good guys, and try to balance the score.

Or quit.


Yet I'll admit I was wrong on that bit, a False Dichotomy, as there was a 4th option: troll (deliberately derail) your own thread.




posted on Jun, 11 2019 @ 08:50 AM
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originally posted by: IgnoranceIsntBlisss
a reply to: face23785

And I did provide a huge thread chock full of numbers.

Instead of dispute them with 'better' numbers he just flat out brushed it off and made the whole debate about some pointless Question.


If you were even halfway informed on this subject you wouldn't have said that. All conflicts have a range of death toll estimates, not just one. All you did was take the ones that add up to what you wanted to claim was the US death toll. You either did that on purpose and are being dishonest on purpose, or you're just an uninformed shill for the "# America" crowd. I already made this point about the Iraq War but you ignored it.



posted on Jun, 11 2019 @ 12:40 PM
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Dbl

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posted on Jun, 11 2019 @ 12:43 PM
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First off this thread is on Iran. You’re the one taking it off topic .

Give me a link to your Thread again.

I bet the only thing I’m going to see is you blaming every single death in every war on the US .


I’ll tell you what. Let’s concentrate specifically on the 1980s right now.

Let’s see what you got .
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posted on Jun, 11 2019 @ 12:49 PM
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originally posted by: Fallingdown
a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

First off this thread is on Iran. You’re the one taking it off topic .

Give me a link to your Thread again.

I bet the only thing I’m going to see is you blaming every single death in every war on the US .




Basically he just cherry-picks from the range of death estimates in each war to get the figure he wants. It's not a serious thread.



posted on Jun, 11 2019 @ 01:27 PM
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Oops

# and rush my reply . Lol
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posted on Jun, 11 2019 @ 02:44 PM
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originally posted by: Fallingdown

Those totals are a long way off from 1,000,000+ per month .

I’m awaiting movement of the goal post .


Now I know you're screwing with me as the entire topic has been a million per decade, not month.


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posted on Jun, 11 2019 @ 02:46 PM
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originally posted by: face23785

originally posted by: Fallingdown
a reply to: IgnoranceIsntBlisss

First off this thread is on Iran. You’re the one taking it off topic .

Give me a link to your Thread again.

I bet the only thing I’m going to see is you blaming every single death in every war on the US .


Basically he just cherry-picks from the range of death estimates in each war to get the figure he wants. It's not a serious thread.


A proper refutation woukld include new data, not just a mere claim / assertion / denial.



posted on Jun, 11 2019 @ 02:57 PM
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I confused it with with millions . I was posting on the run my bad .

Your tally of 27 million deaths caused by America. When did that begin ?



posted on Jun, 11 2019 @ 03:19 PM
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The start. But left out a lot of wars that 'made sense'. Such as the ones "we" didnt start with say a flase flag or worse.



posted on Jun, 11 2019 @ 03:33 PM
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I let you take me off my position earlier. That also shows with my mistake that I wasn’t paying much attention to you .


You told me to do research. I don’t have to do research you’re the one that made the outlandish claim now prove it .

If you can’t prove the US killed 1,000,000+ per decade you lose and your position is nothing but hollow words .



posted on Jun, 11 2019 @ 03:51 PM
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By the start I guess you mean 1776 ?

That’s a little over 1 million per decade.

Every single death was at the US hand .

Take Vietnam as an example. Between 1 and 2 million dead. Did you use that number and say the US caused all the deaths or did you take into account the Vietnamese and Viet cong’s Civilian death totals ?



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