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Popular German physicist Harald Lesch about Trumps Knowledge

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posted on Jun, 5 2019 @ 03:58 PM
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originally posted by: Peeple
a reply to: oloufo

They just don't understand in Europe not everything is left or right. Many parties seems to have its advantages.
Harald Lesch is not connected with any party in Germany and even if, thankfully our scientists value science without politics.






posted on Jun, 5 2019 @ 04:10 PM
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originally posted by: TheRedneck
a reply to: JohnnyCanuck

That was when they had scientists that knew what science was.

This dude don't.

TheRedneck


Harald Lesch Awards

1988 Otto-Hahn-Medallion from the Max-Planck-Society (for the dissertation “Nonlinear Plasma Processes in Active Galactic Cores)
1994 Bennigsen-Foerder-Prize from the state of North Rhine-Westphalia (EUR 75,000): “Heating of Galactic High Speed Clouds through Magnetic Reconnection”
2004 Prize for Scientific Journalism from the Grüter-Foundation (EUR 10,000)
2005 Communicator-Prize (EUR 50,000)
2005 Medallion for Natural Science Journalism from the German Physical Society
2009 Medallion “Bene Merenti de Astronomia Norimbergensi” in Gold from the Nuremberg Astronomical Society.
2009 IQ Award

Pretty sure you wouldn't act that ignorant if you knew him. He is one of the good guys. Far far away from any ideology. What about you?



posted on Jun, 5 2019 @ 04:12 PM
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originally posted by: Lumenari

originally posted by: Peeple
a reply to: Lumenari

Oh boy you really believe your excuse for entertaing the bias you have is "it's the truth". How do you know? Where is the proof? It's just your opinion but you want so desperately to be right you close your eyes put your fingers in your ears and go "no no no".
Why are you here if you are not open for arguments of "the other side" which have proof for their arguments? Without ever either understanding what is posted, or you are not reading, or just bleep out the uncomfortable parts, those against your bias.

And seriously you Need to name your other perceived enemy even here? Or is that somehow completely controlling your mind "the liberals..." is Earth only of concern for liberals? Are you not living in this planet, do you have another one or is this attitude like saying "the house falls apart but at least it's not burning down"?


I'm sorry I'm not a member of your church sweety.

However, you have the right to believe any kind of fantasy you want to.

Progressivism in America, however, should be the enemy of any patriotic American.

After all, that is about the only thing on the planet that will destroy us as a country.

And it is certainly trying to.



The danger here is that they think they're making things better. They actually, seriously think that.



posted on Jun, 5 2019 @ 04:12 PM
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a reply to: Peeple

I trust science. I do not always trust all scientists.

TheRedneck



posted on Jun, 5 2019 @ 04:16 PM
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a reply to: LABTECH767

Then how do you explain the hotter climate on the same planet in the past when humans were nonexistent? Industries were nonexistent. Cars were nonexistent. Burning fossil fuels were nonexistent. Antarctica was full of trees and plants because the climate was so hot. Would you mind explaining that before telling me or others that we're the ones responsible for today's climate?



posted on Jun, 5 2019 @ 04:16 PM
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a reply to: oloufo


Pretty sure you wouldn't act that ignorant if you knew him. He is one of the good guys.

I don't care if he's a "good guy," a "bad guy," or a "OK guy." He does not know about IGCC technology but weighs in on clean coal technology as though he were some sort of expert. Even says clean coal isn't possible because if you pick coal up it gets your hands dirty.

That is ignorance trying to disguise itself as science. He can be the greatest guy on the planet, and he's still promoting ignorance instead of science.

TheRedneck



posted on Jun, 5 2019 @ 04:17 PM
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originally posted by: Whodathunkdatcheese

originally posted by: Peeple
a reply to: oloufo

They just don't understand in Europe not everything is left or right. Many parties seems to have its advantages.
Harald Lesch is not connected with any party in Germany and even if, thankfully our scientists value science without politics.


I guess we don't have the same "politics as sport" mentality. It's not "our side is right at all costs". Most people are conservative on some things, liberal on others and left wing on the rest. Just like the real world.

To us, the idea that climate change is a political issue, or vaccines, is silly. We don't have a "fairness doctrine" that gives equal weight to facts and opinions. We don't have astroturf activist groups sending billions on talking notes for us to parrot at each other.

I say we don't. We are starting to have and it still looks pretty stupid to the rest of us.

Then again, we have a very different history. Many of us have survived life in a fascist state so we know what it looks like, how it starts. We are still raw enough to see the anti-semitic overtones in the George Soros conspiracy nonsense.

Or maybe we get a distorted view of the US from websites like these, just as they get a distorted view of us.





posted on Jun, 5 2019 @ 04:26 PM
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a reply to: TheRedneck

When you said we'd have to change the Polish jokes to German jokes, the joke that immediately popped in my head was the ice cube joke, then I finished reading your post...




posted on Jun, 5 2019 @ 04:30 PM
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originally posted by: Peeple
a reply to: Lumenari

Where is the data to support your opinion? And you dare calling my opinion a church?
You don't even notice how messed up that is?



Global Warming: The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration may have a boring name, but it has a very important job: It measures U.S. temperatures. Unfortunately, it seems to be a captive of the global warming religion. Its data are fraudulent.

www.investors.com...


There are literally thousands of pages filled up with data and testimony from people assigned to the weather stations who claim to have purposely falsified the data. Some for funding opportunities (like in Canada), others just because they were told so. First they pushed the narrative of the Global Warming. When that stopped making any sense, they switched to Climate Change. Since 1970 not a single one prediction about weather doom scenario has come to be true. One day the man made climate change it will be recognized as the biggest hoax in human history.
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posted on Jun, 5 2019 @ 05:27 PM
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originally posted by: oloufo

originally posted by: TheRedneck
a reply to: JohnnyCanuck
That was when they had scientists that knew what science was.

This dude don't.

TheRedneck


Harald Lesch Awards

1988 Otto-Hahn-Medallion from the Max-Planck-Society (for the dissertation “Nonlinear Plasma Processes in Active Galactic Cores)
1994 Bennigsen-Foerder-Prize from the state of North Rhine-Westphalia (EUR 75,000): “Heating of Galactic High Speed Clouds through Magnetic Reconnection”
2004 Prize for Scientific Journalism from the Grüter-Foundation (EUR 10,000)
2005 Communicator-Prize (EUR 50,000)
2005 Medallion for Natural Science Journalism from the German Physical Society
2009 Medallion “Bene Merenti de Astronomia Norimbergensi” in Gold from the Nuremberg Astronomical Society.
2009 IQ Award

Pretty sure you wouldn't act that ignorant if you knew him. He is one of the good guys. Far far away from any ideology. What about you?

Must be fake news.



posted on Jun, 5 2019 @ 06:27 PM
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a reply to: JohnnyCanuck

It's even faker than fake!!!oneoneelleven
There is no such Thing as a Harald Lesch Award!!!oneoneeleven

(yet)





posted on Jun, 5 2019 @ 08:11 PM
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a reply to: LSU2018

Oh you mean both pre snowball earth (snowballearth.org...) a period of a much hotter and younger planet with a much thinner crust and more geological activity and also the period following the snow ball earth period before and during the so called Cambrian explosion - and of course during much of the planet's history up unto about 5 or so million years ago?.

I was not there and neither were you but LIFE both cool's and warm's the climate by exchanging atmospheric gas and this can in fact get out of balance, life may be responsible for the start of the snow ball earth period by absorbing too much atmospheric insulating gas it allowed the planet to cool.

Likewise life can warm the planet by releasing those gas back into the atmosphere.

The assumption/theory that the sun will get hotter as it ages is based on model's of the life cycles of stars, our star is a G2 yellow dwarf main sequence star and is a stable star while other stars are more volatile.

As a star consumes it's hydrogen it goes through a process of fusing heavier and heavier element's, these element's are created by the fusion process itself and in the high temperature and pressure plasma of a star's core they also as they are fused due in part to having more electron valency's occupy more and more space or take up more room, so an old star that has consumed all of it's hydrogen and is now fusing much heavier element's become's much larger in volume and occupy's more space, it also radiates more heat while a younger star occupy's less space and is much more efficient as well as radiating over all less heat from a MUCH smaller volume of space at the center of it's solar system.

Meanwhile in a young solar system were the planetary body's are formed from the original nebula accretion disc left over from the stellar bursary were the star itself was born (new stars are born form the debris field corpse of exploded - gone super nova - super giant ancient stars) they can be seen as star cores that never got big enough BUT there formation as particles and gas clump together forming these cores which then take on the role of planets orbiting the largest body in the group that usually becomes a star like our sun are also very hot, the gas and debris of the nebula itself may have cooled and only been a bit warmer than the background temperature of space itself but as gravity take's affect rock's and dust collide, friction and kinetic energy create heat and it get's so hot that these young planet's become molten ball's perhaps with very thin primordial crusts orbiting there star, it take's perhaps millions of years or even longer for the crust to become stable enough for early continents to form on a planet like earth but the heat of the planet' core even without tidal forced which can re-invigorate it by adding another source of friction and make it stay hot even longer still has to radiate out through the crust - which also act's like an insulating blanket - as does the atmosphere above that crust.

This mean's that there are two sources of heat, the sun and the core of the planet, if the planet is insulated enough not only MIGHT it trap more solar heat but it could also prevent loss of heat from it's core.

At several time's in the past the earth's atmosphere has had significantly more atmospheric insulation in the form of greenhouse gas as well call them today, carbon dioxide being one but also at time's our atmosphere has resembled more that of an alien an inhospitable planet with more sulfur probably making that ancient earth look very different to the blue grey sky's we know today.

Also younger earth had a slightly thinner crust meaning more core heat reached the surface and warmed it.

So over geological and astronomical time scales the planet is a dynamic body that takes a long time to cool, heat remains trapped inside the core of the planet for a very - very long time and some of that heat will always radiate to the surface, not enough to sustain surface life without our sun but enough to allow speculation that somewhere out there in the cosmos a rogue planet without a star could still support life, perhaps below it's surface.

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posted on Jun, 5 2019 @ 09:02 PM
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a reply to: Peeple

Trust Science ? Just the Facts Maam ....





posted on Jun, 5 2019 @ 10:01 PM
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originally posted by: LSU2018

originally posted by: Lumenari

originally posted by: Peeple
a reply to: Lumenari

Oh boy you really believe your excuse for entertaing the bias you have is "it's the truth". How do you know? Where is the proof? It's just your opinion but you want so desperately to be right you close your eyes put your fingers in your ears and go "no no no".
Why are you here if you are not open for arguments of "the other side" which have proof for their arguments? Without ever either understanding what is posted, or you are not reading, or just bleep out the uncomfortable parts, those against your bias.

And seriously you Need to name your other perceived enemy even here? Or is that somehow completely controlling your mind "the liberals..." is Earth only of concern for liberals? Are you not living in this planet, do you have another one or is this attitude like saying "the house falls apart but at least it's not burning down"?


I'm sorry I'm not a member of your church sweety.

However, you have the right to believe any kind of fantasy you want to.

Progressivism in America, however, should be the enemy of any patriotic American.

After all, that is about the only thing on the planet that will destroy us as a country.

And it is certainly trying to.



The danger here is that they think they're making things better. They actually, seriously think that.


What is it "they" are doing? In Germany policians had a big mouth about the Paris thing, but stay themselves far behind their own goals. That's what our youth is outraged about. And they're quite cute and smart. So their parents and grandparents start to wonder too.
They go in different directions but we are basically all on board when it's about making places cleaner.

And politically left right is for most who aren't any kind of fundamentalist or extremist just don't make it worse is the battlecry. German Angst is real. We worry all the time. About different topics but still.

Just so you know some background about the guy he is astrophicist and nature philosoph, he is the guy we turn to, to explain us the life, the universe and everything.
Now he's explaining stuff on tv and writes book, the current scientific consensus in a way the public can understand.
Guys like that are in Germany often conservative.

Just some things to consider.



posted on Jun, 5 2019 @ 10:16 PM
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a reply to: Zanti Misfit

Show me yours. What "facts" have convinced you?



posted on Jun, 6 2019 @ 12:02 AM
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originally posted by: oloufo
Harald Lesch is a German physicist, astronomer, natural philosopher, author, television presenter, professor of physics at the Ludwig Maximilian University of Munich (LMU) and professor of natural philosophy at the Munich University of Philosophy. Due to being one of the most influential German science communicators and coming from an astrophysics background, he can be compared to Neil deGrasse Tyson.

He is pretty popular in Germany (on all sides). In this video he fact-checks some of trumps statements. With subtitles.



en.wikipedia.org...


This guy is an idiot.

China knows as well as anyone that the entire issue is non-impactfull to all major governments....and absolutely yes China has used this issue it intentionally to TACTICLLY slow down growth and production of Western Countries.Just like they TACTICLLY and covertly attacked the birthrate....with chemicals and financial support for queer groups.....wake up people...we are far far from Happy_Land where everyone gets along as equals.....there may be no such place.



posted on Jun, 6 2019 @ 12:18 AM
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originally posted by: TEOTWAWKIAIFF
GAOTU-given brain


Shot in the dark here: God And Or The Universe?



posted on Jun, 6 2019 @ 05:31 AM
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a reply to: Peeple


They go in different directions but we are basically all on board when it's about making places cleaner.

That's the problem. We all want to make places cleaner. No one is advocating for pollution. Carbon dioxide is not pollution. Sulfur dioxide is pollution; carbon monoxide is pollution. Nitrates are pollution. About anything with heavy metals in it is pollution.

We just can't concentrate on the actual pollutants while everyone is going nuts screaming about carbon dioxide. While you're trying to keep the global temperature stable (which has shown to be stable already for hundreds of millions of years), you're ignoring actual toxins being pumped into the atmosphere and water every day. The temperature is fine; it's been much warmer in the past and never caused a problem. The carbon dioxide level is fine; it's been much higher in the past and never caused a problem. The toxicity of the rainwater is not fine... it's killing plants due to the sulfuric acid content. The ocean acidification is not fine; that same sulfuric acid content is eroding coral reefs and killing aquatic wildlife. Fukushima is not fine; it's still reacting below Japan and releasing massive amounts of radiation into the Pacific Ocean.

There's a literal island of floating plastic in the Pacific as well. There are landfills dotting the planet where we just dump whatever and forget about it. There are acres and acres of rain forest, not even completely catalogued yet, being cut down every day, destroying who knows how many species of unknown flora and fauna. There are pharmaceuticals, sometimes deadly pharmaceuticals, in the water you drink. And you're worried about carbon dioxide.

Maybe it's just easier to complain than to actually research and do something?

As to this so-called scientist: you're describing a pop-sci star, like our Bill Nye or Carl Sagan, or Neil DeGrasse Tyson. They do a service, yes, by trying to educate the public. But they are not acting in the role of an actual scientist when they do that. Bill Nye, for example, used to do a good job, then he went into the political-science consortium and began to push an agenda. That's not science. Carl Sagan, rest in peace, did a wonderful job of explaining to generations the wonders of the universe, and Neil DeGrasse Tyson is doing a great job taking over from him. But they realize that the public simply cannot understand everything they do, and the public really doesn't want to or need to.

He needs to stay out of the agendas and simply explain science if that's what he wants to do with his life. Science is not about telling others how to live or organizing resistance to things... it's about understanding how and why things happen like they do, and it changes constantly as we learn more.

TheRedneck



posted on Jun, 6 2019 @ 05:39 AM
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a reply to: TheRedneck

I can agree with that. Let's start with what we know for sure. Like the plastic in the seas. And smog...



posted on Jun, 6 2019 @ 06:49 AM
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a reply to: oloufo

Never heard of him but then you said he like neil Tyson so big whoop neither one of them a Carl sagan or stephen hawking so why again should I give a Damn?







 
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