Trans Activism - Trans Violence - Self-ID - A Resource Thread

originally posted by: KansasGirl
a reply to: Boadicea

The "self-ID" thing. Is this a law in places...

In some places, yes. It varies by city, county, state, school district, etc. At the federal level, Trump rescinded Obama's directive, so it is no longer a federal policy. But The Equality Act introduced in this session of the House (and passed) would make it the law of the land if passed.

...or is it just a societal thing we are expected to agree to?

Again, in some places, yes. Especially in businesses where they can make their own rules for all practical purposes. In some places, there is no official reg or law, but simply an understanding -- and a refusal to prosecute.

In how many places (I'm thinking USA in particular but interested in other places as well) is this actually either accepted and expected?

I really can't say. It's such a hodge-podge at this point, if anyone is keeping track, I haven't seen it.

This has been quite an issue in Britain and Scotland, as they re-consider their gender policies. Although England, for example, has very specific legal sex exemptions, authorities and officials have been claiming and acting as though those sex protections are gender identity protections. Consultations have been conducted without even notifying women's advocacy groups, and/or refusing to hear/consider their concerns and complaints. One consultation just happened to "disqualify" about half of the responses as invalid, apparently those who distinguished between "sex" and "gender" in single-sex spaces.

Women and Girls Scotland just published a report on a survey they conducted -- Female Only Provision: A Women and Girls in Scotland Report -- which revealed that women and girls are already self-excluding themselves from single-sex spaces that include men identifying as "women."

I'm just thinkjng let's say I go into the ladies' room at the coffee shop here where I live and there is a dude in there. Are you saying that the self-ID thing makes it so I'm in trouble if I question why he's in the ladies' room? Or that authorities wouldnt be compelled to do anything about it?

Pretty much, yes.

It seems the model many places is that if a customer or patron complains, then the one complaining is basically offered or told to find other accommodations. I have seen some talk that people challenging anyone for gender should be prosecuted for harassment and hate crimes, but I think it's just talk... for now.

At the worst, there is a case in Georgia of a female kindergartener who was sexually assaulted by an older transgender student in the bathroom... The mother reported it to the school... The school blamed the mother (!!!) and reported her to the children's protective services agency.

Thanks for the very info-heavy thread! Much to look into. Thanks much!

You're welcome!

a reply to: Boadicea

Yea, I get where you're going with this.

Sadly for women and girls, that ship has already sailed. About all they can do now is to develop tactics to deal with the problem, like only going to public restrooms in "groups" for protective measures.

Things are going to get very hinky, very quickly.

originally posted by: TonyS
a reply to: Boadicea

About all they can do now is to develop tactics to deal with the problem, like only going to public restrooms in "groups" for protective measures.

Yes, I think you're right, and many are already adapting and adopting ways to keep themselves safe. But it won't be enough. Those with evil intent will still find a way.

I worry just how bad it will get, before we finally move past this insanity.

a reply to: Boadicea

Is there really any moving past this insanity? I certainly don't see it.

I'd think, going forward, its going to lead to huge dislocations. In some respects, it already has! Here in Texas a huge number of young women in middle and High Schools REFUSE to step foot in the "Ladies" locker room. This thing is going to going to cause a lot of "dropping out" of a lot of activities and behaviors that had previously been thought safe. Its a mess of inordinate size and breadth.

originally posted by: TonyS
a reply to: Boadicea

Is there really any moving past this insanity? I certainly don't see it.

Yes, there's always hope! In fact, I would say it's already imploding on itself. Mostly because it has been taken way too far. That's what "Peak Trans" stories are all about. So many people who were allies, who wanted to be allies, who tried to be allies. But at some point, they couldn't ignore the insanity, the abuse, the narcissism... something or someone crossed that proverbial line.

The current Trans Activism caters to and/or feeds those most inclined to manipulate and exploit and abuse others for their own perceived benefit -- such as the narcissistic and those with a fetish, but also teenagers... anyone who's raised teens know how manipulative and self-centered they can be!

So I expect it will be taken to the breaking point before it gets better. But maybe that's what it takes. Maybe we have to see and understand just how wrong this ideological thinking is first, and then we can actually learn and grow and do better. Maybe folks can actually just be their own awesome selves and not even feel like they have to play a gender role nor steal someone else's identity...

I know... crazy talk, right?

a reply to: Boadicea

No its not crazy talk. I hope you're right, but...........have you seen the articles coming out of the UK? I read one by a "school nurse" who reported that children who self-report as being the gender opposite that of their "parts" are immediately whisked away to their National Health Service for commencement of treatments to arrest their natural development and to begin the process of gender reassignment and all without their parents consent which isn't needed.

And if the parents resist, its child abuse.

There's going to have to be a WHOLE LOT of rethinking going on. Otherwise, it looks to me like "that ship has sailed".

From New Zealand, just published this morning:

These Are Not Our Crimes

Speak Up For Women are calling for dishonest reporting of crimes to stop. It has become common place to see crimes committed by trans-identifying males (transwomen) reported as women’s crimes and this, say the group, is an insult to women who commit only a fraction of violent crimes in reality.

Today, The Otago Daily Times ran a story with the headline “Woman jailed after Timaru tattoo parlour ice axe attack”. However, the perpetrator of the violent axe attack Rose Beaumont is a trans-identifying male.

Again, sadly, this is not an isolated incident:

The Timaru ice-axe attacker is not the first trans-identifying male to be convicted of an axe crime in Australasia. Earlier this year Evie Amati was jailed for 4 and ½ years for attacking strangers in a convenience store in Sydney with an axe. Amati identifies as a woman also.

This part is absolutely chilling to anyone with a conscience:

In fact, there seems to be some kind of significance to the choice of weapon. The Degenderettes, an international “genderqueer group”, are infamous for their posed images of transwomen with axes usually accompanied by blood and anti-women messaging.

Too many trans "women" threaten women with violence of all kinds with absolutely no repercussions. They themselves have told us loud and proud that we are not safe with them. I believe them.

a reply to: TonyS

I have seen that... and it's pretty darn scary.

One of the biggest reasons for my optimism is that for too long, policy changes and rules and regs were being written and re-written under cover of darkness, and people were simply not aware of what all was happening. Those who were aware and tried to write about it or talk about it were harassed, banned, de-platformed, de-funded, fired, and otherwise silenced. It's taken time and much energy and effort by lots of folks -- mostly women -- to force the conversation. And they're still fighting. And good for them!

Sunshine is the best disinfectant!!!

originally posted by: TonyS
a reply to: Boadicea

No its not crazy talk. I hope you're right, but...........have you seen the articles coming out of the UK? I read one by a "school nurse" who reported that children who self-report as being the gender opposite that of their "parts" are immediately whisked away to their National Health Service for commencement of treatments to arrest their natural development and to begin the process of gender reassignment and all without their parents consent which isn't needed.

And if the parents resist, its child abuse.

LOLWUT? We haven't had school nurses in decades...

a reply to: Whodathunkdatcheese

Really? We still have school nurses... where are you?

I can't imagine not having a school nurse. Who else would take care of sick and injured kids and all that stuff? I would think not having a nurse would open schools up to all kinds of liability issues...

Last night a woman was attacked by a MAN identifying as a "woman" after speaking at a forum on women's rights and protections under the law. The MAN identifying as a "woman" followed her to the airport where HE physically attacked her. Then HE bragged about it on Facebook before figuring out how stupid that was and set HIS page to private... but not before screenshots were taken.

I took part in a really brilliant event tonight at Edinburgh University, speaking about women’s sex-based rights. I was physically attacked as I left the event at the airport. This kind of intimidation has to stop. The person that attacked me was a man.

Julie Bindel Twitter

There is a picture of the MAN who attacked her at the link, along with his Facebook posts, and other threats of violence towards "TERFs".

Lost my shot[sic] at Julie Bindel. She filmed me. I'm safe.

HE's safe... isn't that special???
If this crime is reported and recorded, no doubt this MAN will self-ID as "woman," and it will be reported and recorded as such. I really hope I'm proven wrong about this, but that's the SOP right now.

This is what we're up against.

My apologies and a correction: The attack happened at the University venue... not the airport.

Article from The Scotsman about what happened:

Julie Bindel, the keynote speaker at an Edinburgh University event which discussed the future of women's sex-based rights, said she was verbally abused, "lunged at" and almost "punched in the face", by a transwoman as she left the building.

"There had been a protest outside earlier, but that had gone so he was obviously waiting for me.

"He was shouting and ranting and raving, 'you're a f***** c***, you're a f****** bitch, a f****** Terf" and the rest of it. We were trying to walk to the cab to take us to the airport, and then he just lunged at me and almost punched me in the face, but a security guard pulled him away.

"I got my phone out to film him to get evidence and he went for me again. It took three security guys at the stage to deal with him.

Fem inist speaker Julie Bindel 'attacked by transgender person' at Edinburgh University after talk

The MAN who attacked Bindel has posted this statement:

Today Brennan, a film critic who has written for The Skinny magazine and the British Film Institute, said that if the press wanted "to hear my side of the story they can offer me the chance to write a full opinion piece in my own words. Otherwise, I will not be discussing it personally with anyone I do not know."

Do note this MAN has a history of promoting violence against women:

Brennan has previously tweeted in support of violence against women who believe that changing the Gender Recognition Act to allow people to self-identify as any gender, rather than needing a medical diagnosis, would endanger women's rights to safety, privacy and dignity by doing away with single-sex spaces. One tweet read: "Any trans allies at #PrideLondon right now need to step the f**kup and take out the terf trash. Get in their faces. Make them afraid. Debate never works so f**k them up"

I hope Ms. Bindel's video will be posted soon and show us exactly what happened.

In the meantime, this MAN is getting some backlash from his own community, and his attack is peak transing even more people...

a reply to: 10uoutlaw

Acceptance of "transsexualism" by natural women further proves to us that human women are indeed still stupid. They should be stripped of the right to vote on account of being so stupid.

Haven't heard a single protest from natural born females regarding the Trans Agenda...

a reply to: trustmeimdoctor

You know women who are concerned? Then WHY do we not hear anything from them?!

I don't hear them in the media, don't see them on the news. If they exist, then they are certainly NOT being vocal!

Further proof that human women are indeed still stupid.

EDIT: There are now men competing in women's sporting events and winning. Why are natural born women not being vocal and protesting this outrage? Because they are stupid, that's why.

a reply to: AnakinWayneII

Acceptance of "transsexualism" by natural women further proves to us that human women are indeed still stupid. They should be stripped of the right to vote on account of being so stupid.

Haven't heard a single protest from natural born females regarding the Trans Agenda... Haven't heard a single protest from natural born females regarding the Trans Agenda...

Oh dear.... oh my... oh CRAP!!! DID YOU READ THE OP???

I am a natural born woman and I am and have been protesting for years. Right here. Right now. Are YOU too stupid to even know that you are posting on an OP which is doing EXACTLY what you claim no one is doing???

So are you freaking deaf then??? Living under a rock? Too stupid to step out of your bubble? Just a pitiable misogynist gaslighter??? Or maybe you're just mistaking the women in your sissy hypno porn for REAL women???

Women are yelling from the rooftops, and being harassed, insulted, de-platformed, fired, and physically attacked for protesting the Trans Agenda. They're called "gender critical" in polite company, and "TERFs" by the Trans Taliban.

Google is your friend. Is your Google broken? Or did you fail Goggle 101? Are YOU that stupid???

a reply to: Boadicea

Okay.

Then that means that they do not have a *very* loud voice in the media.

Such as when that black male athlete won his event in College athletics and beat all the women.

All I am saying is that I have not seen *enough* large-scale protests comparable, for example, to BLM protests...

a reply to: AnakinWayneII

All I am saying is that I have not seen *enough* large-scale protests comparable, for example, to BLM protests...

That's not what you were saying, but thank you for moderating your position.

Now, consider why that is. Is it because women are too stupid to speak up? Or is it because their voices are being silenced?

Who and what is the REAL problem here???