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originally posted by: Justoneman
originally posted by: RAY1990
a reply to: Justoneman
Ever heard of subduction?
The simple explanation is when tectonic plates push against each other the plate that is more dense is pushed downward into the earth/mantle and the other is push upwards. It's how mountain ridges are made.
I mean, it might be all nonsense but the mining industry seems to do alright. It's all about the relationship with the crust and the mantle and is a lot more complex than the simple explanation I gave.
This is a very dramatic change. I wonder jokingly, were you there for the subduction event? NO, you couldn't have been! It had to be an action Earth does without the influence of MAN. Man is not the reason the Earth changes dramatically. Sure we do make a scratch or two on the surface, but no more.
originally posted by: richapau
a reply to: Dfairlite
This is a garbage post. OP doesn't know what he's talking about. Global scientific consensus is climate change is happening and then you have this clown OP.
How many times in the last 30 years have you stood on a frozen lake?
originally posted by: Dfairlite
A senior U.N. environmental official says entire nations could be wiped off the face of the Earth by rising sea levels if the global warming trend is not reversed by the year 2000.
Of course this was the prediction in 1989, by the same body that is warning us today that we have only 10 years to act. What really happened during the warning period? We saw a small increase in temperatures and basically zero rising sea levels. Polar ice was melting a little but has regained most of that in the following 20 years. However, don't forget, 2000 was supposed to be the beginning of the end, not the end of the warming.
These people are stupid and they play on your being uninformed to try to get you to give up your freedom.
Noel J. Brown? Not too shabby for a stupid person with the age of 82. How is that guy not literally improving peoples freedom with test-driving (?) lifts for old people like you?
Climate Change Threatens Societal Collapse Within Decades: Report
Right back at ya, I like the argumentum ad hominem at play there. Latin goes down like hemp-oil, doesn't it?
Yeah I know it was a loaded question. Since the early 2000's things have changed drastically here in the north. In comparison to the 80's and 90's the weather is a lot different. We hardly get any snow in the winter like we use to. In the winter we get a lot of warm spells now. We had 2 years in a row the lakes never froze. Lakes here use to freeze like clock work. I spend all of my free time in the woods and on the water. I am outdoors all the time. I'm about as hardcore as it gets. I remember dates from as far back as the 80's when the lakes froze. Something is going on with the weather patterns here. I doubt that it is just a cycle. I've seen time lapsed satellite footage of the amount of CO2 China is spewing into the atmosphere. The amazon forest are the lungs of the earth. It's being chopped down at an underrepresented rate. 7 billion people and counting on this planet and you can't tell me we're not having an impact on the climate and weather currents.
originally posted by: Dfairlite
a reply to: wantsome
0, same as the 20 years before that. But the Ice fishing has been great I hear, from those who do it. I would imagine they've been standing on the frozen lake quite often.
ETA: Actually I forgot, I did stand on a frozen lake in the early 2k's. So once. Which is more than the number of times I did it in the years prior to that.
but in comparison to others or mutli national corporations , then its a drop in the bucket
originally posted by: face23785
originally posted by: Barcs
Wow, what a load of nonsense. Where do we start?
Again, the person said it COULD happen, not that it definitely would happen by that exact time.
Scientists running around saying what COULD happen--and then being wrong about it--is a big deal. We see this in weather and geology. Weathermen issues sweeping warnings for wide areas about tornadoes and volcanologists warn of impending eruptions, then nothing happens and they lose credibility.
There are reasons for that, because the prediction methods are an inexact science and they don't do a good enough job of explaining it to the public, but the end result is the same. They lose credibility.
No, the entire problem is people denying the science. There is TONS of hard science that PROVES CO2 and other greenhouse gases raise global temperature and that humans put tons of that into the air on a daily basis. That is NOT up for debate.
LMAO @ claiming no evidence and pretending we don't know that humans contribute to that. They clearly do.
You very cleverly made a slight change to what I said. I never said greenhouse gases don't warm global temps or that we aren't releasing CO2. THAT is a major problem in this discussion is you have to make things up. Of course greenhouse gases increase temps and humans release CO2. But there's no data on how much of the temperature changes are related to human activity.
All you can say is "oh we release CO2 so we must be causing SOME of it." As another poster already pointed out, that's a meaningless statement. When I breathe I release CO2. The important piece of data is how much I'm releasing, and how much that contributes to climate change. They haven't been able to quantify that. That's a crucial question. You clearly either don't understand this subject or you're willfully pushing misinformation. They know the climate is changing. How much man is responsible for and whether we can do anything about it is unknown.
What does Noel J. Brown have to do with anything?
Then you go on to link a climate alarmist article.
Your response to my calling you uninformed for believing the alarmists 30 years ago is to trust them today? And you think you've proved some huge point? This really is a clown world.