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originally posted by: Dfairlite
a reply to: face23785
It really lays waste to the entire premise of CO2/warming being catastrophic regardless of who or what causes it.
NASA says that CO2 is a coolant not a warming gas. One part of NASA is now in conflict with its climatologists after new NASA measurements prove that carbon dioxide acts as a coolant in Earth’s atmosphere. NASA’s Langley Research Center has collated data proving that “greenhouse gases” actually block up to 95 percent of harmful solar rays from reaching our planet, thus reducing the heating impact of the sun. Carbon dioxide (CO2) and nitric oxide (NO) are two substances playing a key role in the energy balance of air above our planet’s surface tending to cool not heat.
originally posted by: Puppylove
a reply to: Grenade
It's absolutely sick that in the modern age with modern technology and resources we still use the threat of starvation, homelessness and sickness as the primary motivator to get people to work.
So you have no idea? It's probably the guy from your OP.
...said the guy posting another thread for his flock of anti-climate alarmists.
Are you going to look into the facts now, coming up with a detailed reply?
And I'm the clown who knows what an ad hominem fallacy looks like.
Are you not entertained
o sick of the, "never meant to be a career" claim bull#.
originally posted by: Puppylove
a reply to: Grenade
We don't need equality of outcome, risk and success should be rewarded. All we need is for where one starts to be upgraded from abject poverty so that any work can be a reward rather than simply removing base suffering.
It's absolutely sick that in the modern age with modern technology and resources we still use the threat of starvation, homelessness and sickness as the primary motivator to get people to work.
Actually no, it's worse than that, we actually do to some degree provide food and medical care, and shelter to the non working, we just also make the base jobs less enticing than not working, causing people on hard times to feel trapped and not try to better themselves.
Our welfare system is a trap because jobs refuse to treat their lowest paid employee as anything other than chattel, and our government refuses to help anyone as soon as their making money anywhere close to what welfare benefits supplied making that work worthless unless a person works absurd hours and multiple jobs just to begin to do a little better than welfare was providing.
People need to be able to stop scrambling just to get their head above water so that they can begin to benefit in an actually positive rewarding way. Work needs to become a rewarding experience that people want to do because they are rewarded for it, and not simply to avoid some kind of hardship or suffering.
Most factory jobs barely allow a person to live any better than McDonald's these days.
Where are all these mid level jobs you're talking about that anyone can do?
Why are so many people with degrees stuck working # jobs if there are so many great jobs out there.
Open your eyes, the middle class is almost nonexistent now.
originally posted by: StrangeQuark96
Global Warming is nothing more than a great big CON to trick people into believing that there are valid reasons for us to pay more fines, more tax money and whatever else they can possibly steal from you.
If they wanted to, say fix the planet ( Once again I bring it up), they would have to enforce a law or create an PAndemic to reduce the current population but this will never ever happen because it will damage the economy.
You should stop using plastic! Use public transport! do this! do that! reduce your carbon footprint!
How about stop breeding?
I've worked at a few concrete plants myself... What they don't tell you or want you to know is that for every tonne of cement produced there is over just over one tonne equivalent of CO2 released. a lot more than your car! and we use cement for more than just houses.
A lot of good the Paris agreement is going to do when houses are continuously being built for the never-ending populace.
a CON.
originally posted by: Peeple
a reply to: Lumenari
Notice something?
source
originally posted by: bloodymarvelous
originally posted by: StrangeQuark96
Global Warming is nothing more than a great big CON to trick people into believing that there are valid reasons for us to pay more fines, more tax money and whatever else they can possibly steal from you.
I'm not going to disagree that the people pushing the movement are mostly using it as a con, but moving your opinion all the way to the extreme of assuming 100% of all the science behind the issue is 0% informative. All a con.
That's pretty extremist.
Truth is usually more moderate than that.
If they wanted to, say fix the planet ( Once again I bring it up), they would have to enforce a law or create an PAndemic to reduce the current population but this will never ever happen because it will damage the economy.
You should stop using plastic! Use public transport! do this! do that! reduce your carbon footprint!
How about stop breeding?
I've worked at a few concrete plants myself... What they don't tell you or want you to know is that for every tonne of cement produced there is over just over one tonne equivalent of CO2 released. a lot more than your car! and we use cement for more than just houses.
A lot of good the Paris agreement is going to do when houses are continuously being built for the never-ending populace.
a CON.
And that's the part that's the con.
Honduras went from 6.5 million to 9.1 million from the year 2000 to the year 2019. There is no amount of "mass transit" that is going to mitigate the footprint of a population growth that large.
It ends up in a caravan, marching up North to demand that a nation who's people are making wiser decisions to bail them out (with no intention of making better choices later on, either. Just demanding a free bailout.)
Point is, the con is on both ends.
1) - Selling us a fake solution.
2) - Agitating the condition that has caused the problem, so it keeps getting worse.
The reason is clear: the worse the situation gets, the easier it is to sell a fake remedy to a desperate public.
Kind of like if a montebank were selling you a cure for arthritis, and they make sure to lace the "cure" with a bunch of salt, and have you drink it down with alcohol. Your pain gets worse, and you want more cure.
www.arthritis.org... 5whLxLzCDZxMElLZRPVZ04WuaTwE0le7ywDN9hd5JirBNavQZcxRoC540QAvD_BwE