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Therefore the person who actually gets pregnant gets to decide what she does with her body, and a fetus is a part of her body, considering it's living off it.
Hmmm... So I guess you are alright with killing breast feeding babies too?
originally posted by: dawnstar
Umm. That's funny. I had my three boys in the 80a and my first initial visit was a planned parenthood clinic each time. They pushed vitamins on me And iron even more since my iron level was rather low for the second and third but they didn't push abortion on me. Maybe it has to do with geographical locations. Who knows.
So what in my post triggered you to reply as if I'm trying to stop a woman's choice? My post suggested that abortions is big profit for clinics and so they push that as the first and best choice.
States push them because the 1000 bucks is cheaper than state subsistence support. In the end you need to realize it is not always for the best interest of the woman as much as the most profit.
Actually 10s of millions are rushing to get abortions every year with an estimated 40 to 50 million world wide per year. The states is about 900k.
Your qualification, for why she is arbiter for human life, is that her body is being used to sustain it. Therefore it is part of her. Well, babies are breastfed until four to six months. So they're still part of her body (using your logic).
A fetus is simply a stage of human life and development. We don't really even have a conscience until most of the way through adolescence (one of the final stages of human development).
originally posted by: IkNOwSTuff
originally posted by: SilentSaturn
I don't doubt that there is a hidden black market for fetus', but that doesn't discount the idea that woman should beable to choose and not have their decisions be decided by men.
Women should be as appalled (if not more so) by this as men.
Whole industries revolve around aborting female babies.
I’m 100% pro choice but the celebration, jubilation and utter self righteous smugness exhibited by pro abortionists is sickening.
I differentiated pro choice and pro abortion as pro choicers don’t revel in the fact that an abortion is happening, it’s a necessary evil not something to party about
They are not dependent on the body of the woman who produced them, to survive. Which makes them an autonomous human being. Which means it's illegal and immoral to do to that baby what you just asked me of 2 questions ago.
originally posted by: LordAhriman
Here's a more accurate chart:
originally posted by: Ligyron
You honestly believe women, or at least the majority of pregnant women who go into a clinic are first-hand, instantly asked if they want to have an abortion? Funny how I've gone to many clinics with my pregnant sisters when their husbands couldn't be there and not once have I ever had a dude come up to one of my sisters and go,''OHHH HEYYY can I interest you in an abortion? They're on promotion this week! 2 for 1''
Jesus Christ, and even if abortions are highly profitable for clinics what about it? Pop music and many millions of horny teenagers made Justin Bieber 600 millions-rich. Are we going to ban out pop music because of it?
No. Western nations have negative childbirth ratios. In every Euro Country I've been to for the past 10 years has had it's govts. push a ''get pregnant as fast as possible and make as many babies as you can'' agenda. Trying to motivate young women and men to get together, marry, and have babies, in any way they can. The same is true in America, there's probably tons of books and religious leaders and even senators who want to push women into having babies.
3.5 billion women in the world. Tens of millions getting abortions every year? That's an insignificant number. Doesn't matter. Think of how many people there are in the world. What exactly is the need for tens of millions more being born every year? Heck, India alone had a bad year(I think it was in 2014) and they still produced 18 million babies.
Well, babies are breastfed until four to six months. So they're still part of her body (using your logic).