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Former military intelligence official: US Govt has alien technology.

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posted on Jun, 2 2019 @ 05:14 PM
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a reply to: Jesushere


He just said Yes to question. You only break an NDA if you reveal the context.


Not sure about everyone's NDAs, but one of mine is worded "Shall neither confirm nor deny".

Answering "Yes" is confirming.

So to me, if he actually knew anything about it he would now be spending the rest of his natural life in Leavenworth.

So he doesn't know anything.





posted on Jun, 2 2019 @ 05:16 PM
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originally posted by: eManym
....As for the TTSA videos, it still question their authenticity. I haven't read anywhere that the US government has verified their accuracy. The only entities that state the videos are real are the TTSA and media hype.


Other specialists in 'leaked' government documents share your caution.

John Greenewald: “…we have no proof of any release, let alone what is being touted is even the same evidence connected to this DD Form 1910. If we see a blatant disregard for the truth by Mr. Elizondo on display with this DD Form 1910, and we see the same disregard for the truth by To The Stars Academy as they have touted documents proving a public release – how can we believe everything or anything else from the same sources? “
www.theblackvault.com... lizondo-and-ttsa/



posted on Jun, 2 2019 @ 05:24 PM
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originally posted by: SilentSaturn

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
a reply to: Jesushere

Except he just publicly talked about it, so I don't believe him.


The only thing I can think of is that the military has given the okay to some members to say UFOs are real but not give out other real information. This is either due to the government and military wanting to SLOWLY disclose some UFO information, or a PSY-OP to confuse the public on what is the truth in light of increased interest in UFOs.

The slight increase in military or government discussions on UFOs leads me to believe there is an agenda at foot.

There is of course the other possibility that it's all BS and this guy has been watching and reading too many UFO stuff. I disbelieve that. It's not only UFOs that are telling us there is more to this 3-D reality. '___', mushrooms, meditation, astral projection, new findings in livable planets, ect.. ect.. I also discount the theory that the multitude of meditators and psychedelic takers are just experiencing hallucinations. Especially consider that so many people experience the same thing.




If they are here and the US has alien technology, then it's very likely a two-way communication is happening even at a low level. Does not mean Aliens are working out at Area 51, but I find hard to believe the Aliens would not communicate with the people who have access to their technology. I feel the visitors are going to reveal themselves when we are ready. Right now I think the US government is doing this in a way they feel comfortable with at their own pace. I suspect Elizondo is one of their agents for this process. Elizonda probably not revealing everything, but that does not mean he's lying. The world public has to be acclimatised to the UFO presence in our sky.

He was an intelligence guy working in the Pentagon. He, not some guy who just read UFO books. He spoke to the people who know. Elizonda believes they are not human-made aircraft, he just has to be rational on TV and not appear to be loony



posted on Jun, 2 2019 @ 05:36 PM
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originally posted by: Lumenari
a reply to: Jesushere


He just said Yes to question. You only break an NDA if you reveal the context.


Not sure about everyone's NDAs, but one of mine is worded "Shall neither confirm nor deny".

Answering "Yes" is confirming.

So to me, if he actually knew anything about it he would now be spending the rest of his natural life in Leavenworth.

So he doesn't know anything.



The Navy updated its guidelines for pilots who report UFOS. Tom Delonge group helped with that. To get the Navy to agree means Elizonda has some powerful friends who are trying to remove the stigma around the reporting of UAPs in the sky. Elizonda is not a fraud.

Yes- does not break his NDA. If he said there Alien technology in a bunker in a specific place this would break his NDA.


edit on 2-6-2019 by Jesushere because: (no reason given)



posted on Jun, 2 2019 @ 05:38 PM
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originally posted by: Jesushere

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
a reply to: Jesushere

Except he just publicly talked about it, so I don't believe him.



There no sign yet that is program was fake. The pilots who are telling their stories seem genuine. And they felt comfortable to reveal their stories to Tom De Longe group.


Oh, they must be telling the truth then, because no one has ever seemed sincere who was actually lying.

And if you ask me, that they feel comfortable telling their "stories" to TTSA is a glowing, seething, writhing, neon red flag. TTSA, presenters of Mylar balloons as UFO's...TTSA, harborers of Tom Delonge, peddler of incredibly fake and many times over debunked Youtube videos of triangle UFO's...TTSA, media and ENTERTAINMENT company peddling itself as a UFO research organization...TTSA, the entertainment company decidedly saturated and crawling with life-long government spooks and experimenters who have been proven to have perpetrated not one but several hoaxes into the UFO community over decades...etc., etc., etc. If someone with actual valid and truthful information about the subject wanted to get their information out to the public, they would NOT go to an entertainment company whose reputation has been widely and legitimately questioned. Unless they are stupid, and I don't think military pilots are stupid.



posted on Jun, 2 2019 @ 05:42 PM
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a reply to: Jesushere

In my belief, I think the aliens (at the lower-technological and/or dimensional level) are manipulating us for their own agendas and desires. I think there is a very strong possibility that the military is indeed contact with aliens but they aliens are 10 steps ahead.

There has been depictions of ETs in the past and I think they have been aware of our presence for a long time. I could go further into this but I don't want to derail the subject.

In either case, the military always has 10x more knowledge that it is letting on.



posted on Jun, 2 2019 @ 05:44 PM
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originally posted by: Jesushere

originally posted by: Lumenari
a reply to: Jesushere


He just said Yes to question. You only break an NDA if you reveal the context.


Not sure about everyone's NDAs, but one of mine is worded "Shall neither confirm nor deny".

Answering "Yes" is confirming.

So to me, if he actually knew anything about it he would now be spending the rest of his natural life in Leavenworth.

So he doesn't know anything.



The Navy updated its guidelines for pilots who report UFOS. Tom Delonge group helped with that. To get the Navy to agree means Elizonda has some powerful friends who are trying to remove the stigma around the reporting of UAPs in the sky. Elizonda is not a fraud.

Yes- does not break his NDA. If he said there Alien technology in a bunker in a specific place this would break his NDA.



The NDA I was talking about of mine that pertains to the topic was from 1989.

So thank you for that information.




posted on Jun, 2 2019 @ 05:52 PM
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a reply to: fredrodgers1960

See, here we go with this again. WHY would you think that humans wouldn't be able to come up with VELCRO?! Fu_king Velcro, dude.



posted on Jun, 2 2019 @ 05:53 PM
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originally posted by: fredrodgers1960
If all of the sudden, a Abrams tank went into a wormhole and came back to earth 2000 years ago, how would the civilization that lived at the time react? How long would it take them to figure out what everything was?

Same thing here. The US has had alien tech for decades. But, did we understand what it really was? I read many years ago that this is where velcro originated, on the uniforms of aliens. That one would be pretty easy to replicate if so.

I personally think that the US has finally figured some of it out and is either now starting to use it, or is starting to learn how to fabricate some of it.

Figuring out an alien tech would be more along the lines of trying to come up to speed on the science behind it.

Fred..


Velcro (generically known as hook and loop fasteners) was based off of a natural phenomena. Certain seed pods have miniature hook shaped spikes on their surface. Those hooked spike evolved to attach to passing animal fur (which supplies the loop) to detach the seed pod from the plant. The animal then transports the pod elsewhere and it either is chewed off or scraped off some other way and deposited on the ground. It's the plant's naturally evolved method of spreading its seeds.

It wasn't until Georges de Mestral viewed it in a microscope to see why they stuck so well to his clothes that the minute hooks were seen.



The hook and loop fastener is very popular and has been around for decades. The story of how this useful material came to be begins in 1941 when a Swiss engineer named Georges de Mestral was walking through the woods in his native land.

It Started with An Observation
As de Mestral was trekking through the Jura mountains with his dog, he noticed small burrs were latching onto his clothes and his dog’s fur. While most people would simply brush them off and keep walking, de Mestral grew curious. He wondering why these burrs stuck to him while other plant life did not.
Upon further inspection, he discovered the small hooks of the burrs were attaching themselves to microscopic loops in the fabric of his pants. He immediately began wondering how he could put this simple method of attachment to use, and after 8 years of research developed the first ever iteration of what we now know as hook and loop material.

Source: History of the Hook and Loop Fastener

This is well documented, and no aliens involved, just the natural curious and dogged determination of one man to replicate what nature created.

Humans ARE creative and intelligent (well some of them). Not everything that is ground breaking requires external influence. Sheesh.



posted on Jun, 2 2019 @ 05:55 PM
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originally posted by: Lumenari
a reply to: Jesushere


He just said Yes to question. You only break an NDA if you reveal the context.


Not sure about everyone's NDAs, but one of mine is worded "Shall neither confirm nor deny".

Answering "Yes" is confirming.

So to me, if he actually knew anything about it he would now be spending the rest of his natural life in Leavenworth.

So he doesn't know anything.



Thank you. I thought the way he answered completely proves, to a thinking person, that he does not have an NDA in this subject.



posted on Jun, 2 2019 @ 05:58 PM
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originally posted by: Jesushere

originally posted by: Lumenari
a reply to: Jesushere


He just said Yes to question. You only break an NDA if you reveal the context.


Not sure about everyone's NDAs, but one of mine is worded "Shall neither confirm nor deny".

Answering "Yes" is confirming.

So to me, if he actually knew anything about it he would now be spending the rest of his natural life in Leavenworth.

So he doesn't know anything.



The Navy updated its guidelines for pilots who report UFOS. Tom Delonge group helped with that. To get the Navy to agree means Elizonda has some powerful friends who are trying to remove the stigma around the reporting of UAPs in the sky. Elizonda is not a fraud.

Yes- does not break his NDA. If he said there Alien technology in a bunker in a specific place this would break his NDA.



Have you read those updated guidelines?



posted on Jun, 2 2019 @ 06:01 PM
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originally posted by: KansasGirl

originally posted by: Jesushere

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
a reply to: Jesushere

Except he just publicly talked about it, so I don't believe him.



There no sign yet that is program was fake. The pilots who are telling their stories seem genuine. And they felt comfortable to reveal their stories to Tom De Longe group.


Oh, they must be telling the truth then, because no one has ever seemed sincere who was actually lying.

And if you ask me, that they feel comfortable telling their "stories" to TTSA is a glowing, seething, writhing, neon red flag. TTSA, presenters of Mylar balloons as UFO's...TTSA, harborers of Tom Delonge, peddler of incredibly fake and many times over debunked Youtube videos of triangle UFO's...TTSA, media and ENTERTAINMENT company peddling itself as a UFO research organization...TTSA, the entertainment company decidedly saturated and crawling with life-long government spooks and experimenters who have been proven to have perpetrated not one but several hoaxes into the UFO community over decades...etc., etc., etc. If someone with actual valid and truthful information about the subject wanted to get their information out to the public, they would NOT go to an entertainment company whose reputation has been widely and legitimately questioned. Unless they are stupid, and I don't think military pilots are stupid.


ATTIP existed before Tom De Longe. You can even track the money - where the money came from and how the UFO project got started. So those of you claiming it was not real are wrong. DOD spokesperson even confirmed for NYT times the program was real.

Sure its possible Tom De Longe is a useful idiot, but there no evidence Elizonda group are actively engaged in a disinformation campaign. So far they seem level headed about what the pilots experienced. What have they done so far made you think it is all far-fetched?

Sure Tom De Longe has his own theories about the phenomenon and they are wild. Tom De Longe never worked for the government, his just some guy who waas interested in the UFO phenomenon. It very possible Elizonda group used Tom De longe or decided to work with him to reveal some of the information about the UFO phenomenon to the public. The CIA and Navy disclosure or openness will be done in a calculated slow way. There was never going to be a Presidental announcement.
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posted on Jun, 2 2019 @ 06:15 PM
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originally posted by: Jesushere

originally posted by: KansasGirl

originally posted by: Jesushere

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
a reply to: Jesushere

Except he just publicly talked about it, so I don't believe him.



There no sign yet that is program was fake. The pilots who are telling their stories seem genuine. And they felt comfortable to reveal their stories to Tom De Longe group.


Oh, they must be telling the truth then, because no one has ever seemed sincere who was actually lying.

And if you ask me, that they feel comfortable telling their "stories" to TTSA is a glowing, seething, writhing, neon red flag. TTSA, presenters of Mylar balloons as UFO's...TTSA, harborers of Tom Delonge, peddler of incredibly fake and many times over debunked Youtube videos of triangle UFO's...TTSA, media and ENTERTAINMENT company peddling itself as a UFO research organization...TTSA, the entertainment company decidedly saturated and crawling with life-long government spooks and experimenters who have been proven to have perpetrated not one but several hoaxes into the UFO community over decades...etc., etc., etc. If someone with actual valid and truthful information about the subject wanted to get their information out to the public, they would NOT go to an entertainment company whose reputation has been widely and legitimately questioned. Unless they are stupid, and I don't think military pilots are stupid.


ATTIP existed before Tom De Longe. You can even track the money - where the money came from and how the UFO project got started. So those of you claiming it was not real are wrong. DOD spokesperson even confirmed for NYT times the program was real.

Sure its possible Tom De Longe is a useful idiot, but there no evidence Elizonda group are actively engaged in a disinformation campaign. So far they seem level headed about what the pilots experienced. What have they done so far made you think it is all far-fetched?

Sure Tom De Longe has his own theories about the phenomenon and they are wild. Tom De Longe never worked for the government, his just some guy who waas interested in the UFO phenomenon. It very possible Elizonda group used Tom De longe or decided to work with him to reveal some of the information about the UFO phenomenon to the public. The CIA and Navy disclosure or openness will be done in a calculated slow way. There was never going to be a Presidental announcement.


Did you even read my comment? I never said AATIP wasn't real, for one. But besides the useful idiot explanation for TDL, how do you counter the other things I mentioned? Those are only a FEW reasons to think twice about the legitimacy and motives of TTSA.

Have you read ANY of the threads on the subject here? I suggest reading a few threads by Mirageman, and the GUT. If you read through their information and don't come away questioning this whole thing, then you are willfully ignoring some very important and telling information.



posted on Jun, 2 2019 @ 06:17 PM
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originally posted by: KansasGirl

originally posted by: Jesushere

originally posted by: Lumenari
a reply to: Jesushere


He just said Yes to question. You only break an NDA if you reveal the context.


Not sure about everyone's NDAs, but one of mine is worded "Shall neither confirm nor deny".

Answering "Yes" is confirming.

So to me, if he actually knew anything about it he would now be spending the rest of his natural life in Leavenworth.

So he doesn't know anything.



The Navy updated its guidelines for pilots who report UFOS. Tom Delonge group helped with that. To get the Navy to agree means Elizonda has some powerful friends who are trying to remove the stigma around the reporting of UAPs in the sky. Elizonda is not a fraud.

Yes- does not break his NDA. If he said there Alien technology in a bunker in a specific place this would break his NDA.



Have you read those updated guidelines?


They updated their guidelines for pilots to reports UAPs. The Navy believes the phenomenon real so why don't you? You are not sceptical. You are expressing cynicism.

I find it hard to believe top gun pilots are just seeing balloons and birds and that all it is.



posted on Jun, 2 2019 @ 06:18 PM
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originally posted by: KansasGirl
This sentiment I don't understand. Why is it so hard to believe that humans could be solely responsible for the technology?

I think that's because most people don't have the slightest idea of how most things around them work and of their origin. The velcro example from a few posts after yours is a good example.

It's the old "I don't understand this, so it must be magic" syndrome.



posted on Jun, 2 2019 @ 06:20 PM
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originally posted by: KansasGirl

originally posted by: Jesushere

originally posted by: KansasGirl

originally posted by: Jesushere

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
a reply to: Jesushere

Except he just publicly talked about it, so I don't believe him.



There no sign yet that is program was fake. The pilots who are telling their stories seem genuine. And they felt comfortable to reveal their stories to Tom De Longe group.


Oh, they must be telling the truth then, because no one has ever seemed sincere who was actually lying.

And if you ask me, that they feel comfortable telling their "stories" to TTSA is a glowing, seething, writhing, neon red flag. TTSA, presenters of Mylar balloons as UFO's...TTSA, harborers of Tom Delonge, peddler of incredibly fake and many times over debunked Youtube videos of triangle UFO's...TTSA, media and ENTERTAINMENT company peddling itself as a UFO research organization...TTSA, the entertainment company decidedly saturated and crawling with life-long government spooks and experimenters who have been proven to have perpetrated not one but several hoaxes into the UFO community over decades...etc., etc., etc. If someone with actual valid and truthful information about the subject wanted to get their information out to the public, they would NOT go to an entertainment company whose reputation has been widely and legitimately questioned. Unless they are stupid, and I don't think military pilots are stupid.


ATTIP existed before Tom De Longe. You can even track the money - where the money came from and how the UFO project got started. So those of you claiming it was not real are wrong. DOD spokesperson even confirmed for NYT times the program was real.

Sure its possible Tom De Longe is a useful idiot, but there no evidence Elizonda group are actively engaged in a disinformation campaign. So far they seem level headed about what the pilots experienced. What have they done so far made you think it is all far-fetched?

Sure Tom De Longe has his own theories about the phenomenon and they are wild. Tom De Longe never worked for the government, his just some guy who waas interested in the UFO phenomenon. It very possible Elizonda group used Tom De longe or decided to work with him to reveal some of the information about the UFO phenomenon to the public. The CIA and Navy disclosure or openness will be done in a calculated slow way. There was never going to be a Presidental announcement.


Did you even read my comment? I never said AATIP wasn't real, for one. But besides the useful idiot explanation for TDL, how do you counter the other things I mentioned? Those are only a FEW reasons to think twice about the legitimacy and motives of TTSA.

Have you read ANY of the threads on the subject here? I suggest reading a few threads by Mirageman, and the GUT. If you read through their information and don't come away questioning this whole thing, then you are willfully ignoring some very important and telling information.


I don't care about past history. Find me evidence Elizonda is lying about his UFO work? Are the pilot's actors? I don't get it?



posted on Jun, 2 2019 @ 06:22 PM
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“Do you think the U.S. government has debris from a UFO in its possession right now?” asked Carlson.

“Unfortunately, Tucker, I really have to be careful of my NDA,” said Elizondo, cautiously. “I really can’t go into a lot more detail than that … But simply put, yes.

So, he was asked an yes/no question, and he starts by saying that he has to be careful in his answer, so he says only "yes". He wasn't asked about any detail, so why did he say he couldn't go into a "lot more detail"? That all sounds like deceit to me.



posted on Jun, 2 2019 @ 06:27 PM
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originally posted by: KansasGirl

originally posted by: danbuter
The way technology has exploded over the last 30 years makes me think at least some of it could have been found in a UFO, and carefully drip-fed to the public.


This sentiment I don't understand. Why is it so hard to believe that humans could be solely responsible for the technology? Why in the world do you (aimed at whomever in general believes this, and many do) think that aliens must be involved?


I'm pretty sure humans did invent all/most of it. Doesn't mean we didn't learn some of the craziest stuff from alien tech. There are incredibly smart people in the world, so it's actually very likely everything we have is native to our planet. Alien tech would just explain some of the stuff showing up so dang fast so rapidly in succession.



posted on Jun, 2 2019 @ 06:28 PM
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originally posted by: ArMaP

“Do you think the U.S. government has debris from a UFO in its possession right now?” asked Carlson.

“Unfortunately, Tucker, I really have to be careful of my NDA,” said Elizondo, cautiously. “I really can’t go into a lot more detail than that … But simply put, yes.

So, he was asked an yes/no question, and he starts by saying that he has to be careful in his answer, so he says only "yes". He wasn't asked about any detail, so why did he say he couldn't go into a "lot more detail"? That all sounds like deceit to me.


NDA is about the details. Yes answer does not tell us anything about the technology and how they got and where it is now.



posted on Jun, 2 2019 @ 06:28 PM
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Man didn't come up with Velco, a plant (nature) did. Man just copied the idea.



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