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White House wanted USS John S. McCain covered up during Trump’s Japan visit

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posted on May, 30 2019 @ 12:55 AM
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So in summary despite the claims of fake news:

The USN has yet to deny that the memo/story contained in the WSJ is fake simply that the stern was NOT covered when POTUS was there.

The USN has yet to address the issue nor deny they were asked by the White House to do so

The other thing I missed is that according to the article they could not move the ship out of the way because it is still being repaired from the collision that took place in August of 2017. Jebus that should be explained as well. 2 years for a frontline ship??????

If its obviously Fake news then why are Brietbart, the NY Post, and Fox quoting it without their usual denials?

The WSJ sides more conservative no? When did it become 'Fake News"




posted on May, 30 2019 @ 01:02 AM
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a reply to: FredT

When it's revealed that Senator John McCain was a traitor, murdered many sailors, and cavorted with terrorists who hate the United States, it will be obvious why President Trump had/has less than zero respect for the man.


(post by shooterbrody removed for a manners violation)

posted on May, 30 2019 @ 01:05 AM
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a reply to: FredT

So this is true?



posted on May, 30 2019 @ 01:11 AM
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a reply to: FredT

They couldn't start the repairs until the investigation was done, then they had to have the budget allocated, shipyard space, the required parts, etc. For the amount of damage suffered two years and counting isn't bad at all.

As for the controversy, this isn't the first time the White House played this game and it won't be the last. The most recent example, off the top of my head was the Obama visit to Alaska. They prettied up an F-22 as one of the backdrop aircraft, only to be told by the White House to remove it and make sure there weren't any in the pictures of him visiting the base.
edit on 5/30/2019 by Zaphod58 because: (no reason given)



posted on May, 30 2019 @ 02:18 AM
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originally posted by: M5xaz
a reply to: FredT

So what ?

Obama ordered Christ, JESUS CHRIST, to be covered up during your Oboner's visit to Georgetown in 2009.


Hmmm, well, one served our country in multiple ways and paid heavy prices for it.

And the other is a made up character crafted by men to control the masses and answer questions (simply and foolishly) that people were too misguided to figure out thousands of years ago.

Oh, and the 2nd one isn't supposed to have anything to do with our government, as per our Bill of Rights. That too.

And "Oboner"? Try harder.



posted on May, 30 2019 @ 03:41 AM
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a reply to: FredT

Really ?


Honestly is he the leader of the free world or a toddler



The official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss internal deliberations, said the president was not involved in the planning,

Another goes full TDS....

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posted on May, 30 2019 @ 05:47 AM
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We believe this story, why?



posted on May, 30 2019 @ 06:09 AM
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originally posted by: FredT
So in summary despite the claims of fake news:

The USN has yet to deny that the memo/story contained in the WSJ is fake simply that the stern was NOT covered when POTUS was there.

The USN has yet to address the issue nor deny they were asked by the White House to do so

The other thing I missed is that according to the article they could not move the ship out of the way because it is still being repaired from the collision that took place in August of 2017. Jebus that should be explained as well. 2 years for a frontline ship??????

If its obviously Fake news then why are Brietbart, the NY Post, and Fox quoting it without their usual denials?

The WSJ sides more conservative no? When did it become 'Fake News"
Ugj, it IS fake news.

It became fake news the moment it hit airwaves under the impression that this was all Trump.

It WORKED if evidence by the context of your OP.

However, despite your views on the POTUS, it doesn't change the fact that you didn't give this story time to mature, rather rail on the WH and POTUS.

It had a shelf life of 4 hrs as prime fake news.

Even the author who broke the story, Rebecca Ballhause, has a history of posting Anti Trump material. called out by Don Jr himself.

Even sailors who were stationed on the McCain are calling BS.

twitter.com...

Tarp pictured FRIDAY, was taken down by Sat and remain in normal config during POTUS visit." CDR Nate Christensen. Et al
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posted on May, 30 2019 @ 07:02 AM
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We have always been at war with Eurasia.



posted on May, 30 2019 @ 07:50 AM
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originally posted by: FredT

My father served int eh US Navy and I'm disgusted beyond belief


So, let's see if this works... Now that this has been conclusively proven to be complete BS, are you 'disgusted beyond belief' that:

- MSM would lie about something?

- MSM would besmirch the name and reputation of your President?

- So many lefties would star your OP in support of such claims which were so obviously nonsense?

Just curious...



posted on May, 30 2019 @ 08:18 AM
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posted on May, 30 2019 @ 08:23 AM
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originally posted by: MisterSpock

originally posted by: The GUT
a reply to: Bluntone22


Even MSNBC appeared to refute Ballhaus' claims, noting that the tarp was removed before the president arrived in Japan.

"A spokesperson for US Pacific Fleet said the picture of the tarp is from Friday and it was taken down on Saturday," MSNBC's Katy Tur tweeted. "'All ships remained in normal configuration during POTUS' visit,' CDR Nate Christensen said."


Reporter Claims Name Of USS John McCain Covered During Japan Trip. Then More Info Comes Out.


The misinformation is so deep and rampant these days. The only thing anyone has to go on is instincts and intellect, which the fake news media is well aware is in short supply these days. Thank god for the deluge of information at everyone's fingertips, it's just sad that so many get hit in the feels and run with the initial attempts at being manipulated, only to hold fast to their initial response in the face of actual proof.

Thank god for the stupidity of the average human, without that we would never have such a chance to be held back and manipulated.


We are minipulated on purpose. Division through duelity is by design in this matrix. Minipulating both sides into boxed perceptions and understandings. Just look ----- One side is desperate to impeach trump. The other side believes he is a savior (Qanon).



posted on May, 30 2019 @ 08:26 AM
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There are no bounds on the depths of pettiness that Donald Trump can succumb to.



posted on May, 30 2019 @ 08:47 AM
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So the USN, itself, has debunked this thread as Fake News.


Isn't that enough to send this thread to the HOAX bin?


I would hate to think that on ATS, different standards apply to threads posted by Super Moderators.



posted on May, 30 2019 @ 08:47 AM
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LMAO the party that cannot even stand a picture of George Washington or a statue of anyone from before 1950 is offended by this. Bunch of fake outrage over nothing.



posted on May, 30 2019 @ 08:54 AM
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originally posted by: IAMTAT
So the USN, itself, has debunked this thread as Fake News.


Isn't that enough to send this thread to the HOAX bin?


I would hate to think that on ATS, different standards apply to threads posted by Super Moderators.

too late
they already ran with it
retractions are no longer important



posted on May, 30 2019 @ 09:29 AM
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originally posted by: IAMTAT
So the USN, itself, has debunked this thread as Fake News.


Isn't that enough to send this thread to the HOAX bin?


I would hate to think that on ATS, different standards apply to threads posted by Super Moderators.
I say leave it.

It demostrates the WHO, WHAT and WHY this happens.

It encourages the audience to vet their information and whatever it is they consume on the internet.

It is a prime example of why we have to be careful about anything that is concerning "Politics" that there is a high chance the story will be twisted and misconstrued for public perception.

What more could you ask for when a perfect example is plopped right here in our forums for all to see.

I want to be as respectful as possible considering it is a Mod and thus will not overstep my lane.

That said, with all the info out now, I'm bowing out the thread.



posted on May, 30 2019 @ 09:49 AM
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originally posted by: Arnie123

originally posted by: IAMTAT
So the USN, itself, has debunked this thread as Fake News.


Isn't that enough to send this thread to the HOAX bin?


I would hate to think that on ATS, different standards apply to threads posted by Super Moderators.
I say leave it.

It demostrates the WHO, WHAT and WHY this happens.

It encourages the audience to vet their information and whatever it is they consume on the internet.

It is a prime example of why we have to be careful about anything that is concerning "Politics" that there is a high chance the story will be twisted and misconstrued for public perception.

What more could you ask for when a perfect example is plopped right here in our forums for all to see.

I want to be as respectful as possible considering it is a Mod and thus will not overstep my lane.

That said, with all the info out now, I'm bowing out the thread.


I understand your point about leaving this filth up as an example...but I still have to disagree.

These threads have a life long after you and I decide to abandon it as PROVEN Fake News.
The OP and it's Fake News-reinforcing comment become the body of any future Internet searches for those lazy individuals seeking to validate their own ignorance. They seldom dig into the thread for the debunking of the OP, itself.

Mods, even Super Mods, need to have their threads treated under the same standards which apply to us all.



posted on May, 30 2019 @ 09:59 AM
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originally posted by: FredT
So in summary despite the claims of fake news:



If its obviously Fake news then why are Brietbart, the NY Post, and Fox quoting it without their usual denials?

The WSJ sides more conservative no? When did it become 'Fake News"


This morning FOX (which you mention) just came out to declare this story Fake News.



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